[Cause]

Trump is going to try dig his way out by painting the Fed chair as the enemy. Predictable.

Whats scary is he may be able to force him out and if the fed fails its duty as well the economic chaos will only get worse.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Lady Bliss, on 15 April 2025 - 01:28 PM, said:

We're scared.

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Sen[ator] Lisa Murkowski (R[epublican]-Alaska) opened up about her concerns [...] "We are all afraid."

"It's quite a statement. But we are in a time and a place where I certainly have not been here before."

https://www.yahoo.co...-165942457.html

Cause, on 17 April 2025 - 02:11 PM, said:

Trump is going to try dig his way out by painting the Fed chair as the enemy. Predictable.

Whats scary is he may be able to force him out and if the fed fails its duty as well the economic chaos will only get worse.

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"It would be a 'lunatics in charge of the asylum' moment," said Justin Wolfers, an economics professor at the University of Michigan, who predicted a shock to the system as big or even bigger than its reaction to Trump's massive new tariffs.

[...] "The Fed's credibility is the foundation of international faith in the dollar," said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a conservative economist and former head of the Congressional Budget Office. "An attempt to fire Powell would make the financial market fallout of 'Liberation Day' looks like child's play."

https://www.huffpost...4b027910a15fd45

Let Free-Dumb CA-OS ring! (And gold...)

According to a recent survey most investment managers now expect gold to be the top-performing asset for the next year. Of course it would have been better to get in on that earlier, and as the saying goes (in investing), "when everyone thinks alike, everyone is likely to be wrong."

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Trump has privately discussed firing Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell for months and talked about it with former Fed Governor Kevin Warsh, including the possibility of then selecting Warsh as Powell's replacement [...] Warsh has advised against trying to fire Powell, arguing that Trump should let the Fed chair complete his term without interference [...]Trump has not made a final decision about whether to try to fire Powell before his term ends, a matter that would likely be challenged all the way to the Supreme Court.

https://finance.yaho...-190734751.html

... and Powell would be expected to remain in office while the case is being litigated.

Or Trump could just have masked agents kidnap him at any time, take him out to the international waters in a helicopter, drop him, and say it was international relations.

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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has repeatedly cautioned White House officials that any attempt to fire Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell would risk destabilizing financial markets [...] "I don't think he'll do it but frankly this is a grenade with the pin pulled," said one person familiar with the situation, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly, [...] "so there are no guarantees."

[...] Under federal law, [...] the president can remove them only "for cause" — a term generally understood to mean misconduct or malfeasance. That restriction is meant to shield the body from political interference. But the Trump administration is currently challenging the constitutionality of similar limits on the president's authority to fire the heads of other independent agencies.

https://www.huffpost...4b027910a15fd45

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 17 April 2025 - 08:29 PM

[Lady Bliss]

Now I could be wrong here, but it’s my understanding that the treasury works for the government but the Fed actually doesn’t. I know in the workplace and the governors this is the case from my experience. I don’t think Trump can actually fire the fed chair.

[Tiste Simeon]

Lady Bliss, on 17 April 2025 - 08:51 PM, said:

Now I could be wrong here, but it’s my understanding that the treasury works for the government but the Fed actually doesn’t. I know in the workplace and the governors this is the case from my experience. I don’t think Trump can actually fire the fed chair.

I'm not sure that matters anymore.

[Lady Bliss]

Well I looked up and unlike the board of governors the chair is nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate for a 14 year term

[Tsundoku]

14 years? That's a weird number for a job contract. Where does that come from?

[Lady Bliss]

Who knows? The U.S. government is odd with terms like giving life long terms to the Supreme Court.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

 QuickTidal, on 17 April 2025 - 01:49 PM, said:

Yeah, there's another image nearby where trucks that have been parked at the prison are also parked at and it's a massive field that looks like ashes and detritus. A burn field?

Can you share this one? I'd seen the other image, which is from 2024 (prior to any US "shipments", so if it is bodies, it shows that the El Salvadorans have turned their purge into their own Holocaust), but not the one you describe.

Also, at least Kilmar has been shown alive and meeting with Van Hollen. I wonder how much they had to drug and threaten him to get him to toe the line.

This post has been edited by Whisperzzzzzzz: 18 April 2025 - 04:26 PM

[HoosierDaddy]

The sheer onslaught of negative things is just overwhelming.

I told my wife last night, who has owned a 22 pistol for as long as she's owned our home for self protection, that it's probably time I learn how to safely use that thing and she needs to take me to a range.

Not because I've become convinced its a needed thing for home safety, either.

