[Tapper]

While he is somewhat irritating at times, I think he wasn't too bad in National Treasure Bad Lieutenant, Port of Call New Orleans.

[tiam]

McLovin, on 08 April 2011 - 01:51 PM, said:

How the hell do you accidentally watch something?

A TV falls on your head, entrapping it, then while the paramedics are prying it off you, it magically comes on and shows you Ghost Rider?

Your saying that like it doesnt always happen...

On a serious note I like comic adaptations and after I realised this wasnt one I couldnt find the remote.

[Use Of Weapons]

But Ghost Rider is a comic book adaptation.

[Slow Ben]

jitsukerr, on 18 April 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

But Ghost Rider is a complete pile of burning dogshit

Yep.


I have a love/hate relationship with cage. When he makes movies like Raising Arizona, Bad Lieutenant and Kick Ass I love him. When he makes Knowing and Next....I do not.

[Abyss]

re Nic Cage...

GONE IN 60 SECONDS did not completely suck.

FACE/OFF is brilliant.

Notice no one has mentioned THE MAGICIAN'S APPRENTICE, probably because no one saw it.

[Aptorian]

jitsukerr, on 18 April 2011 - 01:30 PM, said:

For me it's the actor. I like films he's in despite him being in them. I liked Ghost Rider because they did the visuals so well and I'm a total sucker for comic adaptations

You liked Ghost Rider... despite Nick Cage being in it... whoooah. I mean Ghost Rider was bad. Really, really bad. It was sort of a mix between Spawn, the crow and Constantine. Only the story was awful and the CGI not that great.

Ghost Rider is another one of those (anti-)super heroes that need a dark and gritty kind of story and setting to shine. There was not nearly enough blood and damnation and hell fire going on in that film.

And Nick Cage was indeed completely the wrong choice for that character.

Tapper, on 18 April 2011 - 01:50 PM, said:

While he is somewhat irritating at times, I think he wasn't too bad in National Treasure Bad Lieutenant, Port of Call New Orleans.

I've mentioned this before, if you just look at National Treasure as a silly adventure film with historical elements, instead of comparing it with Indiana Jones or Tomb Raider and that kind of stuff, it's an okay series. The characters are likeable enough and the dan brown type of hoaky conspiracy stuff is fun. Especially since I know very little about all that early American history they get into.

I bet that a lot of the people that dislike National Treasure simply hates it because Nick Cage were in those films.

Abyss, on 18 April 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

Notice no one has mentioned THE MAGICIAN'S APPRENTICE, probably because no one saw it.

The Sorcerors Apprentice.

I did mention it on the other page. I did see it and I thought it was "okay". Not great but not bad either. What saved the film was Molina and Cage. They were great opponents in this story and they pretty much carried the film to the crappy finish.

I wouldn't mind watching a sequel if they'd just get a better script.

This post has been edited by Battle Plaptypus: 18 April 2011 - 05:01 PM

[cerveza_fiesta]

Sequels to good movies that diverge from the format of the original so wildly or explore a topic in such a poor, half-assed way that it completely ruins the sequel and the original simultaneously.

Cube Zero - I want to murder the people that made that movie.

Blair witch 2 - Loved the original, No 2 is a steaming pile of feces.

[Beezulbubba]

U.S. Department of Homeland Security replacing color coded terror alert system.

[BladeArmedZombieRaptor]

Oh man.... hahahaha! The Wickerman was so bad. So very very bad.

Also, I love Conan.

[Traveller]

Abyss, on 14 April 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

Which raises another point of HATESES... the 'The Audience Is Stoopid' attitude that is so prevalent in movies, especially big Hollywood.

Yep. I remember watching X-Men, and wondering why every.. single.. time.. they showed Mystique in disguise, they had to have her look at the camera while her eyes turned yellow. 'Hey Audience, you may not have noticed, but This is really Mystique! Here she is again! And now, disguised again! In Case You Left Your Brain At Home!'

[QuickTidal]

Yeah, I saw and enjoyed SORCERER'S APPRENTICE. Cage and Molina's rivalry makes the flick, but it was pretty solid little urban fantasy outing.

I also am a big fan of the NATIONAL TREASURE flicks not for any other reason than they are fun Dan Brown-ish historical adventure thrillers. Popcorn fare that is fun fun IMHO. I don't think too hard about them and Cage is actually quite good in his role.

I haven't seen SEASON OF THE WITCH...but I wanted to see that more for Ron Perlman than Cage anyways.

Oh, and Cage's turn in the remake of the thai thriller BANGKOK DANGEROUS is actually quite visceral.

[Aptorian]

Maybe Bangkok Dangerous got better, but half an hour in I had watched a film so bad that not even Steven Seagal or Van Dam would have accepted to star in it. It was painful to watch in its awkward genericness.

[rhulad]

Eddie Murphy.

[Mott]

Grimface Insultbear, on 14 April 2011 - 12:56 PM, said:

Four Australians set off into the jungle, without proper maps, proper clothes, tiny backpacks and maybe enough water for a couple of hours. They plan on spending almost a week in the jungle...fucking stupid!

