[Shadow]

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 03:30 PM, said:

Shadow, on 19 August 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

Flame war is distracting, fellows. Can we bring it down a peg?


Somebody mentioned my name, and I lost track. Let me go back so I can respond.

It's cold.
It's raining.

I'd rather have a flame going than forced to get closer than three feet to all of you.


Gasoline, man.
Fueling cars is it's secondary use.

You really know how to hurt a guy.


OK on re-read, I didn;t see anything to respond to, must have misread something



Although I agree w/ Thyrllan about the Galain train re: self-preservation, I don't want to discount Ossy & Kara from possible scummy lists.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 2

There's 16 hours and 28 minutes left of the day. The week end freeze is now in effect. Play continues but the clock is stopped until Monday morning.


14 players still alive: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

8 votes to lynch.
7 votes to go to night.

3 votes for D'riss (Fener, Korlat, Tulas Shorn)
1 vote for Anthras (Karatallid)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Silanah, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Emurlahn, D'riss.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 19 August 2011 - 05:43 PM

[Osseric]

I won't be back until late afternoon tomorrow.

[D'riss]

Here catching up.

[D'riss]

Fener, i am not sure whether to be flattered or insulted that I can give you such a raging hard-on. Vut a case that consists of more than a "D'riss is scum" picture would be appreciated. How am I supposed to defend against that. The really insane thing is that the sheeple are following you. You don't even give a reason for your vote! I know you can only post in pictures.. btu, come on, justify your vote in some way, because if you are just going off of gut ( Which you are) then you are hurting the townies. I know you are going off of gut because I ain't scum. Which leads me to the conclusion that either you are being lazy because you have to post in pictures, or you are an insane symp that doesn't care who we lynch as long as it isn't your master/s

Fener, on 19 August 2011 - 01:57 AM, said:

VOTE DRISS

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 01:41 AM, said:

And since I'm talking about posting times, here's more food for thought :::

D, on 18 August 2011 - 06:01 PM, said:

i'm back. Should be here until lynch time. Looks like I have a lot of catching up to do. brb

D'riss stating he's back, and that he will be here until lynch time. Alright.

D, on 18 August 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

Well, i am off to lunch.
i'll be back before lynch. I would prefer to lynch Kara to test my theory, but I would be willing to lynch Galain. imo a galain lynch doesn't give us as much info. i'll be back in an hr or 2

D'riss saying he's off to lunch, but he'll be back before lynch. Now, that had to be a mighty lunch cause it lasted 2.5h or so. It is what it is. I said I would be back before the lynch timer and I was.

D, on 18 August 2011 - 09:48 PM, said:

After all that, inno.

Wow, quite a pile on. thought my vote might be necessary but i guess not as people were crawling out of the woodwork.

won't say much till night is over, but at the least we have a decent train to go off.

And D'riss finally posting - after the lynch...
Notice the underlying part.
If you thought your vote would be necessary, then that means you would take precautions to be here, and available to actually.... vote.
So, you were lurking. Ok, no big deal there.
But if you were lurking in order to vote, why didn't you say you were back earlier, and why did you not comment on anything at all, while you were here?

I wasn't lurking, I got here 10 minutes before the original scheduled lynch timer run-out. I didn't count on 5 people who had been, to that point, non existant, to come out of the woodwork, vote, and then fade away again. I had my vote where I wanted it, but if we needed a lynch i would have hammered Galain. (all of this was in my posts).



Then there is this.

Korlat, on 18 August 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:

I was questioning if it was informative, not the same thing as useless. 30 Minutes isn't gonna hurt anybody we had enough to make the lynch closer to the deadline. If he posted we might have learned something and i don't see why he didn't if he was inno(not in the last few minutes just in general when there was pressure). Potentially not allowed to post? There seem to be some weird posting rules in this one.

Personally i like the i am not allowed to talk but i know who it is idea so i am gonna go with it.

