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Posted 17 February 2004 - 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by LooseCannon:
Most authors, from what I have seen, say they usually write five or six days a week, eight hours a day when writing a novel. I somehow doubt Martin is doing these appearances in his free time. I could be wrong I guess, but it is strange in any case.


By most authors you must mean Terry Goodkind, who pumps out twenty pages of garbage per day. Great cosmos, thank all goodness not all authors are Goodkinds. Grief, I can just imagine Goodkind starving away at the computer, like a man on the world's most important mission, knowing his next "masterpiece" will save lives and bring truth to the world. I can't bring myself to take a dislike of George when there is slime like Goodkind about.

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 07:22 AM

Well, if you want to read Martin regularly you have to reread him every now or then (or be a damn slow reader)
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Posted 17 September 2002 - 11:45 AM

the Old Bear... damn, I forgot this too...
also, Benjen seemed to be quite cool

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Posted 27 March 2003 - 11:01 AM

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The rest of the Jordan cast should be killed and tortured slowly and cruelly in the last book, that is a Jordan book I would like to read).


That would be a book of pure gratifying bliss.

I have never seen something with so much potential that gets soooo badly fu**ed up as the Robert Jordan series.

Sorry to all the Jordan fans here, but his ‘Wheel of Time’ series has become complete FLUFF. There are more meaningful plots and a bigger scope (in fantasy terms) in SE's first 2 books than what is contained in the whole of Jordan's series.

Also, I have not seen a bigger bunch of idiots than the bad guys in Jordan’s series (the good guys being close competitors for that position).

I apologise to everyone because there is really nothing being offered here in my post but I just need to vent my anger at such blatant exploitation of loyal fans by Robert Jordan.

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Posted 21 January 2004 - 12:28 AM

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Making fun of a newcomer, how dare you!

This is what I meant (as well you people know anyway *grrr*)

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Posted 21 January 2003 - 11:28 AM

august?! oh well...that gives me time enough to freshen up the plot (prolly twice too :/)
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Posted 18 February 2004 - 10:21 AM

Don't you think you all might be being a bit unfair. You make it sound like he should be chained to a keyboard, let him have his own free time, he is allowed a social life. What would you rather, A Feast For Crows tomorrow, sloppy, hurried and genuinely damning for the whole series or A Feast For Crows in six months, the masterpiece we are all hoping it will be.

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 06:36 AM

I have to brag...

Even though I have only read the first book up to date, I do have all four book autographed and have talked to Martin. (At a session beware)

I loved it up to now, and will certainly read on.
A very delicate, well-thought series. Lots of information, a lot to digest, but that is what makes it interesting. (God knows Erikson loves details)
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Posted 04 April 2003 - 01:23 PM

@Blind.
Storywise Martin is about as distant from Erikson as you can get. Instead of the lowliest soldeirs, it follows the highest nobles, Gods are kept at arm's lengths and magic is limited.

But in terms of quality they are as close as they come. If someone put a gun to my head I'd have to say Martin is better, but otherwise it's very close. Like erikson, there is no black and white characters in ASOIAF. You get different people's viewpoints who are on seperate sides and are at war with each other, but that doesn't stop you from liking them. Good people do bad things and bad people do good things. And like Erikson, he is not adverse to killing off main characters. And most imoprtantly, the writing itself is brilliant. The only difference is that sex and language in general is far more explicit (though not as frequent as many claim) than Erikson. A scene early on which puts a LOT of people off has a thirteen year old having sex with a thirty someting warleader. But when you look at it with a more open mind you see that that is one of the most nicest parts of the whole series.It's also interesting to note that the explicit violence point never ever gets raised (first chapter sees a seven year old boy iding to watch a beheading).

Definately worth a read. And yes, they are very complex. Not as complex as Erikson, but the politics in particular is (but don't let that deter you. Even that is interesting).

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Posted 08 November 2002 - 01:57 PM

Jaimes is a very cool and complex character. He's fast becoming one of my favourite Martin characters.
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Posted 20 January 2003 - 06:19 PM

I think that the delay is related to the importance of the book. So far the story has been concerned with the political struggles of the south. In this book I believe we will begin to meet and understand the power of The Others. Perhaps in this we have arrived at a new section of his story.

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Posted 04 April 2003 - 07:07 AM

Posted ImageI know what you mean about it being hard to get into but it was one of those tales that just got immeasurably better as it went. Well worth sticking with.

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Posted 02 March 2003 - 08:14 AM

To comment on all the criticism voiced towards RJ, how many people do you think buy the prologue? I mean, you get it when you buy the book for god's sake. Only the purely fanatical readers will buy the prologue, and they are probably extremely happy that RJ released it beforehand. And this does not lend credit to everyones' theories of RJ writing solely for the money, since then he would have done what GRRM did and tried to attract more people, not pleasing his die-hard fans with a sneak peak.
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Posted 13 February 2003 - 11:23 AM

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Posted 01 December 2002 - 03:37 AM

I agree. Erikson just has a larger scale and a more complex world. He also only has like three main characters whilst Erikson has...tens of them...

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Posted 01 March 2003 - 04:30 AM

Blinky it's the prologue to Feat for Crows. Grrm sold it to a Magazine. Funny how RJ does this and gets blastered but when Grrm does it we don't hear anyone complaning.
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Posted 15 March 2003 - 11:01 PM

oh, i dunno, id say Martin is fantasy. He actually writes pretty typical fantasy (Dragons, lost queens, magic etc.), just from a differnet perspective. Now China Mieville, he is not particularly fantasy...

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 05:55 AM

About Martin's delays... does it have anything to do with all the Hedge Knight side projects and the 2,458 *con appearances he makes every year? Why doesn't the guy just stay home, sit on a stack of empty pizza boxes, and write the book?

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Posted 21 February 2004 - 02:54 PM

@Paran: Red or Blue pill mate ? Posted Image

Dunno if this is a consolation, but the person most frustrated by the delay of AFFC, in the world, is GRRM himself.

"It seems I have been working on number four half my life."

"Other writers have finished whole trilogies while I've been working on number four."

"Giant megaseries are harder for me. Especially the fourth volume... "

It is ironic that skipping the five year gap between book 3 and 4, actually created one.

btw the quotes above are taken from a recent chat transcript

On the light side I am sure once AFFC is out, his output will be back to one book every couple of years again.

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Posted 09 February 2003 - 02:08 PM

I must agree with Anomandaris on that point.

I do think that GRRM is better than Erikson though. (not by too much)

@lady A: how did you become moderator, talking all this bad stuff about SE on a SE site?

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