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Just purchased "Dragon Magazine" issue 305.Containing GRRMs,SOIAF novella "The Arms Of the Kraken".This is the prologue to "A Feast Of Crows" and is revised never before published version.
Theres also some great original artwork based around SOIAF.
( not read it yet..i'll let you all know what it's like)
The Green Man has returned as the living face of the whole earth .
George RR Martin
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MultiQuote#302 Guest_Monk_*
Posted 17 March 2003 - 10:52 PM
I don't know if this has been mentioned already, don't have the time to go through all the posts on this thread. However in my copy of A Game of Thrones I looked in the book in the 'About the Author' part and it said that he was now working on the third book of the series which would be called A Dance of Dragons. The funny thing was that on the inside of the cover it showed a picture of A Storm of Swords. Anybody know anything about this?
"Men who dare not fail cannot succeed."
"Men who dare not fail cannot succeed."
#303 Guest_Pale Remnants_*
Posted 02 December 2002 - 12:32 PM
If you 're desperate for new SOIAF material .The Hedge Knight comic has just been released( not a comics fan myself, apart from 2000AD...but the artwork on GRRMs site looks impressive)
Also there a trading card game based around the characters and places in Westeros.
I tried recently to get hold of the limited edition novella "The Hedge knight". Published in the anthology "Legends", but the price is extortionate.( A similar situation as SEs "Blood Follows").
Also there a trading card game based around the characters and places in Westeros.
I tried recently to get hold of the limited edition novella "The Hedge knight". Published in the anthology "Legends", but the price is extortionate.( A similar situation as SEs "Blood Follows").
#305 Guest_Spindle_*
Posted 20 March 2004 - 04:03 PM
Well, I started this topic in august 2002. At that time his last book (A Storm of Swords) was already 2 years old.
Probably this topic will last another half year before his new book is in the shops. He is a great writer, but he is taking too long...
It is very depressing when you have to check each month (for three years) when a feast for crows is going to be published.
One of the longest running topics of the forum!!
Probably this topic will last another half year before his new book is in the shops. He is a great writer, but he is taking too long...
It is very depressing when you have to check each month (for three years) when a feast for crows is going to be published.
One of the longest running topics of the forum!!
#306 Guest_Varys_*
Posted 23 April 2003 - 12:23 PM
Well, in that case...never mind 
The road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
The road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
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Posted 10 December 2002 - 10:08 AM
Yeah, Jaquen H'ghar was my favourite character...
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Hear them rattle
These chains of living
Bound to every moment passed
Until the Wreckage clamours
In deafening wake
And each stride trails
A dirge of the lost.
House of Chains
Fisher Kel Tath
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Hear them rattle
These chains of living
Bound to every moment passed
Until the Wreckage clamours
In deafening wake
And each stride trails
A dirge of the lost.
House of Chains
Fisher Kel Tath
#308 Guest_Pale Remnants_*
Posted 04 April 2003 - 11:32 PM
Here's one....a detailed look at Soiaf
http://www.westeros....el/Concordance/
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http://www.westeros....el/Concordance/
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#310 Guest_PUG_*
Posted 21 July 2003 - 03:43 PM
I really enjoy ASOIAF, it is my third favorite series, but I have one major problem with it. I don't if it has been discussed before and it has been three years since I read it, but does everyone remember the battle scene at Winterfell with the Bastard of Bolton. Now they believed that he was dead, killed by one of the Knight's of Winterfell (can't remember his name). Now my problem is, are you going to trust someone that you thought you just killed and welcome him with open arms. No I don't think so. I found that scene totally unbelievabe.
My second problem, which just came to mind was during Jaime's escape from Riverrun. When Brianna pushed the boulder onto the boat. I found that idea stale and old. What do you guys think?
My second problem, which just came to mind was during Jaime's escape from Riverrun. When Brianna pushed the boulder onto the boat. I found that idea stale and old. What do you guys think?
#311 Guest_Varys_*
Posted 14 March 2003 - 04:16 AM
Half way through the third book, Morningstar?
Unfortunately I do not posess the language skills necessary to convey what I think of the second half of Storm of Swords, but it beats eight times of crap out of the first half. Really. The ending of pretty much everyone's POV is packed full of twists, great writing, and a fair amount of resolution. I thought about giving up around page 400 and If I did, and later known what I know now, I would have gone back and slapped myself silly. Seriously, read the second half.
And just to comment on the quote Sprout quoted (I must have missed it first time), the advance Jordan receieved was $100,000+, and that's not counting the % of individual sales he receieved, since I gather Glimmers sold a lot.
The road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
Unfortunately I do not posess the language skills necessary to convey what I think of the second half of Storm of Swords, but it beats eight times of crap out of the first half. Really. The ending of pretty much everyone's POV is packed full of twists, great writing, and a fair amount of resolution. I thought about giving up around page 400 and If I did, and later known what I know now, I would have gone back and slapped myself silly. Seriously, read the second half.
And just to comment on the quote Sprout quoted (I must have missed it first time), the advance Jordan receieved was $100,000+, and that's not counting the % of individual sales he receieved, since I gather Glimmers sold a lot.
The road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
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Posted 15 March 2003 - 03:15 PM
depends if you like noble's stories over militaristic fantasy...
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If we light a candle a shadow appears. The more we strive for light the bigger shadow will grow behind us.
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If we light a candle a shadow appears. The more we strive for light the bigger shadow will grow behind us.
Crown of the Deck of Dragons
also known as Gothos
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:27 AM
does that mean the fourth one will be coming out soon?
"You have deceived Burn!"
"No. I have constrained her."
