[Tennes]

If I get the time today i'll try and look more into Korv. The lynch trains were posted for me rather than hunting through to find them. Make of them what you will. (Maybe you'll find something I didn't.)



^ Reason I voted Ruse is because people will think he is being defended, that if we lynch elsewhere today it will be a distraction for tomorrow. I have no affiliation to Ruse yet I do not believe him to be a recruiter. Recruited yes otherwise I certainly wouldn't vote him off.

[Tennes]

Gamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

Erm, Tennes, day hasn't started yet. We have 23 odd hours to go... And that's literally a scroll up the page to check...

Looking back though over the last few pages the discussion has been between Barghast and Ruse. By bringing in a new candidate it messes with our heads. People find these two to be scummy so there has to be some merit in what they are saying. Maybe i'm blinded by looking for Atrahal's leader and not who is cult. Ruse or Barghast could be an unrelated cult for all I know.

[Tennes]

Gamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

I'd hope recruits don't know each other, else this game would be very much unbalenced in favour of scum! In any case, both Lio and Emur were inno, so why would Atrahal and Ruse want to swing the train either way? The way they were playing seems like a horrifically blatant way to play if Ruse is the recruiter.

I'm feeling the same about this blowing up. At least with killer scum games you have a good idea of when D-Day is.

To be honest, his defence makes me want to lynch him, and if this were early game I would be perfectly happy to. I fucking hate self voting.

Who self voted? I cannot get a proper read through going with work as busy as it is.

[Mockra]

Well lots of reasons as to why the swung it.. if they even did, my two favorites being they knew we had to lynch Liosan after Emurlahn and waste two days while they could happily recruit knowing that there necks were not going to be on the line and could pick a recruit safely knowing they won't be lynched the next day. And having two innos gone a couple more of their sides and enough finger pointing in various directions they could get away with it. And almost did in fact as Omtose could easily have been lynched and not Atrahal.


Or Atrahal was left hanging out there and Ruse thought better move and make it not so weird and didn't antcipate that it would swing quite like that as everyone jumped aboard.

I don't particularly like the self vote either, its not a foregone conclusion and I hate it when people give in.

I kinda think Tennes is right though, if we don't lynch Ruse and the next person isn't Atrahal's recruiter, we are going to keep going back to Ruse.

[Gamelon]

Ruse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

Thought you might have.

So Ruse, if you were just getting names off the top of your head and you got three wrong, why did you replace one and not myself and Omtose?

edit, three, not two

because i knew for a fact serc had voted for me and wasnt sure about the one i replaced him with.





you know what i am growing tired of this,

i didnt even sign up for this game


remove vote
Vote Ruse



just get barghy next please.

Tennes, on 26 March 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

I'd hope recruits don't know each other, else this game would be very much unbalenced in favour of scum! In any case, both Lio and Emur were inno, so why would Atrahal and Ruse want to swing the train either way? The way they were playing seems like a horrifically blatant way to play if Ruse is the recruiter.

I'm feeling the same about this blowing up. At least with killer scum games you have a good idea of when D-Day is.

To be honest, his defence makes me want to lynch him, and if this were early game I would be perfectly happy to. I fucking hate self voting.

Who self voted? I cannot get a proper read through going with work as busy as it is.

Ruse did.

[Tennes]

Shinrei, on 26 March 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

It is Day 6

The clock is still frozen. Discussion and lynching is allowed.

23 hours and 14 minutes left in the day.

14 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

3 votes Barghast: Ruse, Silanah, D'riss
4 votes Ruse: Barghast, Kalse, Tellan, Ruse
1 vote Gamelon: Rashan


Players not voting: Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Serc, Tennes


Clock will start again in about 4 hours.

Does Ruse have a double vote?



edit to add wink

This post has been edited by Tennes: 26 March 2012 - 10:08 AM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6

The clock is still frozen. Discussion and lynching is allowed.

23 hours and 14 minutes left in the day.

14 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

2 votes Barghast: Silanah, D'riss
5 votes Ruse: Barghast, Kalse, Tellan, Ruse, Tennes
1 vote Gamelon: Rashan


Players not voting: Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Serc

[Omtose]

For fuck sake! just to end the pissing and moaning!

vote Ruse

[Ruse]

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6

THE CLOCK HAS STARTED.

23 hours and 14 minutes left in the day.

14 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

2 votes Barghast: Silanah, D'riss
6 votes Ruse: Barghast, Kalse, Tellan, Ruse, Tennes, Omtose
1 vote Gamelon: Rashan


Players not voting: Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

[Path-Shaper]

Don't everybody post at once.

[Rashan]

Mockra, on 26 March 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Ruse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 26 March 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

Ruse, on 26 March 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Why would I purposefully lie about something that is easily checked if you had to time "or inclination" to do go back and check?

I don't know, you tell me?

I think the fact that you included people who didn't vote for you, then took out someone that didn't and not the others. Am I really the only person who thinks this is a bit odd? (Aside from Barghast )

because i was mistaken about who voted me...simple really.
like i said...i put in one name and meant to put in serc...so corrected the one mistake i KNEW to be wrong.
Im working here and playing and never claimed to be 100% correct.


i could have sworn i had at least ONE of the "o" names vote for me at least once this game...i dont have time to go back and check all the votes. i barely have any time to play as it is.



So if you want to lynch me for overstating my position when i was getting understated at the same time by barghast then go ahead.
not like the one is any worse than the other. Barghast was saying 3 votes...is that any better?

I'm just curious, that's all. I'm not in a hurry to lynch you, I'm not convinced you're a recruiter and there's still plenty of time in the day.