I'm so vehemently anti-gun and yet.... I feel the need to learn how to use one has become more important than my desire and rationale for staying "pure" in my hatred for individual gun-ownership, especially pistols.

What a fucking shit-show this country is becoming.

I'm too old for this shit.

[QuickTidal]

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 18 April 2025 - 04:24 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 17 April 2025 - 01:49 PM, said:

Yeah, there's another image nearby where trucks that have been parked at the prison are also parked at and it's a massive field that looks like ashes and detritus. A burn field?

Can you share this one? I'd seen the other image, which is from 2024 (prior to any US "shipments", so if it is bodies, it shows that the El Salvadorans have turned their purge into their own Holocaust), but not the one you describe.

Also, at least Kilmar has been shown alive and meeting with Van Hollen. I wonder how much they had to drug and threaten him to get him to toe the line.

I’m so glad he’s alive and I was wrong about him already being deceased. I hope everyone who is wrongly imprisoned there is able to get home. Good on van hollen for not letting up.

For the other image, google up burn field el salvadaor. It’s nearby the site, northwest of it I think. It’s hard to miss if you’re zoomed in.

[Tsundoku]

Even conservative legal experts are deeply troubled by the Trump administration's BS:

‘Limitless power’: Conservative legal experts warn Donald Trump is breaking the law
Conservative legal experts have spoken out about Donald Trump’s latest actions, warning that he’s blatantly violating America’s laws.

https://www.news.com...fe1ed9acbd7d4de

[Tsundoku]

The orange turd shows his first sign of consistency - he doesn't respect his own Constitution, so why would he respect Ukraine's?

https://www.bbc.com/...es/c70znjwezd4o

It's blitheringly obvious he is controlled by Putin.

[Nicodimas]

I don't post too often , anytime I do the left try to dismiss, call me a dummy and the like. Gets old..so ignore me if you dont like what I bring to table..just notate and move on. Simple simple thing.

However the most insane crazy thing to watch over time is their will be federal programs costs.. singularly.like Medicaid that will cost more than all tax receipts. That's reality and you literally show them cost tables yet they fail to grasp medical costs. (Yes we can lower it by 80 percent tomorrow , but they just don't listen)

Or if we wanted to calm inflation we would need to raise interest rates higher which would raise cost more than the total tax receipts.

These simple facts just blow past logical conversations too. Kinda sad.Im enjoying them stripping parts of the govt down. Small droplets compared to the future for sure. This sets the tone for what's coming....if the richest man in America literally says America is about to be broke..why is so hard to maybe believe him for one moment of reality. Maybe no motive just truth..

(Kinda random ..if musk cuts what he promises ..it would take him 105 years of that to fix the true debt problem...105!!!! People are losing it over his small snips)

Anyhow can't escape math and it's problem that WILL fix itself.

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 25 April 2025 - 03:37 AM

[Nicodimas]

Btw I have been consistent in my message for about a decade..not dooming ..the math exists and its not a decade out. It's on our fing doorstep. It's not complicated either...that pit in your stomach ..ya thats what that's about.

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 25 April 2025 - 03:32 AM

[Nicodimas]

And out for awhile. You should figure it out.

Arm appropriately! Prepare and all that. Good luck.

[Macros]

Or you know..... don't give billionaires massive tax breaks and tax the fuck out of them.

[amphibian]

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

I don't post too often , anytime I do the left try to dismiss, call me a dummy and the like. Gets old..so ignore me if you dont like what I bring to table..just notate and move on. Simple simple thing.

However the most insane crazy thing to watch over time is their will be federal programs costs.. singularly.like Medicaid that will cost more than all tax receipts. That's reality and you literally show them cost tables yet they fail to grasp medical costs. (Yes we can lower it by 80 percent tomorrow , but they just don't listen)

Or if we wanted to calm inflation we would need to raise interest rates higher which would raise cost more than the total tax receipts.

These simple facts just blow past logical conversations too. Kinda sad.Im enjoying them stripping parts of the govt down. Small droplets compared to the future for sure. This sets the tone for what's coming....if the richest man in America literally says America is about to be broke..why is so hard to maybe believe him for one moment of reality. Maybe no motive just truth..

(Kinda random ..if musk cuts what he promises ..it would take him 105 years of that to fix the true debt problem...105!!!! People are losing it over his small snips)

Anyhow can't escape math and it's problem that WILL fix itself.

I'll bite - how do you lower Medicaid spending by 80% and keep people cared for, healthy, and not losing their benefits?

I deal with Medicaid budgets for my entire state as part of my day job, by the way.

[Tiste Simeon]

I'm thinking Nico's maths are held in the same database that contains the very real evidence of election tampering in 2020 that's definitely going to be released any day now you'll see!

