[Tsundoku]

This guy looks interesting. John Ossoff, Dem from Georgia.

https://www.youtube....rts/6_YPtnou5ak

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Jon_Ossoff

[QuickTidal]

Gwynn ap Nudd, on 10 April 2025 - 03:27 AM, said:

It's market manipulation at this point. Everyone in the inner circle is raking in record trading profits.

Yep, he literally went on twitter or truth social or whatever yesterday morning and said "Now is a great time to buy!"....and then removed the tariffs in the afternoon.


It does not GET more corrupt than this. And it's so blatant. Like the US needs to sack up and actually physically arrest these people. That little slimy fucking scumbag trade representative from yesterday's hearing should be #1....


I feel like I'm a broken record at this point...until someone enforces your laws, you are not a country of laws....you're not even really a country.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 10 April 2025 - 12:04 PM

[HoosierDaddy]

We are a country with a semblance of a code of laws. It resembles a code of laws if you aren't white or don't have upper middle class money. It resembles general guidelines that may be discarded if you are white, and can be ignored if you are wealthy enough or wealthy and white.

[Macros]

But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.

[HoosierDaddy]

Macros, on 10 April 2025 - 06:21 PM, said:

But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.

Luckily you don't have to deal with the fear of having a naturalized citizen wife from China. I do.

So, I care about the impact on the rest of the world. If only a little bit behind the impact of that semblance of a system of laws on my own life.

[QuickTidal]

Macros, on 10 April 2025 - 06:21 PM, said:

But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.

Right?

The French had the decency to actually revolt when their so-called leader pull heinous crimes and shit.

[QuickTidal]

HoosierDaddy, on 10 April 2025 - 06:34 PM, said:

Macros, on 10 April 2025 - 06:21 PM, said:

But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.

Luckily you don't have to deal with the fear of having a naturalized citizen wife from China. I do.

So, I care about the impact on the rest of the world. If only a little bit behind the impact of that semblance of a system of laws on my own life.

I don't think anyone is attacking you personally...just that no one seems willing to do anything...not your leaders, not your country people...no one...and instead of just watching it as we usually do, we all get to experience it with you as he fucks the world in every way he can because he has a small peepee and everyone around him hates him and he knows it.

[amphibian]

There has been a 40 year campaign by the right wing to get to where we are now. It has been matched by something like 35 years of centrist/left wing inability to combat all of it all of the time. There have been some successes, yet the nature of party politics based on seniority and consultants (with right wing interests) mean that the centrists get pulled far right and the left wing gets clobbered by everyone looking for an easy talking point.

Makes for a very frustrating viewpoint for me. I'm doing what I can, yet I don't have the capacity to affect change by myself. Everything requires coalition building, policy and procedural changes, backstage conversations, getting out of the way when a bigger kahuna comes through etc.

[HoosierDaddy]

QuickTidal, on 10 April 2025 - 06:35 PM, said:

Macros, on 10 April 2025 - 06:21 PM, said:

But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.

Right?

The French had the decency to actually revolt when their so-called leader pull heinous crimes and shit.

We have people who counter-protest and roll up with their AR-15 when they get to feeling threatened (this isn't hypberole, this is 45 minutes away from me: https://www.jconline...st/82949910007/).

The cauldron is starting to boil over, only if this pot goes over, it's not a quick spill. It's a fucking explosion that you can't undo and that will end up with people fighting people. Because of that, I think people are being REALLY patient with their demonstrations and objections.

I'm not eager for the blood to start flowing in the streets or elsewhere.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 10 April 2025 - 06:45 PM

[amphibian]

There were hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of people demonstrating in the streets last weekend.

There is zero culture of organized protest like the South Korean or Hong Kong citizens showed. There is a glaring and widespread lack of knowledge of how the different pieces of advocacy fit into each other.

Most people do not have the answers to or even consider the following: When is it best to protest? When is it best to collectively write a letter? How does one lobby a local, state, or federal elected official? What language choices to make? How to be inclusive? How to protect each other from police or counter protestors? What are the unions' positions on this? What are the community organizations' positions on that? Where are the legal resources/people? How do we tie all of these together to effect lasting change?

The people who built the Civil Rights movements of the 40s-60s changed America into being a functioning democracy. They also had their organizations and coalition building skills stomped out or left to rot.