I hate that as well. At work we have a name for those type of people: tourists. Working summers in a TIC really leaves you massively jaded, so as annoying as it is I can actually believe people would be that stupid.

cerveza_fiesta, on 14 April 2011 - 05:11 PM, said:

Badly faked accents. Especially british ones. They're like the easiest ones of all too. How does a director hire an actor who can't fake a decent accent when they're casting a film requiring the actor to be a brit? Totally ruins it for me every time.

Sometimes I actually really enjoy bad accents like in Highlander, i'm not sure I like them for the right reasons but I get a good laugh out of them, especially Scottish ones.

Pretty much the whole of X-Men 3 is just...ugh, the most enjoyable thing about it was laughing at how bad it was. Die Hard 4 was over the top ridiculous but I liked it for that one guy who kept falling out of buildings and hellicopters and remained alive to fall from great bone shattering heights once again.

rhulad, on 19 April 2011 - 10:01 PM, said:

Eddie Murphy.

Yeah his output the last few decades has been shocking but I have to admit my love for Beverly Hills Cop, Coming to America and Trading Places even if I am alone in that love.

I don't like it when CGI becomes to overbearing in movies. New Star Wars seems to be leaping out at me here, the second one just felt like it was all CGI no...anything else of any use. Also when comedy movies do a complete 180 and become all serious and loose all the comedy elements. T.V. shows tend to be worse for that though.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Mott, on 19 April 2011 - 11:12 PM, said:

I don't like it when CGI becomes to overbearing in movies. New Star Wars seems to be leaping out at me here, the second one just felt like it was all CGI no...anything else of any use. Also when comedy movies do a complete 180 and become all serious and loose all the comedy elements. T.V. shows tend to be worse for that though.

I used to gripe about that a lot, especially when CGI was in its early years. It was the 3D of the 90's for sure and stood out like a very, very sore thumb when it was done badly - which was basically all the time. It seemed to go from the occasional cool sprinkling (like the brontosaurs in Jurassic park, unachievable by any other means) to outright jarring eye-offending fake looking shit like Jar Jar Binx in Episode 1.

Amongst all the bad early CGI, it was very refreshing to see it well-implemented on occasion though, like TITANIC. I could have cared less for Leo and Winslet's romeo & juliet bullshit (except for the boob scene) but the minute that ocean liner started going down, the CGI turned all kinds of awesome. Other shining examples of good early CGI were "Terminator 2" T-1000 effects (all awesome), "the matrix" and "Final Fantasy Spirits WIthin", which was a bona fide groundbreaker for the medium regardless of what you thought of the content.

These days, it's so ubiquitous in film and it's come such a long way that I really don't mind it so much anymore. Even in Episode 2 and 3 of star wars, which are like 99% CGI, you gotta admit it blends a LOT better into the film than it used to.

[Gothos]

As far as CGI goes, I must say I miss the old 'drawn' style animated movies like The Lion King.


OK, to add something - what I hate in movies is Hollywood Tactics.

[tiam]

jitsukerr, on 18 April 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

But Ghost Rider is a comic book adaptation.

The mistake yopuve made there my good sir is confusing 'comic adaptation' with 'Cashing in on the succss of other Marvel movies and putting sub par special effects in a frankly ridiculous plot allowing Cage to over act badly enough that I actually lost the will to live'.

Sorcerers apprentice was made by Molina, who actually also made the Prince of Persia film entertaining for a terrible film way away from the games plot.

On the subject of fake accents I thought Russel crowew in 'Robin Hood: D Day landing craft at the end' was interesting. Especially when I thought he was excellent in Master and Commander.

Eidt- Eddie Murphy and Haunted mansion was the last straw. However Beverley Hills cop and trading places aree excellent.

This post has been edited by tiam: 20 April 2011 - 12:27 PM

[QuickTidal]

rhulad, on 19 April 2011 - 10:01 PM, said:

Eddie Murphy in any film after 1988.

Fixed.

[QuickTidal]

tiam, on 20 April 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

On the subject of fake accents I thought Russel crowew in 'Robin Hood: D Day landing craft at the end' was interesting. Especially when I thought he was excellent in Master and Commander: The Boring Side of the World or Paul Bettany: Naturalist in the Galapagos.

Fixed.

[Abyss]

Battle Plaptypus, on 18 April 2011 - 05:00 PM, said:

...
I've mentioned this before, if you just look at National Treasure as a silly adventure film with historical elements, instead of comparing it with Indiana Jones or Tomb Raider and that kind of stuff, it's an okay series. The characters are likeable enough and the dan brown type of hoaky conspiracy stuff is fun. Especially since I know very little about all that early American history they get into.

I bet that a lot of the people that dislike National Treasure simply hates it because Nick Cage were in those films.

Despite their flaws (especially in the 2nd one), the National Treasure flics, dollar for dollar, are more entertaining than the two Dan Brown flics to date.

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Abyss, on 18 April 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

Notice no one has mentioned THE MAGICIAN'S APPRENTICE, probably because no one saw it.

The Sorcerors Apprentice.
...

See, i wouldn't have made that mistake if it had been in theaters longer than nine days.