[Kalse]

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

Clearly, we have two different ways of going about this game, so you do yours and I'll do mine.

One of the 2 players you have excluded as a possibility for voting today would have it done differently. His way only. Does that not strike you as scummy? Maybe not to you, but it does to me. Maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree here, i don't know, but it's what I have to go on at the moment, and where I feel is the best opportunity to get a recruiter.

[Atrahal]

Kalse, on 14 March 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

Not much happening while I was gone. I'm happy with my vote for the moment. While I see alkends point, that scum are usually more reserved than Karosis has displayed this game, I don't find that to be an arument that should be whole relied upon. As Olar points out, generally the player dictates how a certain role will be played. Not vice versa. I am not so sold on my vote that I wouldn't be willing to switch in order to get a lynch. But at the present time, I am happy with my vote. i'll only be checking in every 2 hrs or so from here on out as i come available. I'm very busy tonight, but i'll do my best to check in and hopefully, but not likely be able to be on right before deadline.

I'm not arguing that players suddenly change completely how they play when they get a certain role. Thread leaders will still be thread leaders, low posters will low post, etc. I'm saying that the content of those posts might subtly change. Look over any game and I bet you will often find that some of the most sensible-sounding or careful posts will have been written by a member of the scum team. As I already said a few times, that's in general, not always. I'm not describing here a 100% fool-proof thing, nowhere near, but I do believe it's a viable strategy to employ when looking for scum, ESPECIALLY early on in the game when scum don't tend to get involved as much as they do closer to endgame.

And as I already said to Rashan, everyone can go about their own way of doing things, I was simply giving my explanation for why I think I probably wouldn't vote Karosis today.

Of course, if it came down to it and Karosis is the only viable lynch, I will switch. I just wouldn't be confident.

[Atrahal]

Kalse, on 14 March 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

Clearly, we have two different ways of going about this game, so you do yours and I'll do mine.

One of the 2 players you have excluded as a possibility for voting today would have it done differently. His way only. Does that not strike you as scummy? Maybe not to you, but it does to me. Maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree here, i don't know, but it's what I have to go on at the moment, and where I feel is the best opportunity to get a recruiter.

Actually I would find someone being overly amiable more scummy at this early point in the game, to be honest.

[Omtose]

Korvalain, on 13 March 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Well I guess I could whore myself out to earn a few extra bucks. Earn me a nice new cushion to sit on to make all this artsy stuff to sell.

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Omtose, on 14 March 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

If there was some way to vote for all of you (but Sil) I would. What a spread! does everyone have a vote on them yet?

I have read and caught up (read the thread, then posted, what a novel concept)

My mention of Korvalain's post has gained some attention. But it seams to more sympish attention than any other.

So at this point I will follow my Epmorer's lead and vote for Korvalain. That post made the radar ping, not very strong but, I will go with it for day 1.

Vote Korvalain

Sorry being a low poster, but I won't have time to play until Friday. Then I have 10 days to devote to the game.

Assuage my curiosity. Why did that post make your radar ping?


Edit: spelling

It pinged the radar on a few levels.

1. It seamed you are asking to be recruited.

2. There is a seperation between selling your arts and selling yourself.

3. Could be read as miss direction. "how could I be a recruiter if I am asking to be recuited."


Weak I know. But it just struck me wrong when I read it.

[Atrahal]

Omtose, on 14 March 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 March 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Well I guess I could whore myself out to earn a few extra bucks. Earn me a nice new cushion to sit on to make all this artsy stuff to sell.

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Omtose, on 14 March 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

If there was some way to vote for all of you (but Sil) I would. What a spread! does everyone have a vote on them yet?

I have read and caught up (read the thread, then posted, what a novel concept)

My mention of Korvalain's post has gained some attention. But it seams to more sympish attention than any other.

So at this point I will follow my Epmorer's lead and vote for Korvalain. That post made the radar ping, not very strong but, I will go with it for day 1.

Vote Korvalain

Sorry being a low poster, but I won't have time to play until Friday. Then I have 10 days to devote to the game.

Assuage my curiosity. Why did that post make your radar ping?


Edit: spelling

It pinged the radar on a few levels.

1. It seamed you are asking to be recruited.

2. There is a seperation between selling your arts and selling yourself.

3. Could be read as miss direction. "how could I be a recruiter if I am asking to be recuited."


Weak I know. But it just struck me wrong when I read it.

