[Tulas Shorn]

I have caught up as much as I can at this point. RL is kicking me in the nuts.

vote Eloth

best to test the reveal and see. If it proves false..its easy to go after amp.

I really will try my best to catch up tomorrow.

[Osseric]

I'm caught up. A few things I saw are that apparently The Joker and Ivy both tried to recruit Karosis, but failed. That left Penguin and Two-Face having possible recruits. Also, with Amp claiming the finder ability, would not all 4 CLs want him out of the picture in case he found them? So I would think one of them may have targetted Amp. Maybe it was the Penguin, and maybe he wants Amp to reveal Two-Face so that we take Two-Face out. All speculation of course. What would be wrong with testing this theory? If Amp is lying, he would definately be lynched. So why would he lie? We really do not have to know his motivation for outting Two-Face, as long as it checks true.

[Osseric]

vote Eloth

Because I cannot see how this will not lead us to one of the CLs. Either Amp is telling the truth and Eloth is Two-Face(or one of the CLs), or Amp is lying and we kill Amp. I can only see Amp lying if he is one of the CLs himself.

[Osseric]

Also, I was not online for the lynch train on Eloth yesterday. My thoughts were that Eloth was possibly The Joker, not Two-Face because when The Joker made the claim of me being Batman, the only thing I had said at that time that had anything to do with my suspicion of other players involved one of Eloth's first posts.

Eloth, on 04 June 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 04 June 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

you expected more spam? in the first hour?

it's been a while since we had some decent dragonsecks. who's keen?

Yes I did. I'm one demanding reality show watcher/participant!
Wait, those terms are mutually exclusive.... OK, I just like to moan. Especially during dragonsecks. But that's for the night only, when I've gotten to know you something better. I am cheap, but not for free nor for the average common videogamer - first prove that you have some conversational skills and at the very least, a decent pick up line.

The only other thing I said was to mention to korv that calling someone a criminal did indeed seem odd given that all the town were REMINDED that they were criminals in their role PM. Both things were very picky, and we considered them probably a mistake, but there was very little content to go on in that first hour of the game.

I have suspicions about Eloth, korv, Emur, Rashan, and Ano. Eloth and korv because of the above, Emur for jumping on The Joker's side by trying to help begin a lynch on me, Rashan for just seeming odd, and Ano for the back track. Nothing is major on any of them, though.


EDIT: fixed underline code

This post has been edited by Osseric: 06 June 2012 - 06:14 AM

[Osseric]

Sorry for the succession of posts, but something dawned on me. I've been trying to picture a scenario where Amp would lie. I really am having trouble coming up with something. A possibility, however unlikely, could be that Amp's slip up in which he revealed he did not know the town were not given a name in their role PM may be something he thought would come back to bite him. One of the CLs may have thought this. If Amp was a CL, he could feel that sometime in the future that this slip would come back up. Perhaps he is tossing one of the other CLs under the bus to buy our trust. Purely speculation, and highly unlikely. I wanted it out there just in case. I think he could have been recruited, and this reveal is also to buy our trust. I do not know if he would have been as willing to reveal himself as a true finder if not feeling some sort of pressure. Apologies to Amp for the scrutiny if your intentions are good. Seems a shitty way to repay you for your willing to reveal yourself by revealing a CL.

[Path-Shaper]

A cracking noise makes you all aware of the second broadcast of the day. It is from the Pengiuin.

Quote

"I may have saved the mayor's baby, but I refuse to save a mayor who stood by helpless as a baby, while Arkham City was ravaged by a disease that turned eagle scouts into crazed clowns and happy homemakers into dragons!"

-Liz

[Eloth]

Ampelas, on 06 June 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

Posting from my phone, will be on properly later, but wanted to tell you I switched my find to eloth last night after he wasn't lynched. Eloth is two-face.

Heads, I'll deny.
Tails, I'll reveal us both.

[Eloth]

* flips coin *

Tails.

[Osseric]

Let me guess. Amp is Poison Ivy.

