[Korlat]

Telas, on 19 August 2011 - 06:05 PM, said:

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Vote karatallid

I think T

Telas, on 19 August 2011 - 06:51 PM, said:

P-S I voted for D'riss not Kara.

[Kalse]

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

There's a lot of things that one wouldn't expect they would be in a M&P game, yet we are currently dealing with some.

True.

I'm currently swaying between voting Tulas and Fener. I don't like Telas' vote much but theirs seem worse. Korlat seems almost as bad as Tulas, except that Tulas seems to also be attempting to set up a lynch in advance on Fener.

Fener has contributed bugger all, hasn't explained his vote, and is being a big distraction(no, I didn't like that you attacked Thyr for this anth, because Thyr is actually contributing).

[Korlat]

I have no further knowledge, just speculation. But as said in a previous post i am not stuck on the vote seeing as fener suggests someone did it to him rather than it being his role which kills the idea.


edit- replaced my with a before previous post

This post has been edited by Korlat: 19 August 2011 - 07:07 PM

[Anthras]

Korlat, on 19 August 2011 - 07:01 PM, said:

Telas, on 19 August 2011 - 06:05 PM, said:

Remove vote

Vote karatallid

I think T

Telas, on 19 August 2011 - 06:51 PM, said:

P-S I voted for D'riss not Kara.

He said his post was messed up, something to do with the server timing out.
It's on top of the page.

[Kalse]

Vote Tulas

For the vote which seems based simply on wild speculation and because he seems to be trying to set up lynches ahead of time.

Also, because Fener would continue to be a distraction if lynched anyway.

[Korlat]

Thought that the quotes not showing up was the problem not something else.


edit-i get it cut off quote of someone else voting Kara never mind then.

This post has been edited by Korlat: 19 August 2011 - 07:19 PM

[Telas]

ok, I see where PS got the idea, thanks. just to be clear

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Vote D'riss

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 19 August 2011 - 06:51 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 August 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:

It is day 2

There's 16 hours and 28 minutes left of the day. The week end freeze is now in effect. Play continues but the clock is stopped until Monday morning.


14 players still alive: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

8 votes to lynch.
7 votes to go to night.

3 votes for D'riss (Fener, Korlat, Tulas Shorn)
1 vote for Anthras (Karatallid)
1 vote for Karatallid (Telas)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Silanah, Thyrllan, Shadow, Emurlahn, D'riss.

P-S I voted for D'riss not Kara.

Telas, on 19 August 2011 - 06:05 PM, said:

and a second thought i noted while digging back through for d'riss quotes. the other person i would like to lynch, albeit less so than d'riss at the moment hence my prior vote, is silanah. i agree he is riding smooth and never seems to get brought up that much. i think that with the scum, there are potentially two killers, and would hazard that on killer is silent and the other is more vocal. it's harder to pick out the silent ones for obvious reasons, but i think the representative quotes below demonstrate someone who posts enough not be be a lurker or low-poster, but who also stays away from controversy while looking like he is contributing something
[quote name='Silanah' timestamp='1313682714' post='889216'
Well...interesting day 1 developments.

[quote name='Kalse' timestamp='1313679261' post='889196'
[quote name='Karatallid' timestamp='1313653892' post='889109'
[quote name='Kalse' timestamp='1313630831' post='889025'
Remove vote

Vote karatallid

I think T

[Path-Shaper]

Ah. I see

It is day 2

There's 16 hours and 28 minutes left of the day. The week end freeze is now in effect. Play continues but the clock is stopped until Monday morning.


14 players still alive: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

8 votes to lynch.
7 votes to go to night.

4 votes for D'riss (Fener, Korlat, Tulas Shorn, Telas)
1 vote for Anthras (Karatallid)
1 vote for Tulas Shorn (Kalse)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Silanah, Thyrllan, Shadow, Emurlahn, D'riss.

Also, my appologies. I forget to update after having done the vote count sometimes.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 19 August 2011 - 07:21 PM

[Kalse]

Emurlahn, on 19 August 2011 - 06:11 PM, said:

Back and somewhat caught up.

I don't get the train on D'riss, as it doesn't have any substance.
And I agree with Thyrllan that it has gathered so many people on it smells of scum.



I'm going to read the thread again and see if I note something on a second read.

It's been more than an hours with no follow up to this btw.

[Emurlahn]

I know, but I'm dead tired and my reading comprehension is failing and that doesn't help neither my speed nor my ability to notice something.

[Anthras]

Kalse, on 19 August 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

There's a lot of things that one wouldn't expect they would be in a M&P game, yet we are currently dealing with some.

True.

I'm currently swaying between voting Tulas and Fener. I don't like Telas' vote much but theirs seem worse. Korlat seems almost as bad as Tulas, except that Tulas seems to also be attempting to set up a lynch in advance on Fener.

Fener has contributed bugger all, hasn't explained his vote, and is being a big distraction(no, I didn't like that you attacked Thyr for this anth, because Thyr is actually contributing).

Thyr might actually seem like he's contributing (could be a good played scum as well) but at the moment he's riding Osserics reveal.

