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Warring States Interlude One: Imperial Influences Ten years later...

#1961 User is offline   Barghast 

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:53 AM

View PostGamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 26 March 2012 - 07:41 AM, said:

View PostGamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 07:35 AM, said:

That post is really weird, Ruse...



?
why?

i'm calling Ruse out on a lie, and providing proof.


Why what? I'm agreeing that something's not right with Ruse's post.


lol, I though you meant my post was weird. I just was that it followed my post, missed the name "RUse". bah, I need sleep.

seriousdly, one more Chapter and i'm off to bed...

#1962 User is offline   Gamelon 

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:56 AM

Yes, Kalse voted him today... Hmm.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:00 AM

Thought you might have.

So Ruse, if you were just getting names off the top of your head and you got three wrong, why did you replace one and not myself and Omtose?

edit, three, not two

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 26 March 2012 - 08:01 AM


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:01 AM

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You know... That exchange really bothered me. Tennes HAS been quite vocal in defending Ruse, who Barghy has a big ol hard on for, and YET Barghy wants to protect Tennes. I thought Tennes was laying it on a little too thick.
Remove vote
Vote Barghast



I don't like how I find myself trusting D'riss. But he makes good points. There is too much shit going on between Ruse, Barghy and Tennes. Here's my thoughts. Barghy has made it obvious he has a major Boner for Ruse. Like huge, Peter North Style Boner. He has received no support. A bunch of people ssaying they are willing to vote. but not. To me, thats subtle distancing.

If Barghast was a leader, wouldn't at least some people follow him onto the train. Wouldn't he at least receive some support? Also, Tennes has been a defender of Ruse, and yesterday came after me pretty quickly when ruse was in my top 2 suspects. Though he was coming at me before that as well. BUT when he went after me the first time. He was summarily ignored. Again, no one looked at me until I was going after Ruse. My suspicion is that Rashan and Tennes are Ruse recruits.

So.....

remove vote

vote Ruse



The one thing that really sucks....is Gamelon. After a couple people have brought it up, i think I may have dropped him from my list too soon. Khell is a Cagey bitch. And, knowing he was going to be lynched, might have thrown that mean comment at Gamelon soley as a distancing move. If we manage to lynch Ruse, and he somehow came up inno. He and Okaros would be my main suspects. I still am wary of Okaros, but no one else seems to be. I don't like it when people can just slide on by. (Okaros/Gamelon) I am hoping Mockra gets modkilled soon as he is just dead weight and if he turns out to be a leader... meh, no shame in losing to a non entity. Why play if you can't post.




I can see it looks that way, if you look back i've been going after Ruse a few days in a row, or at least putting pressure on him. When I did a read through and found you to be scummy (linked with Atrahal) I also read through other players and I didn't find that Ruse was scummy. Rashan is out there, pure scumminess radiating from him but Ruse I got the impression that he was town.

Both lynches are stalling at the moment though not just Ruse'. Barghasts too.

Remove Vote

Whilst I get caught up.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:02 AM

jeees... ok so i got names mixed up.

point still stands that i have received allot more votes than the "3" that barghy keeps bringing up.

i was not going to go back 90 pages just to be 100% sure who was who.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:04 AM

View PostGamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

Thought you might have.

So Ruse, if you were just getting names off the top of your head and you got three wrong, why did you replace one and not myself and Omtose?

edit, three, not two





because i knew for a fact serc had voted for me and wasnt sure about the one i replaced him with.





you know what i am growing tired of this,

i didnt even sign up for this game


remove vote
Vote Ruse




just get barghy next please.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:08 AM

Why would I purposefully lie about something that is easily checked if you had to time "or inclination" to do go back and check?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:10 AM

good night, people. I'll be back in about 7 hours, I think.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:11 AM

It is Day 6

The clock is still frozen. Discussion and lynching is allowed.

23 hours and 14 minutes left in the day.

14 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

3 votes Barghast: Ruse, Silanah, D'riss
4 votes Ruse: Barghast, Kalse, Tellan, Ruse
1 vote Gamelon: Rashan


Players not voting: Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Serc, Tennes


Clock will start again in about 4 hours.
You’ve never heard of the Silanda? … It’s the ship that made the Warren of Telas run in less than 12 parsecs.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:27 AM

View PostTennes, on 26 March 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

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You know... That exchange really bothered me. Tennes HAS been quite vocal in defending Ruse, who Barghy has a big ol hard on for, and YET Barghy wants to protect Tennes. I thought Tennes was laying it on a little too thick.
Remove vote
Vote Barghast



I don't like how I find myself trusting D'riss. But he makes good points. There is too much shit going on between Ruse, Barghy and Tennes. Here's my thoughts. Barghy has made it obvious he has a major Boner for Ruse. Like huge, Peter North Style Boner. He has received no support. A bunch of people ssaying they are willing to vote. but not. To me, thats subtle distancing.