That's why I thought it struck you as odd. But, don't you see that seems a very odd thing to do on day 1? Presumably only (dirty traitorous) townies might ask to be recruited, but surely only in a desperate attempt to be on a winning side at the end of the game, not on day 1 when town are the biggest faction, no?

That's why it struck me as odd that that post struck you as odd.

I admit to the possibility of your point 3, though. However, it would seem weak at the best of times

[Atrahal]

By the way, Omtose, that looks dangerously almost like a list.....

[Omtose]

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

Omtose, on 14 March 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 March 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Well I guess I could whore myself out to earn a few extra bucks. Earn me a nice new cushion to sit on to make all this artsy stuff to sell.

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Omtose, on 14 March 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

If there was some way to vote for all of you (but Sil) I would. What a spread! does everyone have a vote on them yet?

I have read and caught up (read the thread, then posted, what a novel concept)

My mention of Korvalain's post has gained some attention. But it seams to more sympish attention than any other.

So at this point I will follow my Epmorer's lead and vote for Korvalain. That post made the radar ping, not very strong but, I will go with it for day 1.

Vote Korvalain

Sorry being a low poster, but I won't have time to play until Friday. Then I have 10 days to devote to the game.

Assuage my curiosity. Why did that post make your radar ping?


Edit: spelling

It pinged the radar on a few levels.

1. It seamed you are asking to be recruited.

2. There is a seperation between selling your arts and selling yourself.

3. Could be read as miss direction. "how could I be a recruiter if I am asking to be recuited."


Weak I know. But it just struck me wrong when I read it.

That's why I thought it struck you as odd. But, don't you see that seems a very odd thing to do on day 1? Presumably only (dirty traitorous) townies might ask to be recruited, but surely only in a desperate attempt to be on a winning side at the end of the game, not on day 1 when town are the biggest faction, no?

That's why it struck me as odd that that post struck you as odd.

I admit to the possibility of your point 3, though. However, it would seem weak at the best of times

Like I said weak.

But it is just the right seed post to place early in the game.

As is I'm not seeing anything much more convincing in any other case's at the moment.

I will be back in a few hours to read up before work. If there is anthing better, case wise I will change my vote.

[Omtose]

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

By the way, Omtose, that looks dangerously almost like a list.....

IT'S NOT A LIST!!!!.... just a general suming up...

[Rashan]

I see your point, didn't mean to stomp on your opinion.

Kalse, on 14 March 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

Not much happening while I was gone. I'm happy with my vote for the moment. While I see alkends point, that scum are usually more reserved than Karosis has displayed this game, I don't find that to be an arument that should be whole relied upon. As Olar points out, generally the player dictates how a certain role will be played. Not vice versa. I am not so sold on my vote that I wouldn't be willing to switch in order to get a lynch. But at the present time, I am happy with my vote. i'll only be checking in every 2 hrs or so from here on out as i come available. I'm very busy tonight, but i'll do my best to check in and hopefully, but not likely be able to be on right before deadline.

You're bad at alts. Is alkend even playing?

[Atrahal]

Rashan, on 14 March 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

I see your point, didn't mean to stomp on your opinion.

Kalse, on 14 March 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

Not much happening while I was gone. I'm happy with my vote for the moment. While I see alkends point, that scum are usually more reserved than Karosis has displayed this game, I don't find that to be an arument that should be whole relied upon. As Olar points out, generally the player dictates how a certain role will be played. Not vice versa. I am not so sold on my vote that I wouldn't be willing to switch in order to get a lynch. But at the present time, I am happy with my vote. i'll only be checking in every 2 hrs or so from here on out as i come available. I'm very busy tonight, but i'll do my best to check in and hopefully, but not likely be able to be on right before deadline.

You're bad at alts. Is alkend even playing?

Yeah, I saw he'd misidentified (that's not a word, is it?) me, but decided to ignore the rudeness of that

[Atrahal]

Omtose, on 14 March 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

By the way, Omtose, that looks dangerously almost like a list.....

IT'S NOT A LIST!!!!.... just a general suming up...

a SUMMARY eh?!

[Okaros]

Well, a lot has been said, and it looks like there are a few cases that can be followed up next day, which is promising.

In terms of the cases made, I dislike pretty much anything going of 'gut' this early in the game. The case on Serc could be promising if we had more to go off, and I would like to hear his defence of it. I would also like to hear more from Liosan about his summarising, and I agree with whoever said it before, that if it continues tomorrow it merits a further look. I'm honestly not seeing much in the case against Korvalain. I don't remember what made up the case against Mockra, and I don't have time to do a proper reread until the weekend.