Vote Driss

So you are basing your vote off of someone who can't even justify his vote. And your logic is because he has to post in pictures, he gets to know who the scum are??? You aren't trying. This is a lazy vote ( but surprisingly not the laziest!!) That so little effort was put into this vote, which came IN YOUR FIRST POST AFTER THE LYNCH, this can't help but make me think you are not on the level.

Don't forget, Fener has had a boner for me since day 1. Do you really think he started out the game knowing who scum was? Really?


And this gets me.. i now know how Kara felt yesterday...

Karatallid, on 19 August 2011 - 08:22 AM, said:

Im not to sure i buy this case on D'riss.
Maybe i just dont understand it ill have another look when i get the chance.

There is no Case, it's Fener getting a stiffy for me. His "Case" consisted of pointing his tiny little boar penis at me and saying "He's scum!!"

no joke. Thats his case. That he got 2 people to follow him so early into day 1 is ridiculous.

Another lazy player... I can see the train building already... at least Osseric is willing to put some thought into looking at other players.

Osseric, on 19 August 2011 - 10:27 AM, said:

My feelings are mixed at the moment. Reading through the thread i'd excuse Thryllan and Fener at the moment. I may even go for one of the ones they are fingering, well maybe not Thryllan seem as he started the Galain train. I may go ahead and vote D'riss but Anthras does raise a better case against Kalse and Korlat being paired. Out of the two Kalse has been more vocal and quiet good at analysing the game early on, yet someone did point out that he is looking for potential symps rather than scummy play.

He even shows some backbone and questions the vote.

Osseric, on 19 August 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

If someone is a suspected symp you may never know who they are symping. A symp can just cause misdirection and muddle the thread up without actually helping their master. D'riss got 2 votes and then Anthras pushed agressively elsewhere but this could just be a ploy to get D'riss lynched. Why are people looking at D'riss?

Osseric, on 19 August 2011 - 02:54 PM, said:

so it is plausable? We could find out by lynching one of the two. I guarded Thryllan last night fyi. If you think thwey are highly likely to be town players then we could move on and Vote for D'riss along with them and see his CF or we could look elsewhere.

I'll tell you my CF, it's inno, thats why I am so upset about Fener's itty bitty weeny pointed my way. Because I know he is, either voting me based on gut, or is a symp trying to confuse things. neither of those things helps town.


And here is the best one.

Tulas Shorn, on 19 August 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

Barghast, on 19 August 2011 - 08:55 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 18 August 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

That was fun. I just had a meeting about our company's involuntary severance package. I'm not sure if you can classify getting a severence for losing your job a good thing but for those glass half full types there you go. Yeah!!!!

That sucks big time, sir.

Yeah. I'm a bit checked out at the moment. I probably won't be very active. So I'm going to go ahead and

vote d'riss

just to see if fener knows what he is talking about. if d'riss turns up innocent then it's time to roast the hog for being a huge distraction.

No reason, he's checked out, lets just jump on the train. fucking lazy. are we trying to win this game or are we just going to lynch randomly and hope we hit scum? This lazy ass vote turned this into a train, all because fener looks at me and gets aroused. fucking frustrating.


/end rant

[Anthras]

Kalse, on 19 August 2011 - 03:50 PM, said:

Also, for someone whose chief complaint seems distracting play(today Thyr and Fener, yesterday Osseric), you have been muddying the waters considerably Anthras.

Where exactly?

Other than Kara acting hurt all over the place for my choice of words over a comment I made about Thryllan (which btw didn't seem to offend Thryllan so much in the first place, so go figure) where have you noticed smoke clouds coming up from my direction.

Just because I don't act all buddy-buddy here.
We're strangers. Stranded. In the middle of awful weather. In a forsaken inn.
We're not here to PR or make friends.

From the beginning of the game I've said that everyone is a suspect, and everyone should be considered potential team scum member. And now on day 2, we're dealing with PI-ing people, weird ass roles for town (and why should they be town in the first place?) and people even considering strange conspiracies as to these two acting in such a manner simply because this might be a game with 3 scum members and two annoying town roles.