If Barghast was a leader, wouldn't at least some people follow him onto the train. Wouldn't he at least receive some support? Also, Tennes has been a defender of Ruse, and yesterday came after me pretty quickly when ruse was in my top 2 suspects. Though he was coming at me before that as well. BUT when he went after me the first time. He was summarily ignored. Again, no one looked at me until I was going after Ruse. My suspicion is that Rashan and Tennes are Ruse recruits.

So.....

remove vote

vote Ruse



The one thing that really sucks....is Gamelon. After a couple people have brought it up, i think I may have dropped him from my list too soon. Khell is a Cagey bitch. And, knowing he was going to be lynched, might have thrown that mean comment at Gamelon soley as a distancing move. If we manage to lynch Ruse, and he somehow came up inno. He and Okaros would be my main suspects. I still am wary of Okaros, but no one else seems to be. I don't like it when people can just slide on by. (Okaros/Gamelon) I am hoping Mockra gets modkilled soon as he is just dead weight and if he turns out to be a leader... meh, no shame in losing to a non entity. Why play if you can't post.




I can see it looks that way, if you look back i've been going after Ruse a few days in a row, or at least putting pressure on him. When I did a read through and found you to be scummy (linked with Atrahal) I also read through other players and I didn't find that Ruse was scummy. Rashan is out there, pure scumminess radiating from him but Ruse I got the impression that he was town.

Both lynches are stalling at the moment though not just Ruse'. Barghasts too.

Remove Vote

Whilst I get caught up.


I wish you had names in your quotes :wine:

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:31 AM

View PostRuse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Why would I purposefully lie about something that is easily checked if you had to time "or inclination" to do go back and check?


I don't know, you tell me?

I think the fact that you included people who didn't vote for you, then took out someone that didn't and not the others. Am I really the only person who thinks this is a bit odd? (Aside from Barghast :wine: )

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:42 AM

I had too many quotes within the text so I deleted some. ^ That post was the result. It is D'riss, Kalse and myself.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:43 AM

View PostGamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Why would I purposefully lie about something that is easily checked if you had to time "or inclination" to do go back and check?


I don't know, you tell me?

I think the fact that you included people who didn't vote for you, then took out someone that didn't and not the others. Am I really the only person who thinks this is a bit odd? (Aside from Barghast :wine: )


because i was mistaken about who voted me...simple really.
like i said...i put in one name and meant to put in serc...so corrected the one mistake i KNEW to be wrong.
Im working here and playing and never claimed to be 100% correct.


i could have sworn i had at least ONE of the "o" names vote for me at least once this game...i dont have time to go back and check all the votes. i barely have any time to play as it is.



So if you want to lynch me for overstating my position when i was getting understated at the same time by barghast then go ahead.
not like the one is any worse than the other. Barghast was saying 3 votes...is that any better?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:49 AM

View PostRuse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

View PostGamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Why would I purposefully lie about something that is easily checked if you had to time "or inclination" to do go back and check?


I don't know, you tell me?

I think the fact that you included people who didn't vote for you, then took out someone that didn't and not the others. Am I really the only person who thinks this is a bit odd? (Aside from Barghast :wine: )


because i was mistaken about who voted me...simple really.
like i said...i put in one name and meant to put in serc...so corrected the one mistake i KNEW to be wrong.
Im working here and playing and never claimed to be 100% correct.


i could have sworn i had at least ONE of the "o" names vote for me at least once this game...i dont have time to go back and check all the votes. i barely have any time to play as it is.



So if you want to lynch me for overstating my position when i was getting understated at the same time by barghast then go ahead.
not like the one is any worse than the other. Barghast was saying 3 votes...is that any better?


I'm just curious, that's all. I'm not in a hurry to lynch you, I'm not convinced you're a recruiter and there's still plenty of time in the day.

I think it's highly probably that you've been recruited though, and a tendecy to accidently point to one's master instead of someone else when you're scum has been noted before.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:55 AM

I listed the names very quickly off the top of my head, was writing the names i thought had voted for me, i posted then immediatley realised that it was serc who voted an removed earlyer today and not okaros and then corrected it.



make of it was what you will.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:58 AM

just note how easy my lynch now will swing towards me and happen compared to barghy please folks...

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:14 AM

View PostGamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

View PostGamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Why would I purposefully lie about something that is easily checked if you had to time "or inclination" to do go back and check?


I don't know, you tell me?

I think the fact that you included people who didn't vote for you, then took out someone that didn't and not the others. Am I really the only person who thinks this is a bit odd? (Aside from Barghast :wine: )


because i was mistaken about who voted me...simple really.
like i said...i put in one name and meant to put in serc...so corrected the one mistake i KNEW to be wrong.
Im working here and playing and never claimed to be 100% correct.


i could have sworn i had at least ONE of the "o" names vote for me at least once this game...i dont have time to go back and check all the votes. i barely have any time to play as it is.



So if you want to lynch me for overstating my position when i was getting understated at the same time by barghast then go ahead.
not like the one is any worse than the other. Barghast was saying 3 votes...is that any better?


I'm just curious, that's all. I'm not in a hurry to lynch you, I'm not convinced you're a recruiter and there's still plenty of time in the day.

