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MAfia 88: Arkham City NANA-NANA-NANA-NANA-RETCON!!!

#861 User is offline   Korbas 

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:03 AM

View PostTelas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

Great find if true, Ampy. Let's see if the Batman does his thing, but if it's getting a few hours from deadline and it's not happening, I'll be voting Eloth.

It does make me wonder back to that Omtose-replying-to-himself thing where for a second it looked like him and Eloth were the same person - and someone else suggested (jokingly?) they could be Two-Face...


That was me.

We don't have an extra alt in this game, do we?

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:04 AM

View PostMeanas, on 06 June 2012 - 02:03 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

Great find if true, Ampy. Let's see if the Batman does his thing, but if it's getting a few hours from deadline and it's not happening, I'll be voting Eloth.

It does make me wonder back to that Omtose-replying-to-himself thing where for a second it looked like him and Eloth were the same person - and someone else suggested (jokingly?) they could be Two-Face...


That peaked my curiosity as well. Doesn't seem out of the question to have two alts playing two face


Not likely. 22 players signed up, with a name for each slot. It would be clever, but seems unlikely



Ah well, if the numbers match up, then I think we can throw that theory out the window.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:04 AM

So it seems that after the lack of night kill and lynch our most reliable info is the Ampelas find on Eloth. I feel like the only reason that BM wouldn't kill Eloth would be if Eloth is BM, or if Amp is BM and hes using the find info to muck shit up. Am I missing something or does this sound right?

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:05 AM

So, hypothetically if Eloth isn't Two-Face, who has the most to gain from the sudden shift in attention?

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:05 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

Great find if true, Ampy. Let's see if the Batman does his thing, but if it's getting a few hours from deadline and it's not happening, I'll be voting Eloth.

It does make me wonder back to that Omtose-replying-to-himself thing where for a second it looked like him and Eloth were the same person - and someone else suggested (jokingly?) they could be Two-Face...


That peaked my curiosity as well. Doesn't seem out of the question to have two alts playing two face



Only there are only 22 of us that signed up and 22 alts.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:06 AM

View PostTelas, on 06 June 2012 - 02:03 AM, said:

It's possible someone did try to kill Ampelas but he was healed - and that's why we didn't see any kills last night.


He could have been healed or guarded right? Or shit, maybe he has BP or something, the other stuff surprised me, so why not a BP?

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:07 AM

View PostD, on 06 June 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:

So, hypothetically if Eloth isn't Two-Face, who has the most to gain from the sudden shift in attention?


Is it even a shift in attention? I feel like he had a good bit of attention to begin with.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:07 AM

I thought at first we should lynch Ampelas... he could be recruited now, or he could/will be in the future.

But if he's a finder, he'll still be working with town to find batman and the other cult leaders that aren't his. I can't countenance lynching him, now.

Now I don't know who to go after.

A day vig would be great. Thanks ;) If Eloth comes up two-face, we don't lynch amp for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Anyone agree/disagree?

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:07 AM

Sorry computer is seriously lagging.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:08 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 02:04 AM, said:

So it seems that after the lack of night kill and lynch our most reliable info is the Ampelas find on Eloth. I feel like the only reason that BM wouldn't kill Eloth would be if Eloth is BM, or if Amp is BM and hes using the find info to muck shit up. Am I missing something or does this sound right?



Yep, I think so.

Who has most to gain from focus on Eloth? I don't know, no one else was anywhere near as close to being lynched on day 1. I'm leaning towards this being a genuine find.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:10 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

View PostD, on 06 June 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:

So, hypothetically if Eloth isn't Two-Face, who has the most to gain from the sudden shift in attention?


Is it even a shift in attention? I feel like he had a good bit of attention to begin with.


True. Telas was starting to garner attention, there.

But, it is a hypothetical. If Eloth isn't Two-Face, why would Amp say so. Just me thinking out-loud. We won't know that until other events have unfolded, likely which would just throw the game in a whole new direction. I'm just wanting to note it.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:10 AM

View PostKorbas, on 06 June 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

I thought at first we should lynch Ampelas... he could be recruited now, or he could/will be in the future.

But if he's a finder, he'll still be working with town to find batman and the other cult leaders that aren't his. I can't countenance lynching him, now.

Now I don't know who to go after.

A day vig would be great. Thanks ;) If Eloth comes up two-face, we don't lynch amp for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Anyone agree/disagree?


Why would he be working with town? Wouldnt he just be trying to inform his cult leader to keep them at an advantage? And also I dont think he would be trying to do finds on the other CL's. At least not with the intention of them getting killed, to begin with. That would put BM too close to his VCs I would think.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:11 AM

Well if he finds batman, he's still working with us. I assume he'd just out him on thread. You're probably right about other CLs, though.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:11 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 06 June 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

I thought at first we should lynch Ampelas... he could be recruited now, or he could/will be in the future.

But if he's a finder, he'll still be working with town to find batman and the other cult leaders that aren't his. I can't countenance lynching him, now.

Now I don't know who to go after.

A day vig would be great. Thanks ;) If Eloth comes up two-face, we don't lynch amp for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Anyone agree/disagree?


Why would he be working with town? Wouldnt he just be trying to inform his cult leader to keep them at an advantage? And also I dont think he would be trying to do finds on the other CL's. At least not with the intention of them getting killed, to begin with. That would put BM too close to his VCs I would think.


He'll be helping town find Batman, even if he's recruited, I think is what is being said.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:13 AM

View PostTelas, on 06 June 2012 - 02:08 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 02:04 AM, said:

So it seems that after the lack of night kill and lynch our most reliable info is the Ampelas find on Eloth. I feel like the only reason that BM wouldn't kill Eloth would be if Eloth is BM, or if Amp is BM and hes using the find info to muck shit up. Am I missing something or does this sound right?



Yep, I think so.

Who has most to gain from focus on Eloth? I don't know, no one else was anywhere near as close to being lynched on day 1. I'm leaning towards this being a genuine find.


It either is or it ain't, right? If it is, then BM should kill Eloth today or tonight depending on if it was him with the vig ability (which i believe it was). Even if it isn't i would think that BM would still kill eloth just in case. If Eloth survives through to day 3 I would have to assume that either he or Amp is BM.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:13 AM

well, i have to go to bed, but i think this is going to eat up the rest of the day...

I'll leave my vote is for now, just to hold pressure (not that what I say means anything anymore). But I'll sleep on this.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:13 AM

View PostKorbas, on 06 June 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Well if he finds batman, he's still working with us. I assume he'd just out him on thread. You're probably right about other CLs, though.



View PostD, on 06 June 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 06 June 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

I thought at first we should lynch Ampelas... he could be recruited now, or he could/will be in the future.

But if he's a finder, he'll still be working with town to find batman and the other cult leaders that aren't his. I can't countenance lynching him, now.

Now I don't know who to go after.

A day vig would be great. Thanks ;) If Eloth comes up two-face, we don't lynch amp for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Anyone agree/disagree?


Why would he be working with town? Wouldnt he just be trying to inform his cult leader to keep them at an advantage? And also I dont think he would be trying to do finds on the other CL's. At least not with the intention of them getting killed, to begin with. That would put BM too close to his VCs I would think.


He'll be helping town find Batman, even if he's recruited, I think is what is being said.


Ok, i got what youre saying now

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:27 AM

I'm off to bed. Be back in 8 hours

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:29 AM

I'm probably hitting the sack too. Maybe for more than 8 hours if I'm lucky.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:36 AM

I'm going to bed myself. We'll have much to discuss tomorrow.

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