[tiam]

QuickTidal, on 20 April 2011 - 01:03 PM, said:

tiam, on 20 April 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

On the subject of fake accents I thought Russel crowew in 'Robin Hood: D Day landing craft at the end' was interesting. Especially when I thought he was excellent in Master and Commander: The Boring Side of the World or Paul Bettany: Naturalist in the Galapagos.

Fixed.

i for one welcome our naturalist overlords.

Seriuosly though I thought Bettany was really good in that as was Crowe and a young octavian (from HBO Rome)

[rhulad]

QuickTidal, on 20 April 2011 - 12:59 PM, said:

rhulad, on 19 April 2011 - 10:01 PM, said:

Eddie Murphy in any film after 1988.

Fixed.

Thank you, you are correct.

[QuickTidal]

tiam, on 20 April 2011 - 01:19 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 20 April 2011 - 01:03 PM, said:

tiam, on 20 April 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

On the subject of fake accents I thought Russel crowew in 'Robin Hood: D Day landing craft at the end' was interesting. Especially when I thought he was excellent in Master and Commander: The Boring Side of the World or Paul Bettany: Naturalist in the Galapagos.

Fixed.

i for one welcome our naturalist overlords.

Seriuosly though I thought Bettany was really good in that as was Crowe and a young octavian (from HBO Rome)

My best friend LOVES that movie...and I didn't..and I ALWAYS rib him about it with my false titles. LOL It had its merits, it just didn't capture me...at the time...that was years ago though so perhaps it's worth re-watching again.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Jesus christ guys....get off the Nic cage thing.

It's the "I hateses the movieses" thread

not the closet Cage Fanboyism thread. Holy fuck!

[Tsundoku]

cerveza_fiesta, on 14 April 2011 - 05:11 PM, said:

No 2 thing that i noticed on my LOTR rewatch. Every time they arrive at a place, the camera zooms in on somebody's face and they're like "THE MINES OF MORIA" or "THE PLAINS OF ROHAN" or "MORDOR" to the other quest-mates with some idiotic awestruck expression on their face and a half-whispery voice inflection. The line is just completely unnecessary and contrived....think if you were driving around with a buddy and you arrive at the mall and he's like "THE MALL" and you're like "yep, it sure is retard, let's go". Or you're on a trip to mexico and your wife gets off the plane and looks around saying "MEXICO" and you're like "yes honey, that's the name of the country we're in, anything else brilliant to say?"A small subtitle is a perfectly legitimate way to circumvent lines like that.

Abyss, on 14 April 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

Which raises another point of HATESES... the 'The Audience Is Stoopid' attitude that is so prevalent in movies, especially big Hollywood.

You DO realise which market it is for whom 99% of Hollywood "blockbusters" are made, right?

Not to seem U-know-what-bashing, sorry, but this is after all, the country that gives us (supposedly) highbrow news reporting with subtitles or voiceover announcements like "Today in Paris, France ..." or " ... Rome, Italy ... "

WE FUCKING WELL KNOW WHERE PARIS AND ROME ARE YOU FUCKING MORONS!!! Oh, that's right, an alarmingly large proportion of your original audience don't even know who their own leader is, but they do know who Paris, Hilton is dating. Oops, sorry, my bad ...

EDIT: on topic, the #1 thing I loathe in movies is when people (especially supposedly "smart characters") do stupid things for no good reason, other than the fact that if they did the smart thing, the movie would be over in 20 minutes with the bad guys always winning. Too many examples to mention.

This post has been edited by Sombra: 25 April 2011 - 07:01 AM

[Mentalist]

cerveza_fiesta, on 18 April 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

Sequels to good movies that diverge from the format of the original so wildly or explore a topic in such a poor, half-assed way that it completely ruins the sequel and the original simultaneously.

Cube Zero - I want to murder the people that made that movie.

you haven't seen Cube 2, I gather? that came BEFORE cube zero.

[HoosierDaddy]

Ugh.

And, I hate that movie producer which makes retarded quasi-copies of soon to be released films to take advantage of the easily confused. I.e., Johnny got Transmorphers for Christmas, not Transformers.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 25 April 2011 - 07:54 AM

[Aptorian]

Sombra, on 25 April 2011 - 06:56 AM, said:

Not to seem U-know-what-bashing, sorry, but this is after all, the country that gives us (supposedly) highbrow news reporting with subtitles or voiceover announcements like "Today in Paris, France ..." or " ... Rome, Italy ... "

WE FUCKING WELL KNOW WHERE PARIS AND ROME ARE YOU FUCKING MORONS!!! Oh, that's right, an alarmingly large proportion of your original audience don't even know who their own leader is, but they do know who Paris, Hilton is dating. Oops, sorry, my bad ...

Actually I don't see any problem with that. It's just protocol. It's not really necessary when referring to well known cities but what if we're talking about the a small town in Paris? Or an airport? What about the capital of Venezuela?

[King Bear]

Mentalist, on 25 April 2011 - 07:11 AM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 18 April 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

Cube Zero

cube zero.

There is a cube zero?