I think it's highly probably that you've been recruited though, and a tendecy to accidently point to one's master instead of someone else when you're scum has been noted before.


Isn't the case on Ruse he is Atrahals recruiter? Due to his reaction to the Atrahal lynch etc and that way the train swung from Liosan to Emurlahn with Atrahal and Ruse being the two that really got that happening. I'm not sure the recruits know each other so if Atrahal makes a move only the recruiter can follow and hope the rest of the recruits follow suit.

At this stage of the game we got to be targetting recruiters and not just recruits. Whats annoying is, I am starting to believe Ruse isn't a recruiter either at this point, I'm starting to find his defence believable and I'm getting a sinking feeling this might blow up in our faces.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:25 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 15 March 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

It is Day 1

1 vote Rashan: Liosan
11 votes Karosis: D'riss, Okaros, Kalse, Barghast, Emurlahn, Silanah, Tennes, Olar Ethil, Korvalain, Atrahal, Rashan
2 votes Mockra: Sorrit, Korvalain
1 vote Okaros: Karosis
1 vote Atrahal: Tellan
1 vote Liosan: Emurlahn
1 vote Serc: Tennes
1 vote Korvalain: Silanah, Omtose

Karosis (Sir Thursday) was Minister of Civil Services.




View PostPath-Shaper, on 16 March 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

It is Day 2.


3 votes Liosan: Kalse, Emurlahn, Korvalain
11 votes Emurlahn: Rashan, Atrahal, Ruse, Silanah, Omtose, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Olar Ethil, Liosan, Tennes
1 vote Serc: Tellan

Players not voting: Fener, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Sorrit

Emurlahn, (Lizra) was Middle Counselor of the Imperial Household.

Fener (Kurt Montandon) was Major Counselor of the Imperial Household. <modkilled>




View PostPath-Shaper, on 20 March 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

It is Day 3.

10 votes to lynch, 9 to go to night.

18 players are left alive:
Atrahal Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes


10 votes Liosan: Omtose, Atrahal, Korvalain、D'riss, Serc, Mockra, Ruse, Tennes, Gamelon, Okaros
3 votes Tellan: Rashan, Silanah, Kalse
1 vote Serc: Barghast


Players not Voting: Liosan, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Tellan


Liosan (D'rek) was Minister of the Imperial Household.



View PostPath-Shaper, on 22 March 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

It is Day 4.

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

9 votes Atrahal: Rashan, Omtose, Tellan, Mockra, Serc, D'riss, Gamelon, Okaros, Silanah
1 vote D'riss: Ruse
1 vote Gamelon: Kalse
1 vote Tennes: Barghast
5 votes Omtose: Okaros, Ruse, Atrahal, Tennes, Olar Ethil


Players not voting: Korvalain,

Atrahal (K0rbas) is dead. He was Jibu, Master of Ceremonies and a Bribed Minister of the Ouchi group



View PostPath-Shaper, on 23 March 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

It is day 5,

8 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night.

4 votes Ruse: Barghast, Rashan, Serc, Olar Ethil
8 votes Olar Ethil: Kalse, Korvalain, D'riss, Omtose, Gamelon, Tennes, Mockra, Silanah


Players not voting: Okaros, Ruse, Tellan

Olar Ethil (Mott) was Nakatsukasa-sho (Center Minister).


Resolving night now.


Looking through the lynch trains combined with notes that I have Korvalian has shot up to number one out of my suspect list. Maybe it is a bit late in the day to provide a new option. I could easily vote for Ruse today based on the interaction between them the day I wanted to vote Mockra, combined with the poetry and being on the Omtose train. However, I think at best he'll come up recruit.

Looking back I had Korvalian pegged as Kalse' recruit but if you reverse my thoughts then that could be more applicable. Kalse has admitted that he can be recruited. He showed good insight early on and was out of the limelight to not receive much heat until my case. Korvalian was not on the Atrahal train. Why would he vote off his recruit? Yet why would he also be on an opposing train? Kalse (his recruit) starts a train on Olar the next day which he can follow. If Kalse gets called out he can reveal and Korvalain doesn't have to do too much. Kalse also said he healed Korv early on which makes us trust what Korv has to say somewhat.

Anyway



Vote Ruse



I am going to look more into Korvalian tomorrow. I think he was anxious not to get lynched day one and he threw a fit, (why always me sort of thing) and subsequently disappeared.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

I'd hope recruits don't know each other, else this game would be very much unbalenced in favour of scum! In any case, both Lio and Emur were inno, so why would Atrahal and Ruse want to swing the train either way? The way they were playing seems like a horrifically blatant way to play if Ruse is the recruiter.

I'm feeling the same about this blowing up. At least with killer scum games you have a good idea of when D-Day is.

To be honest, his defence makes me want to lynch him, and if this were early game I would be perfectly happy to. I fucking hate self voting.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:28 AM

Erm, Tennes, day hasn't started yet. We have 23 odd hours to go... And that's literally a scroll up the page to check...

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