[Eloth]

Yes, I am Two-Face.
Ampelas is The Joker (I tried to recruit them last night).

Now, my dear never-to-be minions, you have a choice to make.
Don't be overly hasty, please, and consider your options: two cult leaders are now outed, half of Batman's VC is known now, for him to pick off at his leasure. Do you really want to help him in this regard by lynching one of us?

I say this because, assuming Joker has the same role PM as I do, we both have a bit of protection. Perhaps better to let Batman waste his actions for a few days on us, rather than do the job for him and speed him up, hmm?

[Eloth]

Osseric, on 06 June 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

Sorry for the succession of posts, but something dawned on me. I've been trying to picture a scenario where Amp would lie. I really am having trouble coming up with something. A possibility, however unlikely, could be that Amp's slip up in which he revealed he did not know the town were not given a name in their role PM may be something he thought would come back to bite him. One of the CLs may have thought this. If Amp was a CL, he could feel that sometime in the future that this slip would come back up. Perhaps he is tossing one of the other CLs under the bus to buy our trust. Purely speculation, and highly unlikely. I wanted it out there just in case. I think he could have been recruited, and this reveal is also to buy our trust. I do not know if he would have been as willing to reveal himself as a true finder if not feeling some sort of pressure. Apologies to Amp for the scrutiny if your intentions are good. Seems a shitty way to repay you for your willing to reveal yourself by revealing a CL.

Considering people found my slip, it was not very hard for me to identify a number of players who also seemed to share my ignorance - SL was one (which is why he bit the bullet), Ampelas was another. I was not going to bypass the chance of letting a non-RI person slip through my fingers, so i try to recruit him. Turns out he is the Joker, as per the recruitment roles.

EDIT: roles ought to be rules.

This post has been edited by Eloth: 06 June 2012 - 08:07 AM

[Eloth]

Posting as I catch up:

Korbas, on 06 June 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Also, why you?

Because I thought it would be fun to have the patronizing bastard work for me (I had a single option double recruit, which was nicely wasted yesterday to get 0 recruits and a pocket Joker )

[Osseric]

You had a double recruit? One was The Joker(Amp you say) and the other was SL?

So it was possible that the other 3 CLs all used this. Possible there is now one Joker recruit, one Ivy, and Two Penguin.

Who killed SL?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2, 24 hours and 0 minutes left.

21 players remaining alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

it takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 go to night.

1 vote for Liosan (Meanas)
3 vote for Eloth (Omtose, Tulas Shorn, Osseric)

The Following people have not voted:
21 players remaining alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

-Liz

[Eloth]

Osseric, on 06 June 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:

You had a double recruit? One was The Joker(Amp you say) and the other was SL?

So it was possible that the other 3 CLs all used this. Possible there is now one Joker recruit, one Ivy, and Two Penguin.

Who killed SL?

The other was Karosis.
As for who killed SL, I honestly don't know.

[Eloth]

You didn't think I was really going to be honest and recruit the only two players I claimed, now do you?
Especially not when one of them was vigged moments after that announcement?

[Osseric]

If you targetted Karosis, then you also know who the other CL to target Karosis was. Who was it?

You know that Amp is The Joker because you say you tried to recruit him. So who else targetted Karosis with you?

[Osseric]

I did not really think you ever targetted SL. I figured you used SL as a way to try to remove suspicion from you on Day 1.

[Eloth]

Also, Amp, you made a major mistake in revealing me, as your finder reveal seemed to have gotten away from half-outing yourself yesterday during your spat with Telas. I would have been content to let you live quietly if you had done the same for me (well, I would have flipped a coin, perhaps - adopting that aspect of Harvey Dent for decision making is truely fun), but as I have absolutely nothing to lose anymore, dragging you down kicking and screaming is going to be a real pleasure.

[Eloth]

Osseric, on 06 June 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

If you targetted Karosis, then you also know who the other CL to target Karosis was. Who was it?

You know that Amp is The Joker because you say you tried to recruit him. So who else targetted Karosis with you?

Sorry Batman, not going to tell you. It is neither in my interest nor in that of town.