[Kalse]

Also I wasn't really planning on PI-ing people based on osserics actions Anthras.

It seems reasonably likely that his reveal is true, but like you point out, there are lots of variables.

With so many people, more than 1 killer seems likely, and it's common enough for guard not to be able to block paired killers.

[Anthras]

Kalse, on 19 August 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

His style may be irritating, but I think it's unfair to say he is just riding the reveal.

Riding the reveal, as in <I was guarded last night, yet a NK went through, so I'm not a killer> kind of thing.
Which is all based on whether Osseric is telling the truth, and whether we want to believe him or not.
And the apparent game set up and mechanics.

So people might be unwilling to vote for him under such circumstances, much they are reluctant to vote for Osseric atm.

Thyrllan already set up the initial Galain train, and now semi-pointed people towards Tulas Shorn. If TS is inno, then Thyrllan is doing a great job leading us by our noses, and laughing behind our backs. Which is, irritating to say the least.
/shrug


Another wild thought that I've been unable to block out.
Regarding all the weird posting so far, and game set up discussion --- there's something crawling in the back of my head that keeps saying that Fener was given some kind of important town role, and this is his big chance of redeeming the avatar from all the dung piles he's accumulated over the previous games.
Of course that thought will not prevent me from lynching Fener - it's Fener after all. But I firmly believe Morgoth to be sadistic enough to pull a fast one, like that, on us.

[Kalse]

Now you're making me paranoid.

Thyr wasn't the first to point out TS, I don't think. So, he could be accused of simply parroting safe suspicions (why I want further details, beyond him disliking the D'riss train). In fact, this would make more sense for scum, since they don't need to lead lynches as long as the lynches are away from scum, and unless he's de-railing from D'riss, wouldn't need to lead a lynch away.

[Korlat]

Path-Shaper, on 18 August 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

It's day 1.

There's 35 minutes left of the day.


Players still alive: Barghast, Sorrit, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Galain, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

9 votes to lynch.
8 votes to go to night.

8 votes for Galain ( Thyrllan, Osseric, Karatallid, Telas, Anthras, Emurlahn, Kalse, Shadow)
1 vote for Osseric (Galain)
1 vote for Fener (Sorrit)
3 votes for Karatallid ( D'riss, Emurlahn)
1 vote for D'riss (Fener)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Silanah, Tulas Shorn

Personally i think the galain lynch was pretty straight forward from about the 3-4 vote and as said before osseric and Kara's votes seemed more defensive. But after that point i think it would have been safe for scum to avoid the train so i would look more at those who were not on it for at least one of the scum. So me, driss, emurlahn, fener, silanah, and TS seeing as sorrit and galain are dead. So thats 6. For now i don't think fener is scum, or at the very least not important scum. And me and tulas were there to give our votes, i would count that in our favor at that point(obviously debatable but i am looking at the fact that one at least one would avoid a fairly visible lynch especially if they can communicate off thread) so i am left looking at driss, emurlahn, and silanah. Of those 3 emur and silanah have not been posting much either becuase they are busy or lurking, either of which doesnt provide much. Leaving driss.

And i am still waiting on fener to provide something. So i still like driss as a lynch just not as much as i did before i looked back and saw fener accusation of getting silenced. A little more from emur or silanah wouldn't hurt either.

edit-Grammar

This post has been edited by Korlat: 19 August 2011 - 08:29 PM

[Korlat]

Oh also Sorrit only made one post and it was a vote for fener.

Scum killed sorrit

Fener=scum




edit-case closed

This post has been edited by Korlat: 19 August 2011 - 08:22 PM

[Thyrllan]

Kalse, on 19 August 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

His style may be irritating, but I think it's unfair to say he is just riding the reveal. He has given an opinion on the D'riss train(though Thyr, I would like to hear specifically which votes are your least favourite) as well as some critique on Telas' justification for voting.

It's not a lot, and lots of it(the dodginess of the D'riss train) had been brought up already, but it's at least discussing the major events which is more than some of the people posting normally have done, never mind fener.

