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#15181 User is offline   glasseye 

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Posted 25 April 2025 - 11:37 AM

 Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

if the richest man in America literally says America is about to be broke..why is so hard to maybe believe him for one moment of reality. Maybe no motive just truth..


Difficult to believe because it is economically illiterate. The US controls its own currency, so is always able to avoid going broke.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 03:46 PM

Why are you all feeding Nico again? You know none of this is in good faith.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 04:27 PM

Careful guys or you might get a PM telling you to stop responding because he doesn't like what you have to say like I did.

The game is that they get to air out every claim they want, with no specifics, with no fact-checking, with bullshit sources when they do cite one, and then cry FAKE NEWS, OUTRAGEOUS LIES, PERSONAL ATTACK when you call them on bullshit.

It's the Fox News/Alt Right "news" method that has worked so wonderfully well on so many people.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 04:42 PM

Board Tip: this option is available in the drop down menu at the top right if you're using a desktop. Not sure how you'd find it on mobile.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 04:55 PM

 worry, on 25 April 2025 - 04:42 PM, said:

Board Tip: this option is available in the drop down menu at the top right if you're using a desktop. Not sure how you'd find it on mobile.
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There's a link on mobile near the bottom of the page for "use full version". That'll do the trick.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 05:20 PM

 HoosierDaddy, on 25 April 2025 - 04:27 PM, said:

Careful guys or you might get a PM telling you to stop responding because he doesn't like what you have to say like I did.

The game is that they get to air out every claim they want, with no specifics, with no fact-checking, with bullshit sources when they do cite one, and then cry FAKE NEWS, OUTRAGEOUS LIES, PERSONAL ATTACK when you call them on bullshit.

It's the Fox News/Alt Right "news" method that has worked so wonderfully well on so many people.

This is exactly it. Nico doesn't care about facts or the truth or what is actually coming. He cares about spewing Russian propaganda masquerading as nationalist BS and then playing the victim when everyone points out how moronic he is.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 07:12 PM

Moving back to politics on a state and federal level, the US Attorneys handling the federal case vs New York's congestion pricing have shot themselves in the foot several times with this memo and their response to that accidental disclosure.

https://www.cbsnews....epartment-memo/

I've been able to go to NYC a couple times since implementation and it's almost magical in terms of reduced traffic and people happiness. Extremely impressive program.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 07:41 PM

 amphibian, on 25 April 2025 - 07:12 PM, said:

Moving back to politics on a state and federal level, the US Attorneys handling the federal case vs New York's congestion pricing have shot themselves in the foot several times with this memo and their response to that accidental disclosure.

https://www.cbsnews....epartment-memo/

I've been able to go to NYC a couple times since implementation and it's almost magical in terms of reduced traffic and people happiness. Extremely impressive program.


The last I had heard of this before a couple of days ago, it had been shut down unexpectedly by the governor shortly before it was to begin. I was listening to the Daily podcast about it probably more than 6 months ago and it seemed like it had been well researched, funded, and ready for implementation when it suddenly got shut down.

Do you know when it actually started and what explanation was given for the delay/pause and then implementation?
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 09:02 PM

Fbi arresting a judge is another worrying escalation. It could have a chilling effect on the judiciary but I think it may backfire in their face.

Given what we know of this administration my first thought is to assume a sitting judge did not break the law.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 09:10 PM

NY percolated a congestion pricing deal for maybe 2008-2019 with a couple mayors and a couple governors throwing out various proposals. In 2019, major action on a plan happened and a deal was made. Trump hated it and tried to stop it in early 2020, it was put on pause because of the pandemic, and then when Biden was in office, the approval processes moved forward.

A bunch of lawsuits and public comment periods happened - kinda like forging ahead through thick brush on a hike. Implementation needed a year or so to get ready and that was done. The problem with all of this was that the delays had put the final implementation of the congestion pricing at a politically sensitive window for trying to get a Democratic Congressional majority and to retain a strong Democratic state legislature. Some people were really upset in public ways about essentially having their free lunch of being able to live outside the city and drive in for an extremely low price (New Jersey, Long Island, Westchester, and nearby places).

