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#15881 User is online   Azath Vitr (D'ivers 

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Posted 22 January 2026 - 06:03 PM

View PostAbyss, on 22 January 2026 - 05:56 PM, said:

I also liked the part where he wanted them to pay $1 billion for the seat at the table.


But he's giving Putin a special deal: he can pay using frozen Russian assets.

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Posted 22 January 2026 - 07:00 PM

@the broken

Federal authorities have called those who monitor ICE 'domestic terrorists.' Here's what we know

https://www.cnn.com/...-federal-agents
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Posted 24 January 2026 - 07:34 PM

Fwiw Minnesota apparently pulled off a general strike on Friday:

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To call what's going on in Minnesota historic is an understatement. General strikes are extraordinarily rare in US history; there have only been a handful of general strikes, with individual states and even this is extraordinarily rare. This is a major step towards a national general strike, which has never happened in 250 years of this country's history. And if it happened, there aren't enough military cops or even National Guard personnel to push back. This is an extraordinarily good sign. Like, this didn't happen in Nazi Germany - they didn't have a general strike. You need to be hopeful because I've never seen this. I've been involved in politics for nearly 15 years, and I've never seen anything like it, not even during Occupy Wall Street or what happened with George Floyd. THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED IN 80 YEARS.

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Thousands march through downtown Minneapolis protesting against ICE as state workers hold general strike - CBS News

But it's hard to imagine a general strike lasting long enough or extending across enough of the country to actually inspire Congress or Trump's cabinet to remove him, or get Trump to back down, or (if/when Trump purges the military of people who aren't corrupt) the military removing him.

ICE and the military can still crack down much harder than they have. In terms of detaining, shooting, and murdering more people. Not sure how many Americans would still be out protesting in the streets if they were getting shot in the legs or murdered en masse.

Here's a video of the shooting today:


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Posted 24 January 2026 - 08:45 PM

I see ICE are spot-executing citizens again.

Where are the 2nds menmint muh tyranny bros?
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Posted 24 January 2026 - 09:05 PM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 24 January 2026 - 08:45 PM, said:

I see ICE are spot-executing citizens again.

Where are the 2nds menmint muh tyranny bros?


That's just it... it's their tyranny. That they approve of. And that some of them are doing. Or may want to join in on if/when the civil war they've been craving starts.

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For decades, the far-right, anti-government militia groups have operated in the shadows, but a former FBI agent who worked undercover is warning that everything has changed since President Donald Trump took over.

[...] While the militia groups once fought the government as "jackbooted" feds, they're now on the president's side.

How Trump made the far-right love the government: ex-FBI agent - Alternet.org


Conservatives who once railed against federal agents now support them - The Washington Post
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Posted 24 January 2026 - 09:44 PM

Just wanted to say that what is going on in Minnesota right now is deplorable, and thank Tapper for bringing the thread back on subject.

I know people are angry right now but jumping down people's throats is not what this forum has ever been about. Please refrain from personal attacks.

BK I hope you continue to add your valuable perspective to the thread.

I found it interesting to hear about what is being shared on right wing social media and the justifiable scepticism you had towards it. I definitely think some foreign actors are working to polarise people on both sides sadly.

I do hope some of what is going on now cuts through the noise and returns some sanity to America. Shooting innocent people on the street and threatening allies is clearly not what most Americans want.
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Posted 25 January 2026 - 12:28 AM

We are getting closer to midnight. The dam cannot hold much longer. I don’t know how anyone can condone this.
Trump keeps spouting insurrection for a reason. He wants selective martial law and that cannot be allowed.
That must be the moment for all good men to come to the aid of their nation.
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Posted 25 January 2026 - 01:17 AM

Another straight up murder. They're not even bothering to try to hide it anymore.
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Posted 25 January 2026 - 05:18 AM

Can't remember if I've mentioned it but one of my author pals, Lucas (Pederson, in case you want to look him up) was writing a book called 'America Dark', which was meant to be a dark look into the future where fascism took over the US. He gave up on it because what actually happened was so much worse than he could picture. I think the reality kind of gut-punched him. And what snippets he'd previewed were already PLENTY bleak.

It terrifies me that our far right seem to want to use what's going on over there as a template.
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Posted 25 January 2026 - 08:06 PM

If he can't picture anything worse than the modern US, then historical fascism must be very surprising.

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Federal authorities have called those who monitor ICE 'domestic terrorists.' Here's what we know



So who is collating all this to find the missing people?

BK ended up being right, Greenland was nothing in the end.
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Posted 25 January 2026 - 09:37 PM

And Mango Mussolini has posted "only criminals carry guns" which should make a number of 2A nutjob heads explode.