Distracting play, is just that. Distracting play. You either ignore it or remove it.
So, what gives?



PS:: I just got a call. Baboons are pulling restraining orders for being wrongly associated with some individual named 'Thryllan' .

[Anthras]

Also, I'd like to bring everyone's attention to Path-Shapers post who have been constantly 'broken' in regards to vote and votees.

Getting drunk too early, or have the tentacles already gotten you?

[D'riss]

Ok, all that being said, I don't think Thyr and Fener are killers. More likely they are either the victims of a scum ability, or they are insane symps of the actual killers. They seem to be throwing names around willy nilly (Fener at me, Thyr at like 5 different people). But with that info I think we can narrow the suspect pool a bit. Combine it with a look at the train and i'll see what I can come up with.

Eliminate Osseric, Fener, Thyr, and me and we have left: (Substitute my name for your name if you aren't me )

Tulas- Lazy voter, self admitted posting before catching up on the thread

Barghast- playing tight, I don't get a scum vibe but that doesn't mean anything.

Anthras- Pissing match with Karatallid, before that made some good points, has been pretty active

Kalse- tight game, made good points.

Karatallid- victim of sympage early (according to me) but after Tulas' last 10 posts I am begining to think Kara was just unlucky. Pissing match with anthras, imo it's 2 inno's butting heads

Silanah- Quiet, pops in and posts now and again. Dare I say...playing smooth

Korlat- minimal posting, quick to pull the trigger with little reason, fades in and out. I do get a scum vibe off of him.

Telas- one huge posting spree, (which to me was pretty weak points), has vanashed since.

Shadow- another that fades in and out. Much like Silanah. Another I want to keep an eye on.

Emur- I have no idea. I don't remember any of his posts.

These are all personal opinions and observations. Your mileage may vary. And before you say it... yeah I know, you can't eliminate/PI people this early, but for the sake of getting a good lynch day 2... thats what I am doing. As days go on, things obviously change.

Now to go look at the train.

[D'riss]

Thyr was first vote and was a self admitted Joke vote. I am not gonna go look for it. One thing of note, it was a joke vote, but he left it on there till the end, he never had to justify it. Very safe place for scum to be. (fitting with my insane symp theory).

Second vote was osseric. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here as there was no counter claim and it seems likely there is a guard in an M&P.

Kara has a reasonable vote, relatively early, though his vote does make it an official train, I don't see too much suspicious about this vote other than the last part. If he doesn't come back, he gets lynched, if he does come back, he looks even more guilty to Kara...kinda boxed Galain into a corner on that one.

Karatallid, on 18 August 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Im going to go ahead and lay my vote down.

Vote galain

I get the distinct impression he is laying low now and hoping someone else gets lynched.
Dont expect to see him back unless a train gets bult on him.

Telas' vote is because Galain has been gone. Of note, he is still showing doubts about osseric even after the reveal and non-counter. Perhaps pushing for an eventual Osseric (and potential town guard) lynch. This is a safe vote in the middle of the Train...it doesn't push it over the edge.. but it sure makes it likely that Galain is the lynch. This vote puts some scummy vibes on Telas. (to me)

Telas, on 18 August 2011 - 06:27 PM, said:

Another thought that is bothering me towards the end of this day. i know others have mentioned this, but i am also very bothered by galain's absence, especially in the light of all the accusations and activity surrounding him. frankly, just as i don't like letting erratic behavior such as continual vote switching go unaddressed, i also don't like people using the "wasn't around" excuse to avoid accusations and defending their vote.