So the Hochul pause was put in place to get through the elections and to lessen the costs of the initial set of prices. The elections happened, then the pause was taken off, which let the real world experience pretty much convince most people that it's amazing.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 09:24 PM

One down, hundreds to go ...

Disgraced US politician George Santos jailed for 7 years
The Republican was expelled from the US Congress for using stolen donor cash to bankroll designer suits, Botox and porn subscriptions.

https://www.news.com...18b8002aed48410
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 11:10 PM

 Tsundoku, on 25 April 2025 - 09:24 PM, said:

One down, hundreds to go ...

Disgraced US politician George Santos jailed for 7 years
The Republican was expelled from the US Congress for using stolen donor cash to bankroll designer suits, Botox and porn subscriptions.

https://www.news.com...18b8002aed48410

He'll be pardoned shortly no doubt.
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Posted 25 April 2025 - 11:39 PM

 Tiste Simeon, on 25 April 2025 - 11:10 PM, said:

 Tsundoku, on 25 April 2025 - 09:24 PM, said:

One down, hundreds to go ...

Disgraced US politician George Santos jailed for 7 years
The Republican was expelled from the US Congress for using stolen donor cash to bankroll designer suits, Botox and porn subscriptions.

https://www.news.com...18b8002aed48410

He'll be pardoned shortly no doubt.


Probably. He's an amateur compared with the traitors in the WH.

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The world is not worried enough about the Trump administration’s flouting of American laws
The evidence is mounting. Donald Trump’s pattern of behaviour is now impossible to miss. And the world might be sleepwalking into another crisis.

https://www.news.com...9bc9db70106a28f
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Posted 26 April 2025 - 02:08 PM

https://time.com/728...ew-transcript/#

Donald’s trump 100 day interview with Time magazine

Frightening. Lies, confusion and stupidity. It’s obvious he is now out of his depth.
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Posted 27 April 2025 - 09:16 AM

@Cause
Trump keeps on finding new depths in his swamp-turned-open sewer.

In other news, opinion piece quoting Europeans and others regarding the new world order, upending what we have known since the end of WW2.

Caution: take Michael Pezzullo's opinion with a grain of salt. He was sacked for multiple breaches of the Australian (Federal, not State) Public Service code of conduct. Known conservative apologist.

Why the world as we know it may never be the same
As Trump looks to implement a New World Order, experts have warned that humanity as we know it may “never look the same”.

https://www.news.com...1c62e9b200e1ced

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 27 April 2025 - 09:17 AM

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 01:40 PM

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 08:40 PM

So Kash Patel apparently tweeted the perp walk of an (illegal) arrest of a Wisconsin judge for not handing over someone his FBI wanted to disappear. Then deleted it. This may have violated the rules on such things.

FBI Chief Kash Patel's 'Judge Arrested In Migrant Case' Post Vanishes From X
The Trump administration has accused the sitting Judge of a federal court of allegedly "helping" the migrant. The judge's arrest comes amid growing struggle between the government and the judiciary in America.

https://www.ndtv.com...-from-x-8257636

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As usual, the people you'd think would be up in arms about "gummermint overreach!" - crickets.

EDIT: Snopes says it's true.

https://www.snopes.c...fbi-kash-patel/

I think this is a related one, not sure

https://www.facebook...89791793176849/

Let's hope he remembers that one at his trial.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 27 April 2025 - 10:26 PM

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Posted 01 May 2025 - 03:27 AM

I’m surprised Trump hasn’t gone after comedians like Jon Stewart yet…
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Posted 01 May 2025 - 01:20 PM

View PostTsundoku, on 27 April 2025 - 08:40 PM, said:

So Kash Patel apparently tweeted the perp walk of an (illegal) arrest of a Wisconsin judge for not handing over someone his FBI wanted to disappear. Then deleted it. This may have violated the rules on such things.

FBI Chief Kash Patel's 'Judge Arrested In Migrant Case' Post Vanishes From X
The Trump administration has accused the sitting Judge of a federal court of allegedly "helping" the migrant. The judge's arrest comes amid growing struggle between the government and the judiciary in America.
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This should be terrifying for anyone in the US with half a brain.
They're arresting, a judge, who disagreed with him.
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