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Mafia 76.5 a tentacular horror

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:07 AM

View PostThyrllan, on 26 August 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:


The going to night option has merit but is risky. We lose a day in which we could get rid of scum (either killer or symp) while potentially letting the killers have a free shot. Thyrllan is traditionally in the 'always lynch' camp, but understands while the angels, all pallid and wan, uprising, unveiling, affirm that the play is the tragedy, "Man," and its hero the Conqueror Worm further thought needs to go into this decision.






oh come now.

THE ODD EVEN RULE...HELLO....its not risky at all.
We dont lose a day in wich we can lynch scum...because at WCS only have one day left.
So we potentially gain a day of discussion...not only that, we test out the guard on barghast again AND there is always the chance that the killers hit a symp! plus the suspect pool is smaller.

In my book it should just about be standard practice to make the numbers odd when its d-day anyways!
It does not give scum any more advantage if we go to night...dont you get it?

actually considering its potentially D-day i might have considered going to night regardless. Never mind the guard test.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:05 PM

you know, after thyr's last comment, and since fener is still among my top contenders for scum, has anyone else noticed that thyr almost always defends fener? at one time or another most people have expressed concerns about fener amounting to he may be scum, we should consider lynching him. however, thyr seems more prone to saying "well that accusation may be, but this that and the other about fener, i still think fener is a poor little RI"

let me test out a theory on you all, and please don't start screaming SCUM, SCUM!!! since i am frustratingly fixated on fener and how we could let him go on for so long.

we are guessing there are paired killers, correct? we also think that in addition to osseric's supposed guard role, there is a healer who may have been the one to actually get lucky last night and prevent a NK. now, as i've said many times already, i think morgy is a sly dog. i think being a mafia veteran and a scoundrel, he has guessed how people will react to people will react to handicaps (namely wild accusations followed by, "naw that can't be right, they can't be scum, they're too obvious"). alternatively, i would not put it past paired killers to think of a novel method to toy with town. finally, i have noticed that both fener and thyr continue to be the only one's handicapped even on this fourth day and that thyr is once again very understandable and readable (odd, don't you think considering how his previous two handicaps were progressively debilitating)

moreover, in continuing with these observations, has anyone else picked up on the good cop bad cop thing going on? i mean, fener is way way WAY to aggressive, a drama queen of his own right. i would expect frustration and anger for a couple of days, but i think most people, after coming to term with their surprise handicap, would look for a way to be more helpful, eloquent (as much as one could be with pictures...), and reasonable. but fener just continues throwing out unsubstantiated accusations, people discuss them as if they were backed up by a lot of evidence, and then thyr gently guides everyone, pointing out "this" idea and dissuading "that" misdirected pointing finger.

so to summarize, i agree with those who suspect a paired killer group and i think that the killers are fener and thyr, who can communicate off thread (giving fener an outlet, since just fucking a RI for the whole game seems silly), and who's handicaps are the design of a clever veteran mod or a pair of players who are trying out a great way to keep the town off their tail.

i understand as it stands, the debate is whether to vote for night, barghast, or someone else. if we convincingly argue and agree that going straight to night is a good idea (i'm not so sure, considering a healer in the mix would confuse any results in regard to the effectivity of osseric's guard), i will help make that happen. otherwise, the evidence on barghast is weak, and at this point worth discussion but not an outright lynch...yet. so i think you see where i am going, for now:


Vote Fener



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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:24 PM

*Sigh*....well.

you know...i think if we where going to try and test out this fener/thyr thing it should have been done before now.

I suppose it would be the greatest scam ever pulled in mafia history if these two where scum and decided to try this ploy out.
And we would look like the biggest fools of mafia history. :ice:

I just dont know... Yes...Its strange...this is supposed to be a M&P game.
But then i just dont see it!!
How ballsy would that be?

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:36 PM

Very ballsy, but if thyr and fener are the right players, and considering how there is a deathmatch soon to start, we have some very poetic, creative winds blowing on the site. also, thinking in terms of this being a game that is played for our enjoyment and bragging rights at the end, i know in terms of rep worthiness, thyr is definitely accruing at least a "wow great work dude" in SH, so what is there to lose?

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:39 PM

You know what.....im game

vote fener

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:46 PM

and as you said Kara, in a standard M&P this behavior is more likely to be faked (esp. with Morgy explicitly saying this is a standard M&P), and why would a townie hurt their team like that?

View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 August 2011 - 10:40 AM, said:

This is a regular M&P game with standard roles. There may be some role combination, but nothing that hasn't been seen before.