Of course you may hear Thyrllan's opinion! Not only is Thyrllan generous with all his opinions, he is magnanimous to boot, and honours penguin all requests made of him. For Thyrllan is the shining light of perfect example, sent here to guide you through the horrors which no doubt engulf us as we speak!

Thyrllan notes that Fener, Korlat, Tulas Shorn and Telas all voted for D'riss, though the last has subsequently removed their fateful vote. Thyrllan rolls his eyes at the suggestion that Fener is a finder, for Fener has attacked D'riss from the very beginning with the seeming same hate that I displayed penguin in my youth for Galain, before any investigations could have taken place. Now, Thyrllan acknowledges that Fener may have investigated D'riss the following night and found his initial gut instinct to be correct - but the chances of this are astronomical, are they not? Or, at the very least, not very likely penguin.

Thyrllan has analysed Korlat's vote, and found it to be based on the frankly penguin thoroughly erroneous notion that Fener has a strange and secret power to know who scum is, but in a un-finder-like way. This, in Thyrllan's honest opinion, is utter dross. Either Fener is a finder or more likely he is nothing - there is no in-between role for Fener to compensate for his silence. That, Thyrllan points out, would make it far too easy for town if Fener was motivated enough to urge us to vote his way. As it is, Fener has shown no such motivation penguin, only voting then running off into the corner, not to be hear (pictured?) from again.

Tulas Shorn's vote (and Thyrllan now hears Anthras' snort of derision) is the scummiest in the view of Thyrllan. Is Thyrllan biased because of his previous suspicions of Tulas Shorn? Thyrllan does not deny the possibility penguin, for even flawless Thyrllan is prone to the odd falibility. But Tulas Shorn's vote was highly...carefree. Thyrllan acknowledges that Tulas Shorn has since come on to explain himself further once some questions arose surrounding his personage, but if Tulas penguin Shorn is scum, then what he suggests is of the highest danger for team town. Lynch D'riss, then, if he comes up inno, lynch Fener. What, implores Thyrllan, what if they both turn out inno? Tulas Shorn appears to care not for this possibility.

Finally, there is Telas, whose vote appears to be in a similar vein. However, Thyrllan is aware that Telas has displayed more concern, and more penguin contribution recently, than Tulas Shorn, and Thyrllan is therefore prepared to put him behind Tulas but not thoroughly out of Thyrllan's suspicions.

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 08:10 PM, said:

Kalse, on 19 August 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

His style may be irritating, but I think it's unfair to say he is just riding the reveal.

Riding the reveal, as in <I was guarded last night, yet a NK went through, so I'm not a killer> kind of thing.
Which is all based on whether Osseric is telling the truth, and whether we want to believe him or not.
And the apparent game set up and mechanics.

So people might be unwilling to vote for him under such circumstances, much they are reluctant to vote for Osseric atm.

Thyrllan implores Anthras - nay, he begs Anthras! - to search through Thyrllan's posts and find the one penguin where Thyrllan says that Osseric's guard has proven Thyrllan's honourable innocence. You shall not find it, for Thyrllan is no fool and knows Osseric's guard proves nothing. Moreover, Thyrllan is not prepared to take advantage of his fellows for the sake of his life, and recognises that this game is not about ensuring self-preservation, but instead is about the common good of the town. So you shall find no such penguin post, for Thyrllan does not command people to believe anything about him - Thyrllan but relies on their own sense of right and clear judgement.


Thyrllan also has not voted yet because he admits to a degree of uncertainty. Thyrllan would like to vote for Tulas Shorn, but is concerned penguin about the group comprising the shadowy Shadow, the even-shadowier Emurlahn, and the silent Silanah, and that they hide the true threat. Thyrllan is, however, prepared to risk the hope that perhaps both suspicions can be correct.


Edit: Thyrllan forgot crucial word, thus proving Thyrllan's odd moment of falibility ha ha ha!

This post has been edited by Thyrllan: 19 August 2011 - 08:44 PM

[Tulas Shorn]

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 06:43 PM, said:

I had a post readied, but went on to take care of some things, and now I come back to find more. Since it has nothing to do with the discussion currently taking place, and more with the possible game set up, I will save it for a bit later.