so i am still exceptionally concerned about osseric, for my aforementioned reasons and now the additional reasons of his messing around with claiming to have a role and then claiming to be a symp, even jokingly so, and inviting us to lynch him and see

however, he does have a hard-on for galain, as does Thyrllan, and i think at this moment with all the day 1 WIFOM, i would like to maximize my assessment of our body of players. thus, here is what i think: we lynch galain for his absence, lack of defense for his voting or behavior, early nekkid lurking, and the gut reactions of two very noisy players (osseric and thyrllan)

if galain is indeed cult, i would personally ease up on my suspicion of osseric (and by proxy TS) and would start looking into both the other quiet ones, especially if they continue to hide on day 2, look into kara, since he seems to be in opposition to osseric and TS and thus so far could represent one of the two sides in this game, and look into D'riss as another who seems to be all over the board on this first day, perpetuating misinformation like the cult-dynamics (which yes could have been a simple misunderstanding, but i am not so sure)

remove vote


vote galain

Anthras makes it full blown train, and getting to deadline, thre is really no going back. That being said, he makes a good point. Lynch > no lynch. I have less problems with this vote than Telas'

Anthras, on 18 August 2011 - 08:13 PM, said:

Vote Galain

Lynch > no lynch, and time is running out.


Btw, Osseric are you still around here?

Emur does the lazy vote thing..voting to get a lynch. Either bored RI, or scum hiding in the middle of a train.

Emurlahn, on 18 August 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

If we believe Osseric's claim, my vote on Karat has lot its ground.

remove vote




People seem to agree on Galain

vote Galain

Now we get into the easy out votes... at this point it's inevitable. and ppl will just say they want a lynch. These last few votes are great scum hiding spots.

Kalse, on 18 August 2011 - 09:01 PM, said:

remove vote

Vote Galain

As he seems the only viable lynch, and I'd rather lynch than not.

Korlat didn't vote, but I thought this was interesting, he was around and going to vote. Just wanted to note that.

Korlat, on 18 August 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:

We have 7 and me and tulas should be around at least to add the last 2, but i agree with kalse on waiting till he says something if we can.

Remove Vote

I am pretty suspicious of shadow, he makes a good point, BUT who better to say "I suspect we are just low-post hunting" and know that we actually are...scum. Pretty suspicious of this vote.

Shadow, on 18 August 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 18 August 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

Shadow, on 18 August 2011 - 08:05 PM, said:

Are you really going to keep this up the whole game?

Thyrllan does not know of what Shadow speaks, but then Shadow is wont to babble many strange things, and Thyrllan looks on him kindly but pityingly, as an owner would their mentally-handicapped goldfish, for Shadow contains a smidgen of the glory that is the light of Thyrllan within himself.

I'll take that as a YES.



I'm not convinced this isn't a glorified low-poster hunt for Galain - Thyrllan goes on pure gut, Osseric is glad to vote anybody that's not him, Kara is in the same shape (although his case was a bit more developed) and so forth.

That being said, I can see the town moving and will lend my strength; I also saw Galain lurking nekkid several times but that is not offensive to me. Lack of participation can be distressing though

Vote Galain

I shall not be around at day's resolution, if one of you other gentlemen (or ladies) want to ensure full time for response, remove your own vote, for I must needs make some money now

Path-Shaper, on 18 August 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

It's day 1.

There's 35 minutes left of the day.


Players still alive: Barghast, Sorrit, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Galain, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

9 votes to lynch.
8 votes to go to night.

8 votes for Galain ( Thyrllan, Osseric, Karatallid, Telas, Anthras, Emurlahn, Kalse, Shadow)
1 vote for Osseric (Galain)
1 vote for Fener (Sorrit)
3 votes for Karatallid ( D'riss, Emurlahn)
1 vote for D'riss (Fener)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Silanah, Tulas Shorn

Barghy with a drive-by hammer. He clearly didn't read thread as we had more than 10 min left with 2-3 people available to vote. surprisingly i have little problem with this vote.

Barghast, on 18 August 2011 - 09:17 PM, said:

Phew, good thing I happened to be to log in instead of passing out after what feels like a gazillion beer.