There's a darkly funny irony there because I can definitely see Republican and MAGA types not ditching him because he's a pedo, or because he's a fascist or a rapist or any of the other things he definitely is, but they might because he said that only criminals carry guns.
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Posted 25 January 2026 - 10:05 PM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 25 January 2026 - 09:37 PM, said:

And Mango Mussolini has posted "only criminals carry guns" which should make a number of 2A nutjob heads explode.

There's a darkly funny irony there because I can definitely see Republican and MAGA types not ditching him because he's a pedo, or because he's a fascist or a rapist or any of the other things he definitely is, but they might because he said that only criminals carry guns.


I dunno. Much as I'd like to believe it I'm seeing references saying that post to Truth Social is a mockup.
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Posted 26 January 2026 - 12:54 AM

That fucko nazi SS wannabe Bovino is already saying that the 2nd A doesn’t apply here…and he has no reason…so he’s just pissing out of his mouth.

Abolish ICE is now the moderate position.

PROSECUTE ICE is the new extremity.
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Posted 26 January 2026 - 06:28 PM

With regard to anything after 2028: how much change can this Democratic Party really bring? All I see and read is Schumer and Jeffries sticking to politics as usual, with only token resistance. If all they try to do is dial the clock back to 2020, they’ll lose anything they might gain in the 2026 mid terms and 2028 elections.

Edit: I know there is a blue wave in lower political circles (school boards etc) as well. I think those are driven by idealistic people who see the need for change. That is something that I cannot truly see on a national level, from my news sources, at the least. What’s the Democrat plan? What is the hope, what is the expectation?

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Posted 26 January 2026 - 07:17 PM

View PostTapper, on 26 January 2026 - 06:28 PM, said:

With regard to anything after 2028: how much change can this Democratic Party really bring? All I see and read is Schumer and Jeffries sticking to politics as usual, with only token resistance. If all they try to do is dial the clock back to 2020, they'll lose anything they might gain in the 2026 mid terms and 2028 elections.

Edit: I know there is a blue wave in lower political circles (school boards etc) as well. I think those are driven by idealistic people who see the need for change. That is something that I cannot truly see on a national level, from my news sources, at the least. What's the Democrat plan? What is the hope, what is the expectation?


"What's the Democrat plan?"

sorry Tapper, but i've got some really really bad news for you.
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Posted 26 January 2026 - 07:27 PM

"Biden beat Trump, lets try that again!"

That's the most likely Democrat plan...
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Posted 26 January 2026 - 08:15 PM

View PostAbyss, on 26 January 2026 - 07:17 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 26 January 2026 - 06:28 PM, said:

With regard to anything after 2028: how much change can this Democratic Party really bring? All I see and read is Schumer and Jeffries sticking to politics as usual, with only token resistance. If all they try to do is dial the clock back to 2020, they'll lose anything they might gain in the 2026 mid terms and 2028 elections.

Edit: I know there is a blue wave in lower political circles (school boards etc) as well. I think those are driven by idealistic people who see the need for change. That is something that I cannot truly see on a national level, from my news sources, at the least. What's the Democrat plan? What is the hope, what is the expectation?


"What's the Democrat plan?"

sorry Tapper, but i've got some really really bad news for you.


American Votes are not the most proactive or informed.

Trump Won because he wasn't Hillary
Biden won because he wasn't Trump
Trump won because he wasn't Biden
Democrat strategy is someone will win because he Isn't Trump. At least there will be a primary this time.
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Posted 26 January 2026 - 09:28 PM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 26 January 2026 - 07:27 PM, said:

"Biden beat Trump, lets try that again!"

That's the most likely Democrat plan...



Of course they have a plan. They saw Zohran Mamdani win an important race by speaking from a leftist perspective to issues important to his electorate, so the party machinery will do everything in the power to prevent that kind of thing happening more widely.
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Posted 27 January 2026 - 03:06 PM

https://edition.cnn....y-olympics-intl

Trump being like "I want my personal secret police Gestapo to be on site for the Olympics in ITALY"...should be SO much more insane news than it's being treated...why are we acting like it's okay for a US president to send US secret police into a foreign country like it's nothing?

The US should be banned from the Olympics over this. Send a message to this orange turd that this shit is not going to fly in other countries....
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Posted 27 January 2026 - 03:35 PM

View Postpolishgenius, on 26 January 2026 - 09:28 PM, said:

View PostTiste Simeon, on 26 January 2026 - 07:27 PM, said:

"Biden beat Trump, lets try that again!"

That's the most likely Democrat plan...



Of course they have a plan. They saw Zohran Mamdani win an important race by speaking from a leftist perspective to issues important to his electorate, so the party machinery will do everything in the power to prevent that kind of thing happening more widely.


the search for the next old white business male dem candidate is positively raging as we speak.
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