I'm one person, yet I can point to several policies where I'm integral to several billion dollars worth of positive changes in my state because I understand some of the answers to the above and I worked really hard for several years with many other people plus got lucky as hell.

It's incredibly hard to convince people who've never done anything like this that they need to do something. It is still hard to convince people who showed up to a march or protest that there's unglamorous work that should have been done years or months prior to the March and then get them to actually do it. Lot of hand holding. Lot of explaining legislative processes. Lot of recursive loops of communication to ensure that people remember policy positions and specific requests for action.

All of this is part of why lobbying is a multi billion industry and the lobbyists consistently outhustle the newbies.

This post has been edited by amphibian: 10 April 2025 - 07:02 PM

[Macros]

Surely everyone who voted democrat should he ringing their local constituency office and screaming at them to f8ght back and stop rolling over at the very least?

Not asking for blood in the streets, but am just constantly baffled at how this is all flying

Didn't MTG just disclose a bunch of stocks she bought at the bottom of the red??

[Maark Abbott]

Come on Seven Cities. You really just gonna sit there and let MEZLA do this to you

[amphibian]

 Macros, on 11 April 2025 - 04:51 AM, said:

Surely everyone who voted democrat should he ringing their local constituency office and screaming at them to f8ght back and stop rolling over at the very least?

Not asking for blood in the streets, but am just constantly baffled at how this is all flying

Didn't MTG just disclose a bunch of stocks she bought at the bottom of the red??

Legislatively, the Congressional Democrats do not have a majority or a tie anywhere, which yields no political power to do anything other than "make everything take a longer time and have tiny bits of procedure be fought over".

Two Democratic Representatives died in office in the last 6 weeks (TX and AZ) and the Texas Governor delayed an election to replace from May 3 to November 4. There's all kinds of fuckery happening because the GOP fundamentally doesn't believe in a true and operating democracy with a strong bureaucracy that actually enacts what the President and Congress says it should do.

It has taken a ton of fury and outroar to get the Democrats to be as obstructionist as possible. They are not practiced at it and it comes with a real cost of having to physically do the work and figuratively leave aside the fundraising that's critical to election success.

This post has been edited by amphibian: 11 April 2025 - 12:42 PM

[Mentalist]

Bonds are doing poorly and China is tripling down on tariffs.

It'll be interesting to see how far this goes. Will the US stumble into a stagflation situation, or manage to stop at a recession?

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

As I've said before, AI and killer robots will fix everything I don't see how any protest short of a general strike that extends to the red states, or a revolt / counter-autocoup in the military, will actually sway Trump (in a good way). Maybe it could help sway the military? "Please generals (if there are any left by then not as loyal (and worse) as "Hitler's generals" supposedly were) do a coup, pretty please? Even us Demon-rats will support you for once! If only just this time..."

Mentalist, on 11 April 2025 - 04:59 PM, said:

Bonds are doing poorly and China is tripling down on tariffs.

It'll be interesting to see how far this goes. Will the US stumble into a stagflation situation, or manage to stop at a recession?

My bet's on the stagflation express.

Well, until AI fixes it (with combined deflationary (because services and production cost less) and GDP-boosting (because potentially much greater productivity) impacts)... and along with quantum computing helps human civilization (or at least its technological progeny) ascend to truly god-like power, to grapple with the cascading climate catastrophes, like the Olympians vs Typhon 2.0.

[Lady Bliss]

My thought is that if mass protests take place, inflation rises, and the stock market keeps going low, it COULD cause him to get removed from office.

[Tsundoku]

Lady Bliss, on 11 April 2025 - 11:13 PM, said:

My thought is that if mass protests take place, inflation rises, and the stock market keeps going low, it COULD cause him to get removed from office.

Nah, watch how his cronies try to convert "national emergency" into "martial law" where they would regrettably have to suspend the constitution and use the troops as "peacekeepers" against their own people ... until the emergency has passed. Of course.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: Yesterday, 07:51 AM

[Macros]

Yeah.
America is stumbling into tyranny wide eyed stupid

[Garak]

Yeah, anyone who wonders how the Germans could allow what happened to happen, just look at the US today. Only somehow more stupid.