Vote Galain

If I had to put my money down I would say

On Train Scum possibilities: Telas, Korlat, Shadow
Off train Scum: long shot, Silanah

[Telas]

so, as i mentioned on day 1, D'riss struck me as off, but I mostly attributed that to carelessness and newbie mistakes. now, i am not so sure. he has gone from being a bumbling idiot in day 1 to far more eloquently stating his case on day 2, especially with an increase in pressure. first, here are some of the highlights of his posting (pretty much all of his posts early on):

D, on 17 August 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

Anthras, on 17 August 2011 - 06:42 PM, said:

D, on 17 August 2011 - 06:34 PM, said:

Though I appreciate the support... Now it looks like you are symping me.

It kinda seems that way, doesn't it?
I mentioned both you and Silanah - yet Barghast only commented on the parts I mentioned about you.

D, on 17 August 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

in regards to cultists, the fact that Morghy went out of his way to say that the CF will differentiate cult vs. normal players leads me to think there has to be a cult.

So, what do you think?
Town vs Cult game?
Town vs Scum vs Cult game? Three faction game isn't the definition of M&P one though, is it?

Let's hope PS can shed some light into this.

My guess is town vs. cult ( 1 leader to start) vs. killer (either paired killers or 1 killer and 1/2 symp). It can still be M&P as long as it's all basic. Like 1 kill for the killers per night, 1 recruit per night. and very basic town roles.

Ok, so one of the earliest things d'riss does is throw out the good old "it's a cult game!" line. now while it is easy to discount from reading the OP, it is hella distracting as well, which is potentially an attempt to throw a wrench into the day one works and possibly look inno by acting like he didn't know what cult was and thus by such ignorance, seemed to be not cult

D, on 17 August 2011 - 07:49 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 17 August 2011 - 07:26 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 17 August 2011 - 02:02 PM, said:

hey hey..checking in.

vote karatallid

for checking in but really being checked out. i was wanting to vote for someone that hadn't posted at all but that turns out to be fener and i know where that usually leads.

What made you choose Kara?

There are any number of people that hopped on, made 1 post and then bolted. (Telas, Korlat, Thyr, Sorrit) Considering that your initial want was to vote for someone who had no votes, and there is someone that fits that criteria, yet you choose someone who's description is fit by at least 4 other players... this vote looks like signaling to me.

vote karatallid.

i'd like to see where this leads.

d'riss does go to great lengths to explain this action, but again he clings tenaciously to this vote throughout day one, even with responses from TS. I also think it was odd how strongly Kalse supported this vote, despite it being more of a prodding measure instead of an actual defensible direction

Fener, on 17 August 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

D, on 17 August 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

in regards to cultists, the fact that Morghy went out of his way to say that the CF will differentiate cult vs. normal players leads me to think there has to be a cult.

VOTE DRISS

so, yes fener has a boner for d'riss, and grows more adamant on day 2. has anyone considered that fener could be a finder and knows d'riss to be one of the big bads? a silenced finder would be ideal in a warped game playing toying with insanity (fener's silence and Thyr's penguin verbal tic). i wouldn't put it past morgy to be assigning these handicaps, but i guess we'll see tomorrow eh?

D, on 17 August 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 17 August 2011 - 09:48 PM, said:

Come now. A Cult role has no place in a M&P game and that's that. This whole confusion is purely a result of your lack of literary knowledge. Every man should know his Lovecraft.

I have no idea what lovecraft is. off to google.

more quotes demonstrating ignorance. i think d'riss is building a personality here

D, on 18 August 2011 - 06:47 PM, said:

Red words mid sentence are my responses to his lack of reading comprehension and general disinformation spreading.