Also, I'd like to point out that people who are directing their suspicions towards TS, have yet to vote for him - surprisingly again starting with Thryllan, who so happened to initiate Galains train yesterday, and then laughed about it.

Tulas Shorn, on 19 August 2011 - 06:31 PM, said:

D, on 19 August 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

@ Telas it was ONE careless remark. I misunderstood PS.. how many times do you want me to say it?

Also, if Fener was a silenced finder why would he be coming after me on day 1??? He wouldn't get a find until night time. You are just hopping on the train. Just convinces me more that you are up to no good.

Fener is misguided, Tulas is just lazy. You and Korlat.. you are Fishy, in votes, posts, and all else Scum.

Why are people calling me lazy? I put a vote on Kara to get a reaction and now because I follow fener's vote on d'riss I'm called lazy? Thryllan clearly pointed out my bonehead move to asking if fener might be a finder. Fener was right to not answer that request but since that thought is out there and I voiced it then maybe fener might actually be a finder. How do you test finder information? Well you lynch out who they are pointing to. if it turns out wrong then you vote out the finder. with fener's handicap I want to find out if he knows something but can't articulate it to the rest of us because of his limitations. if it turns out that d'riss is innocent then unless fener suddenly gains the use of the keyboard again we either completely ignore fener or vote his ass out as he is a worthless member of town or scum hiding behind his silence.

Finders with 'symp finding abilities only' aren't unheard of, or even rare.
And symps CF as innos.
Fener could be a symp finder (doesn't explain his stance on D'riss on day 1, but might explain his day 2 current stance if he NAed D'riss) and be forced to post with pictures simply to make it harder for team town to trust him.

Are you trying to lead us on a wild goose chase, TS?

I'm not trying to lead us anywhere. We have this puzzle that is fener that I would like to figure out or else remove entirely from the game. D'riss isn't even on the top of my list of who I think scum might be but he is a piece of the puzzle I would like to examine.

Also are you trying to piss off everyone on the thread. and what is with you throwing out "symp finding abilities". you are putting words in my mouth ass. I never once mentioned this nor even knew this was a known ability along with the whole silenced crap that is going on.

[Shadow]

Telas, on 19 August 2011 - 07:48 PM, said:

my apologies. 5 people i'd like to hear more than one liners from. Shadow included.

There's nothing wrong with one liners

[D'riss]

Tulas Shorn, on 19 August 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 06:43 PM, said:

I had a post readied, but went on to take care of some things, and now I come back to find more. Since it has nothing to do with the discussion currently taking place, and more with the possible game set up, I will save it for a bit later.

Also, I'd like to point out that people who are directing their suspicions towards TS, have yet to vote for him - surprisingly again starting with Thryllan, who so happened to initiate Galains train yesterday, and then laughed about it.

Tulas Shorn, on 19 August 2011 - 06:31 PM, said:

D, on 19 August 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

@ Telas it was ONE careless remark. I misunderstood PS.. how many times do you want me to say it?

Also, if Fener was a silenced finder why would he be coming after me on day 1??? He wouldn't get a find until night time. You are just hopping on the train. Just convinces me more that you are up to no good.

Fener is misguided, Tulas is just lazy. You and Korlat.. you are Fishy, in votes, posts, and all else Scum.

Why are people calling me lazy? I put a vote on Kara to get a reaction and now because I follow fener's vote on d'riss I'm called lazy? Thryllan clearly pointed out my bonehead move to asking if fener might be a finder. Fener was right to not answer that request but since that thought is out there and I voiced it then maybe fener might actually be a finder. How do you test finder information? Well you lynch out who they are pointing to. if it turns out wrong then you vote out the finder. with fener's handicap I want to find out if he knows something but can't articulate it to the rest of us because of his limitations. if it turns out that d'riss is innocent then unless fener suddenly gains the use of the keyboard again we either completely ignore fener or vote his ass out as he is a worthless member of town or scum hiding behind his silence.