[Maark Abbott]

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

I don't post too often , anytime I do the left try to dismiss, call me a dummy and the like. Gets old..so ignore me if you dont like what I bring to table..just notate and move on. Simple simple thing.

However the most insane crazy thing to watch over time is their will be federal programs costs.. singularly.like Medicaid that will cost more than all tax receipts. That's reality and you literally show them cost tables yet they fail to grasp medical costs. (Yes we can lower it by 80 percent tomorrow , but they just don't listen)

Or if we wanted to calm inflation we would need to raise interest rates higher which would raise cost more than the total tax receipts.

These simple facts just blow past logical conversations too. Kinda sad.Im enjoying them stripping parts of the govt down. Small droplets compared to the future for sure. This sets the tone for what's coming....if the richest man in America literally says America is about to be broke..why is so hard to maybe believe him for one moment of reality. Maybe no motive just truth..

(Kinda random ..if musk cuts what he promises ..it would take him 105 years of that to fix the true debt problem...105!!!! People are losing it over his small snips)

Anyhow can't escape math and it's problem that WILL fix itself.

We are gonna cut some aid, cut some aid spending and the health! The health, very good health, winning at health with the budget cut, but the left because of the Hillary Joe emails of Hunter. Very sleepy. And the register, register for the autism and the healthcare because the spending less healthcare health. Art of the deal. But the left!

[QuickTidal]

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

I don't post too often , anytime I do the left try to dismiss, call me a dummy and the like. Gets old..so ignore me if you dont like what I bring to table..just notate and move on. Simple simple thing.

Hooboy, a Nico post...

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

However the most insane crazy thing to watch over time is their will be federal programs costs.. singularly.like Medicaid that will cost more than all tax receipts.

Nonsense. As someone from a country with universal healthcare, this is simply not the case. Nor is it the case in all the other MANY countries that have socialized medicine. Sorry? I know that defending blood-sucking Health Insurance lobbies is a tried and true American pastime, but you're never going to win this argument when the rest of us figured it out and don't suffer.

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

That's reality and you literally show them cost tables yet they fail to grasp medical costs. (Yes we can lower it by 80 percent tomorrow , but they just don't listen).

You have a population with 300+ million people...and what like 200million taxable adults? Any idea what your socialized healthcare would be if you allowed it? It would cover those costs, AND you could institute govt programs to curb the obesity and health problems prevalent in so many states if you did that to tamp those costs down even more.

Any idea what you all spend on military? It's a constantly eye-watering amount of your taxes. Somehow that's more important that a healthy population who doesn't have to go bankrupt if they get sick...almost seems intentional huh?

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

Or if we wanted to calm inflation we would need to raise interest rates higher which would raise cost more than the total tax receipts.

...

...

Trump has spent the last few weeks DEMANDING that the Fed LOWER the rate, and threatening Powell with firing if he doesn't. He thinks this will solve inflation...instead of stoking it. Isn't that you guy? Trump? Isn't he your guy?

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

These simple facts just blow past logical conversations too. Kinda sad.Im enjoying them stripping parts of the govt down. Small droplets compared to the future for sure.

If it were a systemic and recorded and audited reduction of whatever govt over-spending there is, that would be fine...but that's not what this was. Musk had his little tech cronies go in and gut things without thought, rhyme, or reason...You think Elon Musk knows how PUBLIC infrastructure works? The autopsy on all this will be a few years off, but I guarantee you what he did will be devastating.

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

This sets the tone for what's coming....if the richest man in America literally says America is about to be broke..why is so hard to maybe believe him for one moment of reality. Maybe no motive just truth..

If you think "The richest man in America", a dyed in the wool, card carrying capitalist wealth hoarding dragon has YOUR best interests at heart, let alone the average Joe in Americas....then you're further gone than I thought dude.

Nicodimas, on 25 April 2025 - 03:25 AM, said:

(Kinda random ..if musk cuts what he promises ..it would take him 105 years of that to fix the true debt problem...105!!!! People are losing it over his small snips)

Anyhow can't escape math and it's problem that WILL fix itself.

What are the small snips Nico, and why did making them make any sense? HAs Musk told anyone? He has not. You don't know any of that...he just said "I'm making necessary cuts to bloat" and you believed him AT HIS WORD without evidence.

This is the problem with so much of America....you believe these people are on the up and up and have your best interests at heart....and that anything democratic is fake news that you twist yourselves into knots trying to "debunk"....only to then believe your Trumpy gods never lie and everything they say must be gospel.

It's astonishing.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 25 April 2025 - 11:37 AM