Telas, on 18 August 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

ok, reading back through again, i see where you grabbed your train of thought. i mean, it seems like a weak case to me, esp since you seem to be just tagging along with D'riss who seems to have some really weak logic going on Its Day 1 (claiming there was cult I explained this to death, blame PS...I had never heard of lovecraft, tagging along with TS to see where the vote went I was calling him out thinking he would remove his vote as soon as a train got started...and lookie. He did just that., asking TS why he voted Kara when he explicitly explained his vote I asked him why he chose to vote for Kara over the 4 other people that fit the exact same criteria...way to twist my words.)

i;m not sure what the fuck is up with D'riss, but i think that he strikes me as more of a RI idiot than someone actually reliable. and i agree TS is untrustworthy but if he was a symp, why does he keep talking about being weaponless and asking for protection? i dunno, my gut tells me that TS and Osseric are in on something and Kara doesn't seem to be on their side, esp when digging at anthras' conversation with osseric (first time that was questioned iirc) if you think TS and osseric are roled town, then i could believe Kara is cult, but TS and osseric making and removing votes like their playing hopscotch is giving me the scum vibe

So now that you have called out TS as being roled ( brilliant move btw...and you are calling me the idiot?!?) and Osseric has revealed roled. Why aren't you voting Kara? In this post you state it seems that if that were the case, kara is likely scum, yet you are voting Galain. You aren't backing up your words and that is fishy.

and finally, here is d'riss' response to some of those accusations, for reference. it strikes me as OMGUS in flavor and really doesn't explain much. i don't know, it's hard to explain, but this all doesn't line up. why is he slowly demonstrating more mafia savvy as the game goes on especially with so many careless remarks early on. and he doesn't appear to do much case building until more recently. so i will throw in my vote with fener for now

Vote D'riss

[D'riss]

gotta get some work done. back in a bit

[Thyrllan]

Thyrllan has to laugh with not-so-silent mirth at the tragic irony of Anthras attacking penguin worthy Thyrllan with the accusation that he names too many suspects, and then subsequently reiterates that he, Anthras, considers EVERYBODY suspicious. Anthras is most penguin helpful, is he not? Ha ha ha.

Why people have become fixated on noble Thyrllan is beyond the understanding penguin of even all-knowing Thyrllan. Perhaps it is simple awestruck attraction to shining beauty of Thyrllan, which even Thyrllan, in his modest penguin sensibility, must admit is near-miraculous in the scale of its glory?

Thyrllan too sees no value or substance in the votes on D'riss, much like the votes on Galain the previous day. But, Thyrllan cautiously suggests, this is day 2, is it not? We should be past the silly shenangans of day 1 tomfoolery and penguin random sacrifice.

Thyrllan penguin has already made plain his dislike of Tulas Shorn. Thyrllan also likes not Telas, but freely admits this is an instinctive reaction against someone who would claim Thyrllan's own throne as manifestor of bounteous light.

The final thought of Thyrllan is that he remembers not even a glimmer of anything by Silanah. Silanah remains in perfect anonymity, hardly mentioned or even penguin thought of by any of our fell group. Is this something to be wary of?

[D'riss]

@ Telas it was ONE careless remark. I misunderstood PS.. how many times do you want me to say it?

Also, if Fener was a silenced finder why would he be coming after me on day 1??? He wouldn't get a find until night time. You are just hopping on the train. Just convinces me more that you are up to no good.

Fener is misguided, Tulas is just lazy. You and Korlat.. you are Fishy, in votes, posts, and all else Scum.

[Kalse]

Anthras, on 19 August 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Kalse, on 19 August 2011 - 03:50 PM, said:

Also, for someone whose chief complaint seems distracting play(today Thyr and Fener, yesterday Osseric), you have been muddying the waters considerably Anthras.

Where exactly?

Other than Kara acting hurt all over the place for my choice of words over a comment I made about Thryllan (which btw didn't seem to offend Thryllan so much in the first place, so go figure) where have you noticed smoke clouds coming up from my direction.


Very aggressive play draws attention, you've been throwing accusations at a lot of people, getting in pissing matches...That kind of stuff draws attention.