So for now I'm happy with my vote on Karosis. I know some people think he is being too directional to be scum, but I can't help thinking back to the newb game when Gust Hubb led everyone around the whole game. I'm willing to change if it means the lynch, but I should be around at the end of day so I'm leaving it there for now.

[Emurlahn]

I'm going to bed.

remove vote
vote Karosis


Right now that is the lynch that seems the most likely to happen.

[Atrahal]

Okaros, on 14 March 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

Well, a lot has been said, and it looks like there are a few cases that can be followed up next day, which is promising.

In terms of the cases made, I dislike pretty much anything going of 'gut' this early in the game. The case on Serc could be promising if we had more to go off, and I would like to hear his defence of it. I would also like to hear more from Liosan about his summarising, and I agree with whoever said it before, that if it continues tomorrow it merits a further look. I'm honestly not seeing much in the case against Korvalain. I don't remember what made up the case against Mockra, and I don't have time to do a proper reread until the weekend.

So for now I'm happy with my vote on Karosis. I know some people think he is being too directional to be scum, but I can't help thinking back to the newb game when Gust Hubb led everyone around the whole game. I'm willing to change if it means the lynch, but I should be around at the end of day so I'm leaving it there for now.

I agree with pretty much everything except the bit in bold. So you would prefer to go on gut LATE in a game?


Edit: 'gut' not 'guy'

This post has been edited by Atrahal: 14 March 2012 - 10:34 PM

[Silanah]

Only 2.5 hours left in Day 1 and still no lynch? Surprising... Normally we get lynches easily on Day 1...
OK. A Korvalain lynch seems unlikely, a Karosis lynch seems likely with about half the votes needed already on him. I see no other option for a lynch that we can pull together in 2.5 hours so, sorry Karosis...
Vote Karosis

[Atrahal]

Silanah, on 14 March 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Only 2.5 hours left in Day 1 and still no lynch? Surprising... Normally we get lynches easily on Day 1...
OK. A Korvalain lynch seems unlikely, a Karosis lynch seems likely with about half the votes needed already on him. I see no other option for a lynch that we can pull together in 2.5 hours so, sorry Karosis...
Vote Karosis

Do you need to remove your vote?

[Okaros]

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Okaros, on 14 March 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

Well, a lot has been said, and it looks like there are a few cases that can be followed up next day, which is promising.

In terms of the cases made, I dislike pretty much anything going of 'gut' this early in the game. The case on Serc could be promising if we had more to go off, and I would like to hear his defence of it. I would also like to hear more from Liosan about his summarising, and I agree with whoever said it before, that if it continues tomorrow it merits a further look. I'm honestly not seeing much in the case against Korvalain. I don't remember what made up the case against Mockra, and I don't have time to do a proper reread until the weekend.

So for now I'm happy with my vote on Karosis. I know some people think he is being too directional to be scum, but I can't help thinking back to the newb game when Gust Hubb led everyone around the whole game. I'm willing to change if it means the lynch, but I should be around at the end of day so I'm leaving it there for now.

I agree with pretty much everything except the bit in bold. So you would prefer to go on guy LATE in a game?

Nope, I never said that. While I dislike anything that goes on gut, I think it is understandable that people have gut suspicions later in the game, and those can be used to go back and find out what made you suspicious in the first place. What I meant was dislike anyone talking about gut feelings this early in the game, and I find it suspicious.

[Gamelon]

I keep mixing up Korvalain and Karosis. FML

[Silanah]

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

Silanah, on 14 March 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Only 2.5 hours left in Day 1 and still no lynch? Surprising... Normally we get lynches easily on Day 1...
OK. A Korvalain lynch seems unlikely, a Karosis lynch seems likely with about half the votes needed already on him. I see no other option for a lynch that we can pull together in 2.5 hours so, sorry Karosis...
Vote Karosis

Do you need to remove your vote?

Gah. Hate that.

Remove Vote
Vote Karosis

[Okaros]

Silanah, on 14 March 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Only 2.5 hours left in Day 1 and still no lynch? Surprising... Normally we get lynches easily on Day 1...
OK. A Korvalain lynch seems unlikely, a Karosis lynch seems likely with about half the votes needed already on him. I see no other option for a lynch that we can pull together in 2.5 hours so, sorry Karosis...
Vote Karosis

Also, I think there are about 4 hours left.