Finders with 'symp finding abilities only' aren't unheard of, or even rare.
And symps CF as innos.
Fener could be a symp finder (doesn't explain his stance on D'riss on day 1, but might explain his day 2 current stance if he NAed D'riss) and be forced to post with pictures simply to make it harder for team town to trust him.

Are you trying to lead us on a wild goose chase, TS?

I'm not trying to lead us anywhere. We have this puzzle that is fener that I would like to figure out or else remove entirely from the game. D'riss isn't even on the top of my list of who I think scum might be but he is a piece of the puzzle I would like to examine.

Also are you trying to piss off everyone on the thread. and what is with you throwing out "symp finding abilities". you are putting words in my mouth ass. I never once mentioned this nor even knew this was a known ability along with the whole silenced crap that is going on.

Here is the thing. Do you think Fener is a killer? If so, you lynch him. Do you think he is a symp... then lynching him or me makes no sense as you are going to get an inno CF either way, Do you think he is an inno and he has correctly pegged scum (me). then, by all means keep your vote where it is.

I just don't think there is any way that Fener or Thyr are killers. Symps, very likely, inno's that have been changed, also likely, but as they both Started out posting this way, I don't think they are killers... just too blatant and bold.

[D'riss]

whats the plan for the weekend? is there a freeze? I am gone all of saturday and much of sunday.

[Thyrllan]

D, on 19 August 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

whats the plan for the weekend? is there a freeze? I am gone all of saturday and much of sunday.

Thyrllan providentially informs D'riss that there is a freeze on the clock but the game carries on regardless of monster or mortal.

[Anthras]

Tulas Shorn, on 19 August 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 06:43 PM, said:

I had a post readied, but went on to take care of some things, and now I come back to find more. Since it has nothing to do with the discussion currently taking place, and more with the possible game set up, I will save it for a bit later.

Also, I'd like to point out that people who are directing their suspicions towards TS, have yet to vote for him - surprisingly again starting with Thryllan, who so happened to initiate Galains train yesterday, and then laughed about it.

Tulas Shorn, on 19 August 2011 - 06:31 PM, said:

D, on 19 August 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

@ Telas it was ONE careless remark. I misunderstood PS.. how many times do you want me to say it?

Also, if Fener was a silenced finder why would he be coming after me on day 1??? He wouldn't get a find until night time. You are just hopping on the train. Just convinces me more that you are up to no good.

Fener is misguided, Tulas is just lazy. You and Korlat.. you are Fishy, in votes, posts, and all else Scum.

Why are people calling me lazy? I put a vote on Kara to get a reaction and now because I follow fener's vote on d'riss I'm called lazy? Thryllan clearly pointed out my bonehead move to asking if fener might be a finder. Fener was right to not answer that request but since that thought is out there and I voiced it then maybe fener might actually be a finder. How do you test finder information? Well you lynch out who they are pointing to. if it turns out wrong then you vote out the finder. with fener's handicap I want to find out if he knows something but can't articulate it to the rest of us because of his limitations. if it turns out that d'riss is innocent then unless fener suddenly gains the use of the keyboard again we either completely ignore fener or vote his ass out as he is a worthless member of town or scum hiding behind his silence.

Finders with 'symp finding abilities only' aren't unheard of, or even rare.
And symps CF as innos.
Fener could be a symp finder (doesn't explain his stance on D'riss on day 1, but might explain his day 2 current stance if he NAed D'riss) and be forced to post with pictures simply to make it harder for team town to trust him.

Are you trying to lead us on a wild goose chase, TS?

I'm not trying to lead us anywhere. We have this puzzle that is fener that I would like to figure out or else remove entirely from the game. D'riss isn't even on the top of my list of who I think scum might be but he is a piece of the puzzle I would like to examine.

Also are you trying to piss off everyone on the thread. and what is with you throwing out "symp finding abilities". you are putting words in my mouth ass. I never once mentioned this nor even knew this was a known ability along with the whole silenced crap that is going on.

.
..
...
I had all sorts of sarcastic comments, but I'm sleepy and tired. That, and the fact that I'm in the fast lane of loosing faith to the reading comprehension of some of you.