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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:49 PM

ok, gotta go to work. sorry for the crosspost there Kara. and if we are right, i'm sure we are being laughed at in SH, just like the town fools in the last Rot3K game.....

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:50 PM

for sure....lets see what the rest think?

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 01:10 PM

Day 4

16 hours left and 6 minutes left of the day.

10 players still alive: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Fener, D'riss.

6 votes to lynch.
5 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Barghast (Osseric)
2 votes for Fener (Telas, Karatallid)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Anthras, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Fener, D'riss.
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 01:20 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 26 August 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:

As for the guard....Thyrllan has made his feelings about Barghast known for some time, but now Thyrllan doesn't know whether to celebrate or be concerned. It is true that the no kill could have been caused by scum going for an Osseric who was being healed. This, however, does not preclude the possibility that Barghast is still scum in any case.

agree.

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Barghast was the first to suggest a viable alternative reasoning. Sensible, intelligent Barghast?

No, a Barghast who knows his classics in mafia.
What we have here is not exactly a freak occurance in mafia, only the fact that the guard reveal came on day 1 is somewhat novel. A guard-find is a risky thing. I would have pointed it out even if he had guarded someone else, and in fact, so does almost everyone so far (you, Kara), so no, I don;t know what happened for certain, but it is very simple. I'm not able to take actions and therefore guarding me has nothing to do with there being no kill.

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Or Barghast who knows exactly what really occurred because Barghast is scum? Impossible to know for certain. People have sensibly pointed out that the guard proves nothing. Indeed, IF there are two killers, Thyrllan himself is prone to believe that a guard can only work with only one killer left.

So if you agree with this, then why do you make a problem of me answering him? I'm the one he voted for, so I'm the one who has to defend myself. Besides that, I was online when/just after Osseric posted this. Should I then not answer?
Also, if you agree I'm being logical and sensible about this, then what is your problem? My timing? Should I have lurked and not posted for an hour or two, perhaps getting a pressure vote and becoming the day's sole focus, or should I answer immediately?
I know you think I smell, but now you're just being petty.


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The going to night option has merit but is risky. We lose a day in which we could get rid of scum (either killer or symp) while potentially letting the killers have a free shot. Thyrllan is traditionally in the 'always lynch' camp, but understands further thought needs to go into this decision.


I agree.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 01:26 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 26 August 2011 - 12:39 PM, said:

You know what.....im game

vote fener


I would have been game yesterday a lot more than today. We risk a lot by lynching wrongly, perhaps even the game. I'll go to yonder fence and sit there for a while, doing my best impression of Rodin's Le Penseur.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 01:54 PM

View PostBarghast, on 26 August 2011 - 01:26 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 26 August 2011 - 12:39 PM, said:

You know what.....im game

vote fener


I would have been game yesterday a lot more than today. We risk a lot by lynching wrongly, perhaps even the game. I'll go to yonder fence and sit there for a while, doing my best impression of Rodin's Le Penseur.


waiting for that hammer vote again are you :ice:

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 01:55 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 26 August 2011 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 26 August 2011 - 01:26 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 26 August 2011 - 12:39 PM, said:

You know what.....im game

vote fener


I would have been game yesterday a lot more than today. We risk a lot by lynching wrongly, perhaps even the game. I'll go to yonder fence and sit there for a while, doing my best impression of Rodin's Le Penseur.


waiting for that hammer vote again are you :p

since deadline is at 6 AM or so, I fear I won't be around :ice:

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:00 PM

weekend break should be starting soon innit?

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:16 PM

I am fine with a Fener Lynch, even if he is only a symp, it avoids d day. And if he is town the pictures hes posting are probably just to have more fun with his role, confusing either way.

Vote Fener

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:22 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 17 August 2011 - 09:41 PM, said:

Thyrllan proposes that Fener could be scum silencing themselves in order to look innocent.


View PostThyrllan, on 19 August 2011 - 01:18 AM, said:

Thyrllan believes that Fener's silencing is indeed suspicious. However, Thyrllan cannot believe that he is murdering scum, for would murdering scum really make themselves that obvious a target? Thyrllan believes that Fener might be a symp at worst, attempting to distract attention from the killers. In which case, Fener's attempts to warn us of the scumminess of D'riss may be trying to point us in the wrong penguin direction. Unless Fener is playing a cunning double-bluff game worthy of Thyrllan himself, in which D'riss is scum, and Fener knows, but is distracting us from it by pointing it out.

