[Emurlahn]

Okaros, on 30 September 2011 - 02:08 AM, said:

remove vote


It is obvious that Emurlahn will not be getting lynched tonight. The case against him was not the greatest, but at the time I thought it was the best. I would like Gamelon to defend some of what has been said here. It seems as though he/she may legitimately desire more action and discussion and so has basically disturbed everyone in some way. I commend the attempt, but there is some confusion, at least on my part, in regard to what gamelon has said recently. I'm not sure how much time is left, so I'll

Vote Gamelon


and let it be known that I encourage a defense on Game's part. Might seem like I'm jumping on a train here, but realistically speaking I would rather my vote be for someone who seems mildly suspicious/dangerous than for no one at all (especially since we've only a matter of hours left in the day).

According to my calculations, 4? hours left.

[Emurlahn]

although I doubt D'rek will stay up till 2 AM to wait tell us Day may have timed out.



my rough skim suggests that I have 2 votes. Serc and Okaros each have 1. Gamelon is leading with 8 votes now.


this is not exact though, so don't quote me on it.

[Atrahal]

I was hoping Gam would get back before I headed to bed. But that being the case, I will leave with a vote for him. More for it being the largest train, and we need the info from a lynch.

vote Gamelon

[Galain]

Atrahal, on 30 September 2011 - 12:47 AM, said:

Gam is voting for Serc because he says Serc is not looking hard enough at other players.

Serc also really over-reacted to being associated oh-so-briefly with Gamelon.

I just can't decide if Gamelon is being set up or not - it seems counterproductive for a team-mate to signal, since we'll just go after the signaller after that, and anyone who's not on Gamelon's team will likely be happy to go along.

[Ruse]

Galain, on 30 September 2011 - 02:31 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 30 September 2011 - 12:47 AM, said:

Gam is voting for Serc because he says Serc is not looking hard enough at other players.

Serc also really over-reacted to being associated oh-so-briefly with Gamelon.

I just can't decide if Gamelon is being set up or not - it seems counterproductive for a team-mate to signal, since we'll just go after the signaller after that, and anyone who's not on Gamelon's team will likely be happy to go along.

Not unless you manage to signal without being caught out by others, obviously. If you're captain obvious in your signaling then yeah, counterproductive.

The only thing that cautions me against a Gamelon vote is that it seems like another lynch where we string up the guy who actually gets things moving. However in this game, the participation has been good so that looks to be less of a concern.

Hope he's a different faction -

Vote Gamelon

[Silanah]

Remove Vote

I really threw my vote onto Game to gauge responses (finally had some time to do something constructive, kinda). A few voted, simply to be on a train, probably.
I know it's day 1, and good cases are rare... But Game doesn't strike me as the best lynch here. I wouldl prefer Serc or Okaros. The serc case has been made, so I'm going to make a brief Okaros theory.

Okaros, on 30 September 2011 - 02:08 AM, said:

remove vote


It is obvious that Emurlahn will not be getting lynched tonight. The case against him was not the greatest, but at the time I thought it was the best. I would like Gamelon to defend some of what has been said here. It seems as though he/she may legitimately desire more action and discussion and so has basically disturbed everyone in some way. I commend the attempt, but there is some confusion, at least on my part, in regard to what gamelon has said recently. I'm not sure how much time is left, so I'll

Vote Gamelon


and let it be known that I encourage a defense on Game's part. Might seem like I'm jumping on a train here, but realistically speaking I would rather my vote be for someone who seems mildly suspicious/dangerous than for no one at all (especially since we've only a matter of hours left in the day).

Again, I know it's day 1, but why do you NEED to vote for someone? Could be your team? Game is not as suspicious in my mind, compared to several others.

Okaros talking about the Usurper.

Okaros, on 29 September 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

I agree that it is possible that Gamelon is targeting Emur and feeling safe it since they may be sharing civil servant roles. This in itself is interesting, but does it warrant a vote I wonder? Tiam wants us to target the Usurper. All well and good, but it is doubtful that we could nail the Usurper this early in the game. Chances are the fellow is laying low until he can recruit some people.

I love this game because it is difficult to justify pushing a lynch on someone even if we know (or have a good idea of) what role they have. Knowing that Emur and Game might be civil servants only makes them a target if you know they aren't on your team. The only legitimate target would be a faction leader. So confusing and fantastic.

I will read over the thread again in hopes to pick up on some things I may have missed. Maybe looking into the alleged signalling will help narrow down a potential faction leader.

Chances are the fellow is laying low... or being active, and telling people that the usurper would lay low. Get it?

Okaros, on 29 September 2011 - 09:49 PM, said:

Checking in from the library. I'll just quickly address Gamelon while I'm here before heading home.

Gamelon, on 29 September 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

Okaros, on 29 September 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

I agree that it is possible that Gamelon is targeting Emur and feeling safe it since they may be sharing civil servant roles. This in itself is interesting, but does it warrant a vote I wonder? Tiam wants us to target the Usurper. All well and good, but it is doubtful that we could nail the Usurper this early in the game. Chances are the fellow is laying low until he can recruit some people.