Making a long story, short :: D'riss CF-ing as Inno DOESN'T actually mean Fener is not a finder, or that D'riss is indeed team-town. Why? Because symps CF as Inno's too.
And for all we know, Fener could be a Finder who is only able to locate symps and not true killers. Still, it's members of team-scum. Yet his restriction of posting only in pictures, or quotes makes his job harder and doesn't actually help him, in case he was to fully reveal his role, down the road. (Since he can only directly quote, and last time I checked, you can't reveal your PM role word-for-word in the thread, you have to alter it in some way or another. And he's already displayed either unwillingness or inability to do something like that, already.)
So asking him to back his case up with more evidence, or something more cohesive is contradicting. And setting up lynches like the way you suggested, is a huge NO-NO, at least this early in the game, cause it stinks of scumminess.

We only operate under the assumption that everyone who CF's inno is indeed team town, so we can always be aware of Worse Case Scenarios, and all the while it helps us know when under WCS circumstances, we get to Lynch-or-Die day.


Am I paranoid? Not just yet.
But fuck me if I'll allow these tentacles to take me. I'd rather go down fighting, and if my posts get me lynched, then so be it. That's a more fitting death, than getting munched on by something with multiple penetrating organs, and half a dozen of mouths and eyes.

[Barghast]

Ye gods, we're only halfway day 2 and already people are throwing the smooth argument in by the bucket. For those who want to tag that on me, who demand to hear more of me: fuck you.

1. Content does not equate quantity, necessarily. If you need to see my fucking avatar on every page to remind your pea sized little thinkymeats that I am in the game, I suggest you take a fucking noteblock and write the good points people make on it. I'd not be bottom of the page then.
FYI, when I signed up, I said I'd be a low poster, also. Simply put: I can post from work and a tiny little bit from home whenever I am not doing something more important (like fighting crime).

Yeah, go search the sign-up if you haven't alted me yet, I'll give you that advantage here and now, freely. I have not made many posts but the ones I made are content and show a clear stance on a lot of the issues that plagued the thread day 1 and then early day 2. I have no doubt you all have fucking fantastic memories, a sense of judgment Lady Justitia would be proud of, but hey... let me blow my own trumpet to remind you all. On day 1: double bounce with Anthras, defending Kara as about the only one when some non-sensical fucks wanted to lynch him because of a symp signal, and I vaguely recall I hammered someone at midnight my time while I was somewhat hammered myself, which was a bit out of tune apparently with a lot of you people, and yeah, THAT certainly can be categorized as smooth [/sarcasm].

Day 2: not much, but hey, you fuckers are debating the same issues that happened when I were on: I've listed my thoughts on Fener and Thyr, haven't made my mind up about D'riss apart from him being a bit of a pain with speculation day 1, and I haven't seen a real good case that can convince me, but we have 48 + 28 hours for me to re-read. If that is non-commital, then definitions are no longer what they were back in the old days.

2. Smooth play is not bad for an inno, as opposed to what a lot of you seem to think. It is only bad if it is non-commital. I stood up for Kara when a bunch of crazies wanted him lynched, and I pushed away when Anthras wanted to bully me around. If I see something that's worth commenting to, I will comment, and if I think the information we'll gain from something by letting it stew (I wouldnt have done what Shadow did when asking Kara and Anthras to put the flamethrowers aside, for example), then I let it stew. If someone asks me a direct question, I'll answer, but I'll give the finger to anyone who just makes a post listing people 'they want to hear more from.' That's filler shit, that's not content, and it won't provide content either because what you ask for is presence, instead of firectly asking opinions, making cases or dragging up quotes. A good case cements your gut feeling, but to get a fucking gut feeling you need either to do quiet analysis, or ask questions. Saying you want more from someone is neither.

3. The fact that yiu think I'm smooth is because I'm not running butt-naked over the thread yelling there's a cult in play, revealing because I'm at L-6 or assuming silenced players can't make cases and need to be gotten rid of, or the opposite, suddenly thinking they must be roled, is not a sign of dodging responsibility or scum play. It is a sign of being just smart enough to not go along with that fucking idiocy and believe me, the fewer idiots town has, the bigger a chance to lynch scum, especially since it means we won't be lynching inno tosspots with bird shit for brains who go around being contraproductive.