That sounds idiotic, but then that was the reasoning given for the beginning of the lynch train on Karatallid, was it not? Oh wait, Thyrllan suspects that that was idiotic too.


View PostThyrllan, on 19 August 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

Thyrllan notes that Fener, Korlat, Tulas Shorn and Telas all voted for D'riss, though the last has subsequently removed their fateful vote. Thyrllan rolls his eyes at the suggestion that Fener is a finder, for Fener has attacked D'riss from the very beginning with the seeming same hate that I displayed penguin in my youth for Galain, before any investigations could have taken place. Now, Thyrllan acknowledges that Fener may have investigated D'riss the following night and found his initial gut instinct to be correct - but the chances of this are astronomical, are they not? Or, at the very least, not very likely penguin.

Thyrllan has analysed Korlat's vote, and found it to be based on the frankly penguin thoroughly erroneous notion that Fener has a strange and secret power to know who scum is, but in a un-finder-like way. This, in Thyrllan's honest opinion, is utter dross. Either Fener is a finder or more likely he is nothing - there is no in-between role for Fener to compensate for his silence. That, Thyrllan points out, would make it far too easy for town if Fener was motivated enough to urge us to vote his way. As it is, Fener has shown no such motivation penguin, only voting then running off into the corner, not to be hear (pictured?) from again.


View PostThyrllan, on 23 August 2011 - 02:12 AM, said:

Thyrllan now wishes that Fener would attempt to give some reason for voting Tulas Shorn rather than penguin anyone else.


View PostThyrllan, on 24 August 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

here is Thyrllan!

Yoda is not sure if Fener is referring to Thyrllan with the Yoda picture as someone referred to Thyrllan as Thyrllan. so if But, Fener would like to make it polished crystal clear that he is in no way linked to Thyrllan.



View PostThyrllan, on 24 August 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 24 August 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

As for Fener being a symp (anyone's symp) with that kind of speech impediment: ehm, that's so ridiculous I don't know whether to laugh at it and explain or just give up and press Add Reply, but because I'm a nice guy, I'll explain before replying.

A symp has a few options. Defense, offense, fake reveal, and increasing scum victory chance through him surviving to the end. All but the last, which is passive, require talking, and loads of it. So, why on earth would any sane mod, even if he invents a M&P that is no M&P at all, limit a symp to pictures? To compensate alone he'd have to add another scum to make up for the lost ability. Now, unless we accept that Morghy thought that 2 halves make 1 full, in which case both Thyr and Fener would be symps (ridiculous), I''m convinced that Fener can well be whatever type of scum Morgoth decided would be fun having around, but I'll offer my left bum cheek to science if he's a symp.

And now, I'm off to bed.


Fener for as, faking believes that the suggestion that Fener may be symp is made in the belief that Fener is Thyrllan. role Morgoth has not given Fener a silenced That, lynching Fener is using it as a screen which offers him protection from and, explain also allowing Fener to point fingers everywhere with little consistent pressure on him to whilst. earlier notes that Fener's voting could have led to a lynch on D'riss Thyrllan, Shorn was the catalyst for the eventual lynch on Tulas and.

Korlat has now quickly voted Fener, explanation no with. night notes that Osseric has said he guarded Korlat last Thyrllan, killer may or may not lessen the chances of Korlat being the which, interpretation on your depending.


View PostThyrllan, on 24 August 2011 - 11:22 PM, said:

time disagrees that Fener as symp has wasted his Thyrllan. work has stated that the D'riss vote did not Barghast, to it did not have but. sufficiently distracted us it (inno D'riss is if), and, moreover, worked could have it. while was real danger on D'riss for a There (inno D'riss is if). And, ignore Thyrllan has noted but Barghast has chosen to as, Shorn vote change was clearly the catalyst for the lynch of Tulas Fener's.

Further, silenced humbly points out that Barghast's ruminations on Fener making it to end-game strengthen the case for a symp choosing to pretend to be Thyrllan.


View PostThyrllan, on 25 August 2011 - 08:58 PM, said:

Another thing:

Can anyone shed light for Thyrllan (hah, the my soul at least a solace hath In dreams of thee; and therein knows An Eden of bland repose irony, shedding light for the blinding fire of Thyrllan!) on Fener's Yoda picture a while ago? The only thing suggested at the time was that Fener was trying to link themselves to Thyrllan, but this seems to have slipped out of our thinking since. Thyrllan denied this, and then Fener said he was all alone, but then what was the Yoda picture about.