"You have deceived Burn!"
"No. I have constrained her."
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Posted 04 April 2003 - 07:02 AM
He is excellent Blind, and I actually prefer him to SE (though only just)."Dem Bones."
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#315 Guest_Varys_*
Posted 15 March 2003 - 03:54 PM
Memories of ice had way, way, too much marching, but other than that it was really good. But I still think it could have been trimmed to under or thereabouts a thousand pages and not much would have been missed (the Maybi's story, the whole Whiskeyjack and [whatsherface] thing, etc). But on the other hand MoI had a seige, and as great as ASOIAF is, it has yet to have a seige (although hopefully we get to see Riverun in AFFC).
The road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
The road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
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Posted 21 January 2004 - 01:09 AM
lol... thats what you get for bragging
but yeah, thats what i meant
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O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede,
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but yeah, thats what i meant
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O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede,
keimentha tois keinon rhemasi peithomenoi.
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Come and see knefles's hat!!!
O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti têde; keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi.
#317 Guest_Varys_*
Posted 26 February 2003 - 11:31 PM
Interesting, Pale. I don't have that forward in my copy.
However, I think it is important to stress the word "deliberate" with regards to his metaphors. Not that I would call him him a liar but when you consider how passionatly agricultural he was, and how he was skeptical of industry, you can see manifestations of it appear blatently throughout the book, like how it is only the enemy that use smoking seige engines, or how upon returning to the Shire the smoking factory is a sign of the evil that has come into the Shire. Maybe Tolkien was just trying not to sound pretentious, or maybe he was more simply stepping back; not wanting his interpretatins of his book to cloud the reader's.
But even if he didn't do it deliberately that still doesn't mean those metaphors or the lessens (such as the arrogance of evil or the need to resist) in the book doesn't exist, or are diminished because it was never meant to be suggested. A good work of literature will be open to interpretation, possibly for decades or centuries later, and I would say that not even the author has to necessarily agree with that interpretation for it to be accurate.
The road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
However, I think it is important to stress the word "deliberate" with regards to his metaphors. Not that I would call him him a liar but when you consider how passionatly agricultural he was, and how he was skeptical of industry, you can see manifestations of it appear blatently throughout the book, like how it is only the enemy that use smoking seige engines, or how upon returning to the Shire the smoking factory is a sign of the evil that has come into the Shire. Maybe Tolkien was just trying not to sound pretentious, or maybe he was more simply stepping back; not wanting his interpretatins of his book to cloud the reader's.
But even if he didn't do it deliberately that still doesn't mean those metaphors or the lessens (such as the arrogance of evil or the need to resist) in the book doesn't exist, or are diminished because it was never meant to be suggested. A good work of literature will be open to interpretation, possibly for decades or centuries later, and I would say that not even the author has to necessarily agree with that interpretation for it to be accurate.
The road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.
#318 Guest_Steve_*
Posted 05 July 2003 - 04:40 AM
The only character that interested me in Jordan's world is Rand, especially in The Dragon Reborn, bu even that's gone now.
Falco, what about Garad, Will, Sam, Jon, Robb, Ned, Bran, Davos, Brienne, Hoster Tully, Jojen, Meera, Osha, Hodor, the Greatjon, the Smalljon, the two Manderleys, Pyp, Gendry, Kevan Lannister, Edmure Tully, Edric Storm, Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr, Garlan Tyrell, Jeor Mormont, Dolorous Edd, Podrick Payne, Stevron Frey, and Tyrion? Wouldn't you consider those people nice? I certainly would.
Sure there's a lot of dark characters and plenty of shades of grey, but there's goodness too if you look for it.
"Even the damned may love." - Roland of Gilead, the last gunslinger.
Falco, what about Garad, Will, Sam, Jon, Robb, Ned, Bran, Davos, Brienne, Hoster Tully, Jojen, Meera, Osha, Hodor, the Greatjon, the Smalljon, the two Manderleys, Pyp, Gendry, Kevan Lannister, Edmure Tully, Edric Storm, Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr, Garlan Tyrell, Jeor Mormont, Dolorous Edd, Podrick Payne, Stevron Frey, and Tyrion? Wouldn't you consider those people nice? I certainly would.
Sure there's a lot of dark characters and plenty of shades of grey, but there's goodness too if you look for it.
"Even the damned may love." - Roland of Gilead, the last gunslinger.
#319 Guest_Steve_*
Posted 23 July 2003 - 02:26 AM
Re the Bolton thing.
Here's a quote from A Clash of Kings which explains things. It's after the battle and Theon is talking to the leader of the Dreadfort men he thinks of as 'Red Helm'.
I knew GRRM couldn't be that irresponsible.
I agree about the boulder thing, though.
"Even the damned may love." - Roland of Gilead, the last gunslinger.
Here's a quote from A Clash of Kings which explains things. It's after the battle and Theon is talking to the leader of the Dreadfort men he thinks of as 'Red Helm'.
quote:
"Ser Rodrick had you five-to-one."
"Aye, but he thought us friends. A common mistake. When the old fool gave me his hand, I took half his arm instead. Then I let him see my face." The man put both hands to his helm and lifted it off his head, holding it in the crook of his arm.
"Reek," Theon said.
I knew GRRM couldn't be that irresponsible.
I agree about the boulder thing, though.
"Even the damned may love." - Roland of Gilead, the last gunslinger.
#320 Guest__*
Posted 08 May 2003 - 05:30 PM
Nice, Pale. I didnt see that Cro cover yet.
btw, why does the US get all the crappy covers? lol
btw, why does the US get all the crappy covers? lol