Now, I just needed to get that off my chest.

So,what can you expect my opinion on, soon (say, monday morning)?
My main priority is reading all the pwetty colows Kalse and Telas threw at each other. That was a pretty hefty chunk of day 1 and has completely slipped in the debates today.

Second, there is a lot of controversy surrounding Anthras, and I'd like to read up if he's just in need of being the thread's silverback (together with a few others here) or being a likely symp. It's simple really, check how many fights he picks and more importantly, for what reason, see how many theories you can rubbish, and then decide and continue to apply the analysis throughout the game. Even if he's a symp, he's not top lynch priority but it makes certain whether to listen to him, or to try to read through his posts for what's beneath.

Finally, I quite like some of the stuff Thyrllan puts on thread. I've been guilty of skipping several of his posts because I detest Kruppe's smugness, and dismissed it during day 1 as a temporary thing, thinking he could clarify today. Sadly, that's not the case.

Now, for all you cock smokers who wanted me to post more, what is YOUR list of action?

[Barghast]

Anyway, I'm of to bed. Have a good evening, people.

[Tulas Shorn]

D, on 19 August 2011 - 10:04 PM, said:

Here is the thing. Do you think Fener is a killer? If so, you lynch him. Do you think he is a symp... then lynching him or me makes no sense as you are going to get an inno CF either way, Do you think he is an inno and he has correctly pegged scum (me). then, by all means keep your vote where it is.

I just don't think there is any way that Fener or Thyr are killers. Symps, very likely, inno's that have been changed, also likely, but as they both Started out posting this way, I don't think they are killers... just too blatant and bold.

As of now I don't think Fener is a killer. I also don't think that he is a symp. I voted for you with the reasoning that he may have done some sort of find on you as he was so adamant about getting you voted out. Just because, as of now, I don't think that you are a killer, doesn't means that I'm right about my assumption. Many times I'm not. I was also hoping to get more of a reaction from Fener that would give me some insight as to where he is coming from.

But If he comes on and removes his vote on you then I would believe that he isn't a finder and just thinks that you are an idiot that needs to be voted off and then I would be willing to drop my whole pursuit of this line of reasoning. I'd also just ignore Fener for the time being. Otherwise my vote stays right where it's at.

[Tulas Shorn]

@Anthras

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!

Where are you getting this hard on for symps?

I have never once stated that I thought anyone was a symp or accused a finder of finding a symp.

I don't even know if fener is a finder. I just want some answers to why fener has a hard on for d'riss.

Seriously jackass.

[Tulas Shorn]

Also how would you know if D'riss would CF as innocent unless you yourself were scum?

[Kalse]

Barghast, on 19 August 2011 - 10:31 PM, said:

Ye gods, we're only halfway day 2 and already people are throwing the smooth argument in by the bucket. For those who want to tag that on me, who demand to hear more of me: fuck you.

1. Content does not equate quantity, necessarily. If you need to see my fucking avatar on every page to remind your pea sized little thinkymeats that I am in the game, I suggest you take a fucking noteblock and write the good points people make on it. I'd not be bottom of the page then.
FYI, when I signed up, I said I'd be a low poster, also. Simply put: I can post from work and a tiny little bit from home whenever I am not doing something more important (like fighting crime).

Yeah, go search the sign-up if you haven't alted me yet, I'll give you that advantage here and now, freely. I have not made many posts but the ones I made are content and show a clear stance on a lot of the issues that plagued the thread day 1 and then early day 2. I have no doubt you all have fucking fantastic memories, a sense of judgment Lady Justitia would be proud of, but hey... let me blow my own trumpet to remind you all. On day 1: double bounce with Anthras, defending Kara as about the only one when some non-sensical fucks wanted to lynch him because of a symp signal, and I vaguely recall I hammered someone at midnight my time while I was somewhat hammered myself, which was a bit out of tune apparently with a lot of you people, and yeah, THAT certainly can be categorized as smooth [/sarcasm].