[Mentalist]

Battle Plaptypus, on 25 April 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:

Sombra, on 25 April 2011 - 06:56 AM, said:

Not to seem U-know-what-bashing, sorry, but this is after all, the country that gives us (supposedly) highbrow news reporting with subtitles or voiceover announcements like "Today in Paris, France ..." or " ... Rome, Italy ... "

WE FUCKING WELL KNOW WHERE PARIS AND ROME ARE YOU FUCKING MORONS!!! Oh, that's right, an alarmingly large proportion of your original audience don't even know who their own leader is, but they do know who Paris, Hilton is dating. Oops, sorry, my bad ...

Actually I don't see any problem with that. It's just protocol. It's not really necessary when referring to well known cities but what if we're talking about the a small town in Paris? Or an airport? What about the capital of Venezuela?

please, as long as Chavez is in power, everyone will know where Caracas is.

[Mentalist]

Quickie Ben, on 25 April 2011 - 08:18 AM, said:

Mentalist, on 25 April 2011 - 07:11 AM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 18 April 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

Cube Zero

cube zero.

There is a cube zero?

Hollywood's law for killing franchises:
make an okay movie that will pay for itself and gain a following, but won't be anything great.
make a sequel, disregarding everyhting that made the original good, but throw more money and ads to it. dissapoint the fans and newcomers to the franchise alike.
wait a few years.
make a total piece of crap threquel, to milk the franchise to death.
start looking for another idea.

[Tsundoku]

Battle Plaptypus, on 25 April 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:

Actually I don't see any problem with that. It's just protocol. It's not really necessary when referring to well known cities but what if we're talking about the a small town in Paris?

Buh?

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Or an airport? What about the capital of Venezuela?

I'm saying it's not necessary for the stuff everyone should know. Especially when given context by the story.

Quote

please, as long as Chavez is in power, everyone will know where Caracas is.

True. Plus Venezuelan women are hawt (not relevant to the topic, but important to mention nonetheless).

[Abyss]

Sombra, on 25 April 2011 - 06:56 AM, said:

Abyss, on 14 April 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

Which raises another point of HATESES... the 'The Audience Is Stoopid' attitude that is so prevalent in movies, especially big Hollywood.

You DO realise which market it is for whom 99% of Hollywood "blockbusters" are made, right?
...

Yes.
This is same audience that made Paris Hilton a celebrity, deeply cares for who THE BACHELOR selects, dictates that a rerun of COPS makes more money than an scripted drama, and is responsible for the rest of us having to be subjected to enough Willy & Kate's Excellent Wedding to make me long for the Thames to flood extensive and wash Buckingham Palace and Westminster Abbey into the sea where fish can shite all over all things royal until it dissolves... not realizing that if an alien race were monitoring our broadcasts, said aliens would be entirely justified in liquifying our entire worlds based on any of the above.

And as soon as the entertainment powers-that-be stop pandering to these idiot masses, the collective IQ of the world will rise a full ten points.

Anyways, i can dream.

Oooo.... TRANSFORMERS is on... gotta go!

[Aptorian]

I haven't even seen this film, but it sounds amazing:

[Slow Ben]

I watched that when it came out. The only thing i remember from it was the fight scenes were just ridiculous.

They looked like they were dancing! Not fighting!

[cerveza_fiesta]

Quickie Ben, on 25 April 2011 - 08:18 AM, said:

Mentalist, on 25 April 2011 - 07:11 AM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 18 April 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

Cube Zero

cube zero.

There is a cube zero?

NEVER EVER WATCH IT.
FOR FUCKING REAL.

WORST INCIDENCE OF SEQUEL RUINING THE ORIGINAL EVER.

[Gothos]

worse than Jaws 4?

[QuickTidal]

Battle Plaptypus, on 26 April 2011 - 07:08 AM, said:

I haven't even seen this film, but it sounds amazing:

Where Mortal Kombat 1 was campy awesomeness and has many GOOD traits and is considered a cult classic...

...MK: Annihilation pisses all over the first movie and makes it a hokey travesty of the largest proportions. Do not watch it.

[Mentalist]

cerveza_fiesta, on 26 April 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

Quickie Ben, on 25 April 2011 - 08:18 AM, said:

Mentalist, on 25 April 2011 - 07:11 AM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 18 April 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

Cube Zero

cube zero.

There is a cube zero?

NEVER EVER WATCH IT.
FOR FUCKING REAL.

WORST INCIDENCE OF SEQUEL RUINING THE ORIGINAL EVER.

all of this, with an important correction
Cube Zero is a Threequel.

DO NOT WATCH HYPERCUBE!!!!!

[cerveza_fiesta]

Yeah, don't watch either. Agreed. Hypercube is almost as bad. Not quite, but very close to being as bad as cube zero for ruining the original.

The beauty of the original is that they're trapped in the cube. You don't know why, you don't have any idea how big the cube maze is, you don't know what makes it work, you have no sight outside the cube whatsoever and that mystery makes the whole plot and craziness of the movie click, despite some annoying characters, generally B-grade acting and some campy special effects.

Hypercube does the same thing, but provides exterior views (which partially kills the mystery of the cube) and enhances the special effects with CGI, but does a shitty job of it, which makes it worse. All of a sudden there is less to offset the movie's inherent B-quality.

Cube zero is a full B-C grade behind the scenes look at the cube, showing control rooms and providing the reason for the cube's existence...which effectively destroys the one and only remaining shred of the mystery that knit the first movie together.