[Meanas]

D, on 06 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Do we test?

I'd say I'm in favor, if it really was the Joker and PI who failed to get Karosis (which is possible, but that message could be read other ways), that'd take it down to 3 Cults with just 1 player. It'd also do 25% of Batman's work for him.

Edit: Sudden massive x-post.

Of course, if this is someone dicking around (hehe, I should speak... ) we lose two lynches (one to test and the other to kill the bastard if it comes back false). He was spouting stuff about a finder yesterday and didn't get NKed.... I dunno.

[Anomandaris]

Ampelas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

Posting from my phone, will be on properly later, but wanted to tell you I switched my find to eloth last night after he wasn't lynched. Eloth is two-face.

So now I'm posed with the question of either taking this as fact and thinking that Eloth is two-face. Or maybe Amp is a CL and is falsifying the fact that he can do night finds....hmmm...If BM really thinks that Amp is playing it true, then he should do his vig kill thang (I'm assuming it is him who has that ability, being the supreme predator and all) on Eloth, right?

[D'riss]

Meanas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:

D, on 06 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Do we test?

I'd say I'm in favor, if it really was the Joker and PI who failed to get Karosis (which is possible, but that message could be read other ways), that'd take it down to 3 Cults with just 1 player. It'd also do 25% of Batman's work for him.

Edit: Sudden massive x-post.

Of course, if this is someone dicking around (hehe, I should speak... ) we lose two lynches (one to test and the other to kill the bastard if it comes back false). He was spouting stuff about a finder yesterday and didn't get NKed.... I dunno.

Which is why I ask. Get into WIFOM heaven getting into why nothing, that we know of, happened to him. He could be fucking around as a recruit, but who'd recruit an outted player, (round and round we start to go!)

[Anomandaris]

Meanas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:

D, on 06 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Do we test?

I'd say I'm in favor, if it really was the Joker and PI who failed to get Karosis (which is possible, but that message could be read other ways), that'd take it down to 3 Cults with just 1 player. It'd also do 25% of Batman's work for him.

Edit: Sudden massive x-post.

Of course, if this is someone dicking around (hehe, I should speak... ) we lose two lynches (one to test and the other to kill the bastard if it comes back false). He was spouting stuff about a finder yesterday and didn't get NKed.... I dunno.

I thought it was amp who was talking about being a finder yesterday, wasnt it?

[Thyrllan]

Ampelas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

Posting from my phone, will be on properly later, but wanted to tell you I switched my find to eloth last night after he wasn't lynched. Eloth is two-face.

I am 12 and what is this????

Or have I just not caught up with something drastic yet?

[D'riss]

Anomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

Posting from my phone, will be on properly later, but wanted to tell you I switched my find to eloth last night after he wasn't lynched. Eloth is two-face.

So now I'm posed with the question of either taking this as fact and thinking that Eloth is two-face. Or maybe Amp is a CL and is falsifying the fact that he can do night finds....hmmm...If BM really thinks that Amp is playing it true, then he should do his vig kill thang (I'm assuming it is him who has that ability, being the supreme predator and all) on Eloth, right?

Hadn't considered this possibility. Batman might take the option into is own hands.

[Omtose]

OK, after a long and painful search of the last 21 pages I came up with this:
In the early part of the game, the only person that referred to Sheltatha as 'SL' was... Eloth.

Eloth, on 04 June 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

Karosis, on 04 June 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

Eloth, on 04 June 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:

The same might be true of Greek obligations

I'll obligate your Greeks if you know what I mean.

I'm sure my fields don't need fertalising (to quote the Lysistrata).


As for SL's overabundance of eagerness: they're probably new. Everyone here knows we'll lynch randomly in the last 90 seconds of the day, then day 2 we lynch whoever protested the most against yesterday's lynch for its randomness (which is likely to be HD, as he never survives past day 2 whenever he does sign up), day 3 Silencer goes down (probably for low posting but he'll interprete it as for being too smooth) and he'll huff and puff in SH and perhaps even close the game thread in anger before Grief unlocks it again, then day 4 Vengeance explodes on thread for some reason or other and then we're in end-game.

Then Two face referred to Shelly as SL:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Another message from Two-Face:

Quote

I'm sure we can come to a mutually beneficial deal. SL and Emurlahn are mine.

It wasn't until after the Two Face post that others started to. That just struck me as... distinctive.

[Anomandaris]

D, on 06 June 2012 - 01:49 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

Posting from my phone, will be on properly later, but wanted to tell you I switched my find to eloth last night after he wasn't lynched. Eloth is two-face.