I love this game because it is difficult to justify pushing a lynch on someone even if we know (or have a good idea of) what role they have. Knowing that Emur and Game might be civil servants only makes them a target if you know they aren't on your team. The only legitimate target would be a faction leader. So confusing and fantastic.

I will read over the thread again in hopes to pick up on some things I may have missed. Maybe looking into the alleged signalling will help narrow down a potential faction leader.

I don't see why not having much chance of finding the Usurper prevents us from trying to find him. Perhaps someone doesn't want the thread to be chasing him too hard?

You are correct in saying that just because it is difficult we shouldn't give up on tracking the Usurper. I realize you are trying to prompt discussion, but I feel that my point stands. After going through the thread once more, there is no evidence that the Usurper has made any overt moves. And if the usurper is any good, I think he/she would avoid drawing attention this early in the game. The Usurper, for obvious reasons, would benefit from buying as much time as possible and keeping his/her head down (just speculation, but it seems to be reasonable). Though this may be the case right now, it is very possible others may find some sign that I missed, and I encourage fresh sets of eyes to look for for evidence.

The way Okaros uses "the usurper" everytime, without ever saying he or she, is awkward and unnescesary. He really goes in depth, without a huge prompt. Very suspicious.

That's what I have. Giving other options for people to consider.

Vote Okaros

That being said, a Gamelon lynch is okay. He is suspicious, and it is day 1. I just find him less suspicious than Okaros.

[Silanah]

Hmm. I don't know what the vote count is, and if my thing even mattered. Also, my login timed out, and I had to retype that last post, sorry if it seems angry and/or rushed.

[Kessobahn]

I'm here and caught up.

It appears that Gamelon is going to be the lynch today, no matter what happens at this stage.

I do agree that he is trying to avoid being lynched, but doesn't everyone, especially in a faction game?

Honestly I am somewhat more interested in Silanah's case on Okaros at this time, but we only have an hour and a half left, so we aren't going to get that lynch going. The Cult is weak now and it should be exterminated, root and branch if possible.

But, we do need a lynch, so ...
Vote Gamelon

[Emurlahn]

gamelon 10

Emurlahn 2

Okaros 2


Serc 1

[Okaros]

Silanah, on 30 September 2011 - 03:18 AM, said:

Remove Vote

I really threw my vote onto Game to gauge responses (finally had some time to do something constructive, kinda). A few voted, simply to be on a train, probably.
I know it's day 1, and good cases are rare... But Game doesn't strike me as the best lynch here. I wouldl prefer Serc or Okaros. The serc case has been made, so I'm going to make a brief Okaros theory.

Okaros, on 30 September 2011 - 02:08 AM, said:

remove vote


It is obvious that Emurlahn will not be getting lynched tonight. The case against him was not the greatest, but at the time I thought it was the best. I would like Gamelon to defend some of what has been said here. It seems as though he/she may legitimately desire more action and discussion and so has basically disturbed everyone in some way. I commend the attempt, but there is some confusion, at least on my part, in regard to what gamelon has said recently. I'm not sure how much time is left, so I'll

Vote Gamelon


and let it be known that I encourage a defense on Game's part. Might seem like I'm jumping on a train here, but realistically speaking I would rather my vote be for someone who seems mildly suspicious/dangerous than for no one at all (especially since we've only a matter of hours left in the day).

Again, I know it's day 1, but why do you NEED to vote for someone? Could be your team? Game is not as suspicious in my mind, compared to several others.

Okaros talking about the Usurper.

Okaros, on 29 September 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

I agree that it is possible that Gamelon is targeting Emur and feeling safe it since they may be sharing civil servant roles. This in itself is interesting, but does it warrant a vote I wonder? Tiam wants us to target the Usurper. All well and good, but it is doubtful that we could nail the Usurper this early in the game. Chances are the fellow is laying low until he can recruit some people.

I love this game because it is difficult to justify pushing a lynch on someone even if we know (or have a good idea of) what role they have. Knowing that Emur and Game might be civil servants only makes them a target if you know they aren't on your team. The only legitimate target would be a faction leader. So confusing and fantastic.

I will read over the thread again in hopes to pick up on some things I may have missed. Maybe looking into the alleged signalling will help narrow down a potential faction leader.

Chances are the fellow is laying low... or being active, and telling people that the usurper would lay low. Get it?

Okaros, on 29 September 2011 - 09:49 PM, said:

Checking in from the library. I'll just quickly address Gamelon while I'm here before heading home.

Gamelon, on 29 September 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

Okaros, on 29 September 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

I agree that it is possible that Gamelon is targeting Emur and feeling safe it since they may be sharing civil servant roles. This in itself is interesting, but does it warrant a vote I wonder? Tiam wants us to target the Usurper. All well and good, but it is doubtful that we could nail the Usurper this early in the game. Chances are the fellow is laying low until he can recruit some people.