Afaik with Osseric and Thyrllan ::: I was concerned with Osseric not been around yesterday right at lynch time and after that, simply because he revealed roled town. Even if the role he claims isn't particularly dangerous for scum initially (and that's under the assumption that a solo guard can't shut down a paired killer - common NK combo by a lucky guard NA on day 1), they'll want to get rid of the guard (if he's telling the truth) when the game moves on to the final stages. And knowing who the guard is, makes it easier. So in the off-set he was the target of a NK, and his CF revealed town guard (btw I'm not even sure if the CF will reveal town roles, I think it only states faction, yet again don't take me for granted on that one), then letting us know who his NA target was, could help team town by PI-ing someone else (all under the assumption of paired killers - one night kill - guard on one blocks the NK type of thinking... which could be wrong, but hey, it's what came on my mind for a pretty standard scum team set up)

My whole beef was that I kept thinking 'standard M&P game' with 16 players. So, I went with the 4 team scum member team - two paired killers with outside thread communication and one common NK, and one symp for each of them - scenario.

Now if we assume and accept that Osseric is telling the truth (And just because he revealed guard and noone counter-revealed or called him out on it, doesn't mean he IS indeed a guard. There's always the off-set of guard not actually been in play here. Far stretched maybe, but the possibility, even if low, is there.) and we also assume that we are dealing with a paired killer - one common NK combo, then this means that Thyrllan is not one of the killers we are looking for (since Osseric said he guarded him with his NA). He could still be a symp, but his CF would say 'inno' so it's again not a guarantee team-scum member elimination.
Again, the above mentioned speculation and theorycrafting is under the assumption that a guard can block a [paired killers - common night kill] combo.

That's a lot of <if's> though, if you ask me.

Also, Osseric's NA target seems a bit surprising, to say the least. Thryllan and Fener's posting methods really stand out. They will catch our eye, eventually. Why bother with one of them as an NA? Can they be killers? Sure, anything is possible. But staging a game where a killer gets such a distinctive posting method which attracts the eye so easily, is... meh. You can get lynched simply for posting like that, without doing anything else. So, it semi beats the purpose.

But so far this games mechanics seem a bit strange, to say the least.

[Anthras]

We could also be dealing with a [two killer - two separate NKs] combo, and Osserics NA on Thyrllan blocked one of the NKs.

I'm up for lynching Tulas.
Yet if I had to choose, I'd go for this order, highest to lowest.

Korlat > TS = Silanah = Emur = Telas > Shadow

[Shadow]

Perhaps if their were a(nother) guard, they're not telling about Osseric to protect their identity until a later stage of the game.

[Telas]

yeah, I must admit that fener is rubbing me the wrong way with how much discussion circles around him and how little he actually posts. he never answered my questions asking for clarification if he was mocking me or kalse. he is rarely around. moreover, we know he can be useful in that he still can quote other people and then comment quite a bit with pictures (i don't buy the fact that he is frustrated and thus, can't communicate more)

ok, so you are convincing me to make PS's job more confusing. sorry PS


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problem is i am not sure who to go for. if fener actually comes up with some more decent quotes or even helps back up my suspicions, i will put my vote back on d'riss, but i really don't like how hard it is to finger anyone in this game. there are way too many aberrant players (most blatantly fener, thyr, TS, osseric, and d'riss) and i think that some of those have to be town. but why they are all acting so strangely then is beyond me.

arghhhh. so do we agree that the vocal ones are not likely night killers since they are really putting themselves out there and inviting lynches? if so, which of our more quiet or odd ones should we lynch? going with kalse's assessment for now with my own edit about TS, we have barghast, emurlahn, korlat, and silannah all playing really smooth or lying low. i hate to hit another townie, but i really think one of the killers is among them, and is going to be really hard to pinpoint as a result.

would these four like to speak up some more? i know you are around emur and korlat, at least very recently....

and ffs fener, speak up or i'll just lynch to cut off some deadwood. you think d'riss, give us more than pretty pictures YOU CAN QUOTE GODDAMNIT

[Telas]

my apologies. 5 people i'd like to hear more than one liners from. Shadow included.

[Telas]

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 07:41 PM, said:

We could also be dealing with a [two killer - two separate NKs] combo, and Osserics NA on Thyrllan blocked one of the NKs.

I'm up for lynching Tulas.
Yet if I had to choose, I'd go for this order, highest to lowest.

Korlat > TS = Silanah = Emur = Telas > Shadow

what makes me equivalent to TS? that's really irritating.

[Kalse]

His style may be irritating, but I think it's unfair to say he is just riding the reveal. He has given an opinion on the D'riss train(though Thyr, I would like to hear specifically which votes are your least favourite) as well as some critique on Telas' justification for voting.

It's not a lot, and lots of it(the dodginess of the D'riss train) had been brought up already, but it's at least discussing the major events which is more than some of the people posting normally have done, never mind fener.

[Emurlahn]

I give up for today but I will try to contribute during the weekend. All I can think about now is sleeeep.

[Kalse]

Shadow, on 19 August 2011 - 07:46 PM, said:

Perhaps if their were a(nother) guard, they're not telling about Osseric to protect their identity until a later stage of the game.

If so, I would urge them to do otherwise.

A hidden guard is not nearly as helpful as finding a scum, particularly so early when the information would give us a lot to go on for the rest of the game.

Also, the chance of someone being believed much later is not very high, so the chances of them being much use is slim.