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Posted 10 January 2026 - 07:13 PM

We are reaching the pivotal moment. The republican house majority is now temporarily weakened to the point that they have a 1 vote margin of error. The cowards who left or were forced from office (MTG etc) are finding they can speak out about disagreements. The Epstein scandal is still there. Venezuela is not gonna boost his numbers (oil execs said it’s not worth investing in). ICE is becoming a problem for republicans too. We are now 6 months? Less? From being fully in midterm elections. The Republican Party will have to break from some of his craziness to stand a chance of retaining some seats. If they lose the house and senate Trumps policies will never again see the light of day again except for executive orders which will be severely blunted.

So within the next six months we will see significant improvement or we will see a rapid slide to chaos towards another Jan 6th.
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Posted 10 January 2026 - 08:24 PM

View PostCause, on 10 January 2026 - 07:13 PM, said:

We are reaching the pivotal moment. The republican house majority is now temporarily weakened to the point that they have a 1 vote margin of error. The cowards who left or were forced from office (MTG etc) are finding they can speak out about disagreements. The Epstein scandal is still there. Venezuela is not gonna boost his numbers (oil execs said it's not worth investing in). ICE is becoming a problem for republicans too. We are now 6 months? Less? From being fully in midterm elections. The Republican Party will have to break from some of his craziness to stand a chance of retaining some seats. If they lose the house and senate Trumps policies will never again see the light of day again except for executive orders which will be severely blunted.

So within the next six months we will see significant improvement or we will see a rapid slide to chaos towards another Jan 6th.


... except now Trump has purged much of the US military and federal law enforcement, and has ICE ready to be deployed to brutally detain and murder more protesters... one big question is whether he's purged enough of the military and federal law enforcement for a successful auto-coup, and---if there are mass resignations---how functional the government would be afterwards.

So maybe a bit like January 6th, but it's the military and federal law enforcement---and militarized ICE---doing it...
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Posted 10 January 2026 - 08:38 PM

And ICE may end up not just detaining protesters---at least anyone who doesn't have armed bodyguards will probably be relatively easy for them to abduct. (Not sure how much training or experience ICE would have with armed resistance---there have only been a few alleged instances of people shooting at ICE.)

And if Trump's military forces can abduct Maduro, they can probably abduct just about anyone inside the United States, provided Trump's found people to promote who are willing to do it (at least if he's found others to threaten their lives and their families)...

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Posted 12 January 2026 - 01:35 AM

https://www.cnbc.com...-probe-nyt.html

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Posted 12 January 2026 - 03:11 AM

View PostLady Bliss, on 10 January 2026 - 05:12 PM, said:

Should we rename this thread to the Post Apocalyptic US thread?



'America 2025' kind of has a neat sf ring to it.
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Posted 12 January 2026 - 08:05 AM

View PostAbyss, on 12 January 2026 - 03:11 AM, said:

View PostLady Bliss, on 10 January 2026 - 05:12 PM, said:

Should we rename this thread to the Post Apocalyptic US thread?



'America Project 2025' kind of has a neat sf dystopian ring to it.


FTFY :p
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Posted 12 January 2026 - 11:35 AM

View PostCause, on 12 January 2026 - 01:35 AM, said:



And US bonds... but gold is going to the moon.

And when it does, CAOS will hatch from where the moon once was...

I'm reminded of a Buddhist parable:

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View PostLady Bliss, on 10 January 2026 - 05:12 PM, said:

Should we rename this thread to the Post Apocalyptic US thread?


'America 2025' kind of has a neat sf ring to it.


More like "America: 1776-2025".

It seems fitting that the American Republic should end on its semiquincentennial. (250th birthday, that is.)

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Posted 12 January 2026 - 02:18 PM

This video fucking broke me. This poor kid. 17 years old, Target employee, is a US citizen AND had his passport on him (he was prepared for this eventuality with his skin colour probably)...and he offered to show them and they didn't care....they took him, beat the shit out of him, and then dumped him off...

That cry is the "I want my mom" cry and it broke me. As a parent it activated my parent gene and I want to hug the kid and hide him from them AND see those ICE agents get the ever-loving crap beat out of them...How much longer is this going to go on?

They re breaking down people's doors now and taking them without warrants....Walz needs to activate the National Guard against ICE doing illegal shit...like it's time to stop talking about it and warning about it Tim and fucking do it.

https://www.youtube....rts/Qx9gEXhh8Yk

If this video doesn't enrage you, then your empathy is gone.

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Posted 12 January 2026 - 02:45 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 12 January 2026 - 02:18 PM, said:

This video fucking broke me. This poor kid. 17 years old, Target employee, is a US citizen AND had his passport on him (he was prepared for this eventuality with his skin colour probably)...and he offered to show them and they didn't care....they took him, beat the shit out of him, and then dumped him off...

That cry is the "I want my mom" cry and it broke me. As a parent it activated my parent gene and I want to hug the kid and hide him from them AND see those ICE agents get the ever-loving crap beat out of them...How much longer is this going to go on?

They re breaking down people's doors now and taking them without warrants....Walz needs to activate the National Guard against ICE doing illegal shit...like it's time to stop talking about it and warning about it Tim and fucking do it.

https://www.youtube....rts/Qx9gEXhh8Yk

If this video doesn't enrage you, then your empathy is gone.