Day 2: not much, but hey, you fuckers are debating the same issues that happened when I were on: I've listed my thoughts on Fener and Thyr, haven't made my mind up about D'riss apart from him being a bit of a pain with speculation day 1, and I haven't seen a real good case that can convince me, but we have 48 + 28 hours for me to re-read. If that is non-commital, then definitions are no longer what they were back in the old days.

2. Smooth play is not bad for an inno, as opposed to what a lot of you seem to think. It is only bad if it is non-commital. I stood up for Kara when a bunch of crazies wanted him lynched, and I pushed away when Anthras wanted to bully me around. If I see something that's worth commenting to, I will comment, and if I think the information we'll gain from something by letting it stew (I wouldnt have done what Shadow did when asking Kara and Anthras to put the flamethrowers aside, for example), then I let it stew. If someone asks me a direct question, I'll answer, but I'll give the finger to anyone who just makes a post listing people 'they want to hear more from.' That's filler shit, that's not content, and it won't provide content either because what you ask for is presence, instead of firectly asking opinions, making cases or dragging up quotes. A good case cements your gut feeling, but to get a fucking gut feeling you need either to do quiet analysis, or ask questions. Saying you want more from someone is neither.

3. The fact that yiu think I'm smooth is because I'm not running butt-naked over the thread yelling there's a cult in play, revealing because I'm at L-6 or assuming silenced players can't make cases and need to be gotten rid of, or the opposite, suddenly thinking they must be roled, is not a sign of dodging responsibility or scum play. It is a sign of being just smart enough to not go along with that fucking idiocy and believe me, the fewer idiots town has, the bigger a chance to lynch scum, especially since it means we won't be lynching inno tosspots with bird shit for brains who go around being contraproductive.

Now, I just needed to get that off my chest.

So,what can you expect my opinion on, soon (say, monday morning)?
My main priority is reading all the pwetty colows Kalse and Telas threw at each other. That was a pretty hefty chunk of day 1 and has completely slipped in the debates today.

Second, there is a lot of controversy surrounding Anthras, and I'd like to read up if he's just in need of being the thread's silverback (together with a few others here) or being a likely symp. It's simple really, check how many fights he picks and more importantly, for what reason, see how many theories you can rubbish, and then decide and continue to apply the analysis throughout the game. Even if he's a symp, he's not top lynch priority but it makes certain whether to listen to him, or to try to read through his posts for what's beneath.

Finally, I quite like some of the stuff Thyrllan puts on thread. I've been guilty of skipping several of his posts because I detest Kruppe's smugness, and dismissed it during day 1 as a temporary thing, thinking he could clarify today. Sadly, that's not the case.

Now, for all you cock smokers who wanted me to post more, what is YOUR list of action?

Quantity doesn't equal content. Neither do a lot of your posts, looking through. Your most detailed post is probably on role/number speculation.

You did disagree consistently with the case on Kara, and provided reasoning for doing so. No objection here.

Your stance on Galain was "personally, I'd have little issue with sending Galain to the stake for some burnination, myself. At least there is a whiff of him deliberately diving below the radar through quietness there. " Basically just agreeing with others.

A couple of obvious points about the usual low poster problem and the consequences of Osseric not being counter claimed.

Some bitching at Osseric for revealing and his behaviour afterwards.

There is something of a lack of your own suspicions here. You state whether you agree or disagree with others case, but present few of your own suspicions.

Not huge on content, though better than some of the other low posters.

As a direct question then, who do you suspect the most and why?

[Kalse]

Lynching D'riss doesn't really seem a great way of figuring out why Fener suspects him.

[Kalse]

Tulas Shorn, on 19 August 2011 - 10:56 PM, said:

Also how would you know if D'riss would CF as innocent unless you yourself were scum?

I believe he is talking about your plan of lynching D'riss and if D'riss is inno lynching Fener, and is arguing that D'riss CFing inno hardly means Fener is scum. If D'riss turned up scum, it would be a completely different scenario.