I love this game because it is difficult to justify pushing a lynch on someone even if we know (or have a good idea of) what role they have. Knowing that Emur and Game might be civil servants only makes them a target if you know they aren't on your team. The only legitimate target would be a faction leader. So confusing and fantastic.

I will read over the thread again in hopes to pick up on some things I may have missed. Maybe looking into the alleged signalling will help narrow down a potential faction leader.

I don't see why not having much chance of finding the Usurper prevents us from trying to find him. Perhaps someone doesn't want the thread to be chasing him too hard?

You are correct in saying that just because it is difficult we shouldn't give up on tracking the Usurper. I realize you are trying to prompt discussion, but I feel that my point stands. After going through the thread once more, there is no evidence that the Usurper has made any overt moves. And if the usurper is any good, I think he/she would avoid drawing attention this early in the game. The Usurper, for obvious reasons, would benefit from buying as much time as possible and keeping his/her head down (just speculation, but it seems to be reasonable). Though this may be the case right now, it is very possible others may find some sign that I missed, and I encourage fresh sets of eyes to look for for evidence.

The way Okaros uses "the usurper" everytime, without ever saying he or she, is awkward and unnescesary. He really goes in depth, without a huge prompt. Very suspicious.

That's what I have. Giving other options for people to consider.

Vote Okaros

That being said, a Gamelon lynch is okay. He is suspicious, and it is day 1. I just find him less suspicious than Okaros.

Well, it is late in the day but I wish to clear up some of these accusations. I understand that we are all probably reticent to vote for anyone just because we NEED to. However, as has been stated by somebody already, the information from a lynch would help. And lets face it, statistically speaking it is less likely we nab one of our fellows this early in the game. I think we can agree that we are all worried about that eventuality. That isn't to say I randomly chose Gamelon just because I feel we need to lynch someone(no matter what); the reasons for the vote are mentioned in some of the above posts (my reason being primarily Gamelon's unclear posts).

You are probably right in that my use of the word "usurper" may be awkward. It is a habit of mine to try and remain gender neutral in my writing; sorry for the poor writing.

I was at first suspicious of such a late vote change, Silanah, however your follow up post indicates that you were unaware of the remaining time. I hope I have addressed some of these accusation to your satisfaction.

[Path-Shaper]

Vote Count

It is 225 AD (Day 1). 2 hours and 13 minutes remaining
25 Players still alive: Atrahal, Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karosis, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Silanah, Sorritt, Telas, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tiamatha

13 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Serc ( Gamelon )
1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Serc )
1 Vote for Okaros ( Silanah )
10 Votes for Gamelon ( Osseric, Ruse, Kessobahn, Sorritt, Emurlahn, Barghast, Korlat, Omtose, Okaros, Atrahal )

Players not voted: Galain, Hood's Path, Karosis, Kaschan, Meanas, Mockra, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tiamatha

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 30 September 2011 - 03:57 AM

[Silanah]

Just realized I'm being a bitch by switching so late. No possibility of a different lynch. Maybe it's my need to sleep, but I didn't account for the information from any player's lynch, regardless if it's who I think is the most suspicious.

Remove Vote

Vote Gamelon

Night, I sleep now.

[Serc]

Ok. Gamelon it is.

Remove vote

Vote Gamelon

[Serc]

Actually...

Remove vote

I realize my vote opens Game to the hammer, so I can wait around until day's end to see if he'll show up.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 1 hour and 31 minutes remaining
25 Players still alive: Atrahal, Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karosis, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Silanah, Sorritt, Telas, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tiamatha

13 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Serc ( Gamelon )
11 Votes for Gamelon ( Osseric, Ruse, Kessobahn, Silanah, Sorritt, Emurlahn, Barghast, Korlat, Omtose, Okaros, Atrahal )

Players not voted: Galain, Hood's Path, Karosis, Kaschan, Meanas, Mockra, Rashan, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tiamatha

[Path-Shaper]

I'm off for the night, back in 6 or 7 hoursish. You know the deal if you lynch in that time. If all NAs are in, I should be able to resolve night then, too.

Good night!

[Emurlahn]

roughly an hour left. i'm gettign a feeling this will be a no lynch.

[Galain]

Serc, on 30 September 2011 - 04:11 AM, said:

Actually...

Remove vote

I realize my vote opens Game to the hammer, so I can wait around until day's end to see if he'll show up.

... what the hell's the point of that if there's only an hour left? Talk about odd.

Vote Gamelon

Because a Day One lynch is simply a good idea in such a large game, and this one seems to have a certain self-fulfilling inevitability. Which is suspicious in and of itself.

[Emurlahn]

Serc, on 30 September 2011 - 04:11 AM, said:

Actually...

Remove vote

I realize my vote opens Game to the hammer, so I can wait around until day's end to see if he'll show up.

tick



tock



24 mins left.



just saying

[Osseric]

Gah, I ended up stuck away from the internets longer than expected.

Back and catching up