So now I'm posed with the question of either taking this as fact and thinking that Eloth is two-face. Or maybe Amp is a CL and is falsifying the fact that he can do night finds....hmmm...If BM really thinks that Amp is playing it true, then he should do his vig kill thang (I'm assuming it is him who has that ability, being the supreme predator and all) on Eloth, right?

Hadn't considered this possibility. Batman might take the option into is own hands.

If he actually thinks that Eloth is TF, then i see no reason why he wouldn't. Thats a quarter of his VC done

[D'riss]

Nice find.

[Thyrllan]

Sorry Omtose I don't know if I agree with that. Shelly being SL isn't that unusual. Given that Shelly is SL in my notes

But it is an odd coincidence. Worth weighing up at least.

[Meanas]

It is an intriguing thought, leaving the hypothetical two-face for BM. If this is BS, we waste his time, if not, that's one less faction leader to contend with. And we can discount what Eloth says as CL mumbo-jumbo.

I'm not in the habit of leaving things to fate though. toughie...

[Anomandaris]

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

I am nearly done resolving (triple checking to make sure all the actions and stuff work out properly)

One thing I didn't drop in the OP, but will be added there soon:

actions are resolved in the following order :
Guard- Heal-Find-kill-recruit.

-ment

So is this just PS restating general mafia rules, or is he confirming that there are people in the game who can do all of these things?

[Telas]

Great find if true, Ampy. Let's see if the Batman does his thing, but if it's getting a few hours from deadline and it's not happening, I'll be voting Eloth.

It does make me wonder back to that Omtose-replying-to-himself thing where for a second it looked like him and Eloth were the same person - and someone else suggested (jokingly?) they could be Two-Face...

[Omtose]

Thyrllan, on 06 June 2012 - 01:52 AM, said:

Sorry Omtose I don't know if I agree with that. Shelly being SL isn't that unusual. Given that Shelly is SL in my notes

But it is an odd coincidence. Worth weighing up at least.

Well, I wasn't going to post it. I had it saved in notepad. Trust me after 21 pages I got THAT and Telas and Ampelas saying For Fuck Sake. Didn't seem worth mentioning. But I did think that the find was too much of a coincidence.

[Meanas]

Anomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

I am nearly done resolving (triple checking to make sure all the actions and stuff work out properly)

One thing I didn't drop in the OP, but will be added there soon:

actions are resolved in the following order :
Guard- Heal-Find-kill-recruit.

-ment

So is this just PS restating general mafia rules, or is he confirming that there are people in the game who can do all of these things?

Probably the later, which means this game has just kicked up another notch of complicatedness, not that we couldn't have guessed that from the Shin lynch

[Spite]

There is always the possibility that Amp is BM and is trying to seem townie by outing himself as finder but not wanting to waste a kill on Eloth when he wants to be looking for other leaders. I think this seems likely because should eloth come back as TF then we would trust him as town while he was just a filthy little bowel movement

[Anomandaris]

Telas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

Great find if true, Ampy. Let's see if the Batman does his thing, but if it's getting a few hours from deadline and it's not happening, I'll be voting Eloth.

It does make me wonder back to that Omtose-replying-to-himself thing where for a second it looked like him and Eloth were the same person - and someone else suggested (jokingly?) they could be Two-Face...

That peaked my curiosity as well. Doesn't seem out of the question to have two alts playing two face

[Korbas]

Meanas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:

D, on 06 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Do we test?

I'd say I'm in favor, if it really was the Joker and PI who failed to get Karosis (which is possible, but that message could be read other ways), that'd take it down to 3 Cults with just 1 player. It'd also do 25% of Batman's work for him.

Edit: Sudden massive x-post.

Of course, if this is someone dicking around (hehe, I should speak... ) we lose two lynches (one to test and the other to kill the bastard if it comes back false). He was spouting stuff about a finder yesterday and didn't get NKed.... I dunno.

NKed by whom? Batman wouldn't kill the find, I assume.. maybe he would. Idk.

[Meanas]

Anomandaris, on 06 June 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

Telas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

Great find if true, Ampy. Let's see if the Batman does his thing, but if it's getting a few hours from deadline and it's not happening, I'll be voting Eloth.

It does make me wonder back to that Omtose-replying-to-himself thing where for a second it looked like him and Eloth were the same person - and someone else suggested (jokingly?) they could be Two-Face...

That peaked my curiosity as well. Doesn't seem out of the question to have two alts playing two face

Not likely. 22 players signed up, with a name for each slot. It would be clever, but seems unlikely

[Telas]

It's possible someone did try to kill Ampelas but he was healed - and that's why we didn't see any kills last night.