According to Minnesota Rep. Michael Howard:

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federal agents, including Greg Bovino, senior commander of US Border Patrol, entered Target without a warrant, physically assaulted, and arrested two Target employees, both who are U.S. citizens.

Madness.

They have now been released, but sustained injuries and untold trauma while their rights were trampled for no reason whatsoever.

If this doesn't make your blood boil, I don't know what will.

https://www.house.mn...ews/15518/41103

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Posted 12 January 2026 - 02:50 PM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 12 January 2026 - 02:45 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 12 January 2026 - 02:18 PM, said:

This video fucking broke me. This poor kid. 17 years old, Target employee, is a US citizen AND had his passport on him (he was prepared for this eventuality with his skin colour probably)...and he offered to show them and they didn't care....they took him, beat the shit out of him, and then dumped him off...

That cry is the "I want my mom" cry and it broke me. As a parent it activated my parent gene and I want to hug the kid and hide him from them AND see those ICE agents get the ever-loving crap beat out of them...How much longer is this going to go on?

They re breaking down people's doors now and taking them without warrants....Walz needs to activate the National Guard against ICE doing illegal shit...like it's time to stop talking about it and warning about it Tim and fucking do it.

https://www.youtube....rts/Qx9gEXhh8Yk

If this video doesn't enrage you, then your empathy is gone.


According to Minnesota Rep. Michael Howard:

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federal agents, including Greg Bovino, senior commander of US Border Patrol, entered Target without a warrant, physically assaulted, and arrested two Target employees, both who are U.S. citizens.

Madness.

They have now been released, but sustained injuries and untold trauma while their rights were trampled for no reason whatsoever.

If this doesn't make your blood boil, I don't know what will.

https://www.house.mn...ews/15518/41103



We have some Maple MAGA at my work, and I SO want to show them the video and see how dead their empathy is for a kid who cries out like that. but I have a feeling it would land on deaf ears....I don't know how anyone could watch that and not be angry at what ICE is doing and how they are escalating.
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Posted 12 January 2026 - 04:27 PM

"wEll hE MUST haVe doNe SOMETHING to make Them SUSpicIous!!!"
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Posted 12 January 2026 - 05:06 PM

View PostAbyss, on 12 January 2026 - 04:27 PM, said:

"wEll hE MUST haVe doNe SOMETHING to make Them SUSpicIous!!!"


The fucking Kavanaugh Stop. abhorrent
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Posted 12 January 2026 - 07:13 PM

Were definitely not far from it just being stated as "being non-white in public" It happened in 1930s Germany and it's going to happen here.
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Posted 12 January 2026 - 07:34 PM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 12 January 2026 - 07:13 PM, said:

Were definitely not far from it just being stated as "being non-white in public" It happened in 1930s Germany and it's going to happen here.


I think Minnesota is not far from protesters no matter their skin colour being kidnapped and arrested. I think Trump has chosen Min as the place he wants to kick off into martial law (which I mean, it's mostly there already, but you get my point) so he can cancel the midterms and force people to stay in their homes ect....like this feels especially targeted to me...made an example of as it were...

It sounds like Noem sent way more agents there than she needs not the state now, you've got like 4-5stacks of these ICE chuds in their cosplay tech vests going after singular individuals...and that Bovino midget? He's lording over it like he's Goebbels.
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Posted 12 January 2026 - 09:19 PM

It still blows me away that, in the US of all places — land of guns and home of the supposed brave — people haven't been tearing into ICE with bullets. I wouldn't condone it, but can anyone explain this?

And I don't buy "well all the 2A, don't-tread-on-me folks are either in ICE or pro-ICE" argument

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Posted 12 January 2026 - 11:03 PM

I mean not all of them, sure

But a lot of them probably are
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Posted 12 January 2026 - 11:11 PM

the vocal ones w the guns support ICE. and are mostly white males ICE won't pay any attention to except for free beer.

the quiet ones w the guns aren't dumb enough to open fire on ICE, that's just asking to be legally murdered in broad daylight.
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Posted 13 January 2026 - 01:28 AM

Someone tried, and accidentally killed two immigrants instead.


Six fatal shootings involving ICE since Jan 2025. More armed confrontations would not improve matters.

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Posted 13 January 2026 - 01:42 AM

View PostWhisperzzzzzzz, on 12 January 2026 - 09:19 PM, said:

It still blows me away that, in the US of all places — land of guns and home of the supposed brave — people haven't been tearing into ICE with bullets. I wouldn't condone it, but can anyone explain this?

And I don't buy "well all the 2A, don't-tread-on-me folks are either in ICE or pro-ICE" argument


Society works because on a level hardwired into us the majority of people don’t condone and can’t imagine themselves committing murder.
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Posted 13 January 2026 - 06:52 AM

And would (in their twisted universe) justify to Maga why ICE need to roll in tactical gear armed to the teeth to arrest women and children.

General strikes.
Mass walk outside
Shut the country down.
Lock ICE out of your cities.
Any and all legal recourse governors have to call in the gaurd.


All of this
Right now

Or say hello to your next political rally by the orange one being held in Nuremburg
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