Unless Thyrllan can get another explanation, he can only deduce at the moment that Fener guessed (wrongly) that Thyrllan was scum like the general tuckermanities are arrant Bubbles - ephemeral and so transparent him, and tried to pretend we were lover partners, thinking that Thyrllan would go along with it, and when Thyrllan strenuously denied the suggestion, Fener quickly backtracked to say he meant no such thing.


View PostThyrllan, on 26 August 2011 - 01:12 AM, said:

Now, Thyrllan beseeches the lords of high wisdom and temperance, if only we could get Fener to put some actual reasoning behind anything. Use your pictures Fener, use your pictures! There's a good boy Fener!



Thyrllan is close to cascading the boiling burning light of frustration over the jackass that Telas has become! Thyrllan always defends Fener does he? Not only does Thyrllan call bullshit, Thyrllan calls it outrageous lies in the face of overwhelming fact! As above, not only has Thyrllan numerous times commented on his suspicion of Fener, but Thyrllan has also consistently pointed out Fener's potential as symp, Thyrllan has made his disbelief that Fener could be a finder clear. I stand amid the roar of a surf-tormented shore, and I hold within my hand grains of the golden sand and, why would Thyrllan of all people multiple times bring up the fact that, even though others dropped it, it was suggested that Fener could be linking themselves to Thyrllan, if Thyrllan really were linked to Fener as Telas suggests.

Thyrllan is dismayed and appalled either by this display of overwhelming ignorance on Telas' behalf, or his downright scumminess. After Barghast, there is no one Thyrllan would have been more comfortable lynching than Fener, and indeed he is still happy to do that if the by that infinity with which my wife was dearer to my soul than its soul-life rest of group want to proceed that way over other options. But, Thyrllan warns, if Fener does not come back as killer scum, Telas and his eager-to-agree- pal Karatallid come under severe scrutiny.

Thyrllan believes that Fener is either bored inno looking for a way to entertain themselves, or he is a symp wanderers in that happy valley, through two luminous windows, saw spirits moving musically, to a lute's well-tuned law deflecting and pointing fingers. It is possible that he is brave killer scum, but Thyrllan find this not as likely as symp. In any case, as stated, Thyrllan is willing to vote Fener, and decries the outrageous accusation that Thyrllan is somehow linked to Fener.

Edit: Thyrllan edited to make things neater, for Thyrllan is quite fastidious.

This post has been edited by Thyrllan: 26 August 2011 - 02:29 PM


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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:31 PM

not really convincing there thyr.

in fact thats the type of distancing you would probably see from two people who are obviously going to be paired together by there mere fact that they are both pulling these stunts.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:34 PM

Day 4

14 hours left and 34 minutes left of the day.

10 players still alive: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Fener, D'riss.

6 votes to lynch.
5 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Barghast (Osseric)
3 votes for Fener (Telas, Karatallid, Korlat)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Anthras, Silanah, Thyrllan, Fener, D'riss.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:35 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 26 August 2011 - 02:31 PM, said:

not really convincing there thyr.

in fact thats the type of distancing you would probably see from two people who are obviously going to be paired together by there mere fact that they are both pulling these stunts.


Ah, wise Karatallid, of course! Because when Thyrllan suspects Fener it is distancing, that holy dream- that holy dream, while all the world were chiding when others do it, it is healthy suspicion and speculation. Your one-line utterly dismissive response is far more unconvincing of your honesty to Thyrllan.

You and especially Telas have climbed many rungs on the scum ladder for Thyrllan.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:41 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 26 August 2011 - 02:22 PM, said:



Thyrllan believes that Fener is either bored inno looking for a way to entertain themselves, or he is a symp wanderers in that happy valley, through two luminous windows, saw spirits moving musically, to a lute's well-tuned law deflecting and pointing fingers. It is possible that he is brave killer scum, but Thyrllan find this not as likely as symp. In any case, as stated, Thyrllan is willing to vote Fener, and decries the outrageous accusation that Thyrllan is somehow linked to Fener.

Edit: Thyrllan edited to make things neater, for Thyrllan is quite fastidious.




see this is exaclty the type of thing i would be doing if i was pulling a stunt like we think you could be.

You obviously going to distance yourself from the get go to fener...it makes no sense otherwise as oyu are both doing this weird thing.
and here you go all out to show how upset you are that you are coupled with him?

So if he is ever called out on it and when he comes back as scum you can say you where always after him....yet you where not....not really.
You where always saying he is a symp, and that is a safer way of distancing, as a symp is never lynched we are always looking for the killer. Have you ever voted for him?
Even with all your bravado?


again...im not convinced....actually your display here makes me even more comfortable with my vote.

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