Just because I don't act all buddy-buddy here.
We're strangers. Stranded. In the middle of awful weather. In a forsaken inn.
We're not here to PR or make friends.

From the beginning of the game I've said that everyone is a suspect, and everyone should be considered potential team scum member. And now on day 2, we're dealing with PI-ing people, weird ass roles for town (and why should they be town in the first place?) and people even considering strange conspiracies as to these two acting in such a manner simply because this might be a game with 3 scum members and two annoying town roles.

I know you've said everyone is a suspect. I'm not really sure what the need for you saying that is, since frankly it's stating the obvious.

I don't think it's being suggested that we give Thyr and Fener a free pass. But not giving someone a free pass for their posting style and going after them specifically because of it are two different things.

Distracting play, is just that. Distracting play. You either ignore it or remove it.
So, what gives?

PS:: I just got a call. Baboons are pulling restraining orders for being wrongly associated with some individual named 'Thryllan' .

[D'riss]

ok really leaving now. back in a few

[Thyrllan]

Thyrllan notes that Telas' case on D'riss appears to rest on a change of personality penguin detected in D'riss. But, Telas studiously asks, why would scum wish to portray themselves ever as careless when all it does is attract attention in Mafia? It strikes glorious Thyrllan as more genuine stumbling than penguin anything else. Is it possible that D'riss is attempting to, as the commoners say, 'up their game' for the innos cause because he feels the pressure of his mistakes early in day 1? If so, then it is an effort to be applauded.

Thyrllan cannot shake the significantly worrying thought penguin that a train of no substance has been started and is already being exploited to its fullest potential by scum.

[Kalse]

I pretty much agree with Thyrllan. We have a 4 person train already. This looks a bit dodgy, particularly looking at the reasoning.

Fener- Hard to know why because he hasn't explained. (As a side note, I find Fener the scummier of him and Thyr. Thyr has been contributing considerably more)

Korlat- Apparently has a theory that Fener knows who the scum are. This seems very unlikely in M&P, and given that Fener was going for D'riss yesterday.

Tulas- The worst vote on the train for me. "To see if fener knows what he's talking about". To test Korlats theory. Even worse though is that he seems to be trying to set up further lynches by suggesting that if Fener is wrong, we lynch him.

Telas- Justifies his vote differently. I thought his case yesterday was pretty awful, but at least he's being consistent in his suspicion of D'riss. Personally don't agree with his assessment(I think there isn't that much change in D'riss' play. The ignorant playstyle Telas claims he builds is really just one event afaics), but this is probably the least dodgy vote- the most dodgy thing about it being that it is hopping on a train made up of dodgy votes with justification that I don't really see.

Edit: D'rek changed to D'riss. Stupid names.

This post has been edited by Kalse: 19 August 2011 - 06:08 PM

[Telas]

and a second thought i noted while digging back through for d'riss quotes. the other person i would like to lynch, albeit less so than d'riss at the moment hence my prior vote, is silanah. i agree he is riding smooth and never seems to get brought up that much. i think that with the scum, there are potentially two killers, and would hazard that on killer is silent and the other is more vocal. it's harder to pick out the silent ones for obvious reasons, but i think the representative quotes below demonstrate someone who posts enough not be be a lurker or low-poster, but who also stays away from controversy while looking like he is contributing something
[quote name='Silanah' timestamp='1313682714' post='889216']
Well...interesting day 1 developments.

[quote name='Kalse' timestamp='1313679261' post='889196']
[quote name='Karatallid' timestamp='1313653892' post='889109']
[quote name='Kalse' timestamp='1313630831' post='889025']
Remove vote

Vote karatallid

I think T

[Kalse]

Something funky's happened to that post Telas.

[Emurlahn]

Back and somewhat caught up.

I don't get the train on D'riss, as it doesn't have any substance.
And I agree with Thyrllan that it has gathered so many people on it smells of scum.



I'm going to read the thread again and see if I note something on a second read.