I think it's highly probably that you've been recruited though, and a tendecy to accidently point to one's master instead of someone else when you're scum has been noted before.

Isn't the case on Ruse he is Atrahals recruiter? Due to his reaction to the Atrahal lynch etc and that way the train swung from Liosan to Emurlahn with Atrahal and Ruse being the two that really got that happening. I'm not sure the recruits know each other so if Atrahal makes a move only the recruiter can follow and hope the rest of the recruits follow suit.

At this stage of the game we got to be targetting recruiters and not just recruits. Whats annoying is, I am starting to believe Ruse isn't a recruiter either at this point, I'm starting to find his defence believable and I'm getting a sinking feeling this might blow up in our faces.

If this is the case, this is retarded. We really haven't had a better case than someone who was on the swing part of a lynch train when both possible lynches were innocent?

[Rashan]

Right now, I feel neither Ruse nor Barghast will come up a Recruiter. Maybe recruited, either of them, but not a recruiter.

Remove Vote

Vote Okaros

This post has been edited by Rashan: 26 March 2012 - 12:33 PM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6



22 hours and 37 minutes left in the day.

14 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

2 votes Barghast: Silanah, D'riss
6 votes Ruse: Barghast, Kalse, Tellan, Ruse, Tennes, Omtose
1 vote Okaros: Rashan


Players not voting: Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 March 2012 - 12:36 PM

[Tennes]

These are just little tidbits for now I cannot be sure whether I have the time to make a full case.



Korvalain, on 13 March 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

And being dirt poor I only have this bit of poetry to offer our liege written in calligraphy no less. (Yes I'm an overacheiver)


This looks like a signal towards people with a cultural ability, he may be looking for someone with a similar one to him so that he can recruit

Atrahal, on 13 March 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

I'm reading up your worshipfulness, if ye be here.

My profusiest of apologies for my lack of posting after the first one, but my calligraphy pen broke and I was unable to write more communiques until after it had been put back together. Right now, I will read up all these various messages which have reached us in the meantime.


With this response Korv may have spotted a potential recruit. Later on, just before he is lynched he mentions that his speciality is poetry, maybe to implicate Ruse or distance from Korvalian.


Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:

Omtose, on 13 March 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

I don't have much time to play until Friday. Having read up, the Rashan case does have merit, well as much merrit as any day one case.

Korvalain has also pinged my radar with his post saying he was ready to "whore himself out" (post #51)

I will be back in time for a vote. For now I will wait.



I think you mean post #42 (at least, that's what it says on my view), which is this:

Korvalain, on 13 March 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Well I guess I could whore myself out to earn a few extra bucks. Earn me a nice new cushion to sit on to make all this artsy stuff to sell.


So Omtose, why does this ping your radar? What could it mean in your opinion? A minister who's looking to be recruited? I can see that later in the game when it might look like town won't win, and some townies (scoundrel players) might be looking to switch to what they perceive to be a winning side, but on day 1 I don't see it.


I actually quite like the Karosis case - it's exactly the kind of thing I'd normally vote on on day 1 if I hadn't already made my own thing


Another reason he may have recruited him is because he seemed to do a good job of rubbishing Omtose case day one.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 26 March 2012 - 02:09 PM

[D'riss]

I'm in a seminar all day so I can't do much. I agree with Rashan, and I think it's odd that everyone is avoiding Okaros, particularly Barghast for his comment when he was L2.
Can't quote right now but it was basically "everyone says they'd vote Okaros but no one does". Made me wonder why he didn't want to put a test vote out there to see if he could try and save himself. Anyways, they may all be scum, but I don't want to vote where we may take down an inno. I suspect we are running out of them.
Remove vote
Vote Okaros

[Tennes]

That is just a mess. Fucking work! Busy boy today!

[Tennes]

D, on 26 March 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

I'm in a seminar all day so I can't do much. I agree with Rashan, and I think it's odd that everyone is avoiding Okaros, particularly Barghast for his comment when he was L2.
Can't quote right now but it was basically "everyone says they'd vote Okaros but no one does". Made me wonder why he didn't want to put a test vote out there to see if he could try and save himself. Anyways, they may all be scum, but I don't want to vote where we may take down an inno. I suspect we are running out of them.
Remove vote
Vote Okaros

You said the same about Ruse. In fact you keep saying similar things. You were saying them about Tellan as well a few days back. It's lazy, rather than look for connections or build a case your just basically creating a post that says, "well people have mentioned this player a lot but nothing has happened so vote this player". By my estimate near enough every single player finds Rashan scummy yet no one is voting for him. So he must be scum.



Remove Vote



Vote Rashan



My point being is that I see the case on Ruse even if I don't believe in it. I can vote off Okaros and Ruse and whoever else was on the Omtose train including myself but I think it is lazy trying to go off one train rather than analyse the posts and interactions throughout the game. That is the reason I don't think I can build a Korvalian case right now because there just isn't enough time to look at his interactions in much detail.

Remove Vote

I can vote for Okaros because I have absolutely no read on him. He has stayed or should I say she has stayed well behind the scenes and could easily be a low posting cultist but I am doubtful.

[D'riss]

Yes Tennes, I'm playing on a cell phone from a conference. I'm being lazy. Do whatever, I'll check back during lunch.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6



21 hours left in the day.

14 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

6 votes Ruse: Barghast, Kalse, Tellan, Ruse, Tennes, Omtose
2 votes Okaros: Rashan, D'riss


Players not voting: Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Silanah

Sorry, missed Sil's removal somewhere along the line.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 March 2012 - 02:16 PM