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The last book in the WoT

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:00 PM

 Werthead, on 26 July 2011 - 12:17 PM, said:

I got an update from Brandon that his plan is to hand in the book in November 2011. Tor and Harriet want a longer editing period, but how long that takes is up to them.

By my count they could do a six-month turnaround rather than the 2-3 that ToM got and still get the book out in June 2012 (even May, if they stepped on it). That would be awesome. Though Tor may prefer November so they nail the maximum number of possible pre-release Christmas sales.


Yeah it's one of those choices. Do they go for the summer doldrums book release when folk are looking to read in their time off, or close to Christmas when gifts will be bought.

If I was reccomending one I'd say summer simply because folk who want this book would mostly buy it themselves the day it came out...and not wait to be given it as a gift a month after it's released....so TOR would do better with a summer release like ADWD...as ADWD proved it's fairly big business.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:22 PM

 King Kazma, on 26 July 2011 - 02:00 PM, said:

...Yeah it's one of those choices. Do they go for the summer doldrums book release when folk are looking to read in their time off, or close to Christmas when gifts will be bought....



Counter argument runs that people have more liquid dollars to spend (or at least are more likely to spend anyways) around the holidays, so you get the die-hards who are going to buy it whenever AND the gifty crowd.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:29 PM

Another year of waiting... oh noes!!!
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:30 PM

I just hope that if Brandon finishes early and the book is still a November 2012 release, that he gets a good head start on the next Stormlight Archive book before then.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:34 PM

 End of Disc One, on 26 July 2011 - 02:30 PM, said:

I just hope that if Brandon finishes early and the book is still a November 2012 release, that he gets a good head start on the next Stormlight Archive book before then.


^^This. I was so blown away by the first Stormlight book that I cannot wait for the next one.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 05:39 PM

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 Tattersail, on 26 July 2011 - 01:11 PM, said:

so this won't be ready for march 2012?


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Posted 26 July 2011 - 10:53 PM

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so this won't be ready for march 2012?


No. They moved from March to November 2012 around JordanCon, but unlike the last move (November 2011 to March 2012) this was not publicised at all (maybe outside of a couple of threads on Jordan boards), and virtually no-one knew about it.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:28 AM

 Tattersail, on 26 July 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:

I do have a query, I was thinking on it the other day, why does Egwene or anyone question Rand and his actions? He is here to save the world, even by breaking it or whatever, if he has to break the seals to re seal the prison then that is what he has to do. Why do they presume that they know better? Egwene is awesome as in TGS, but I hate the way she is against anything that is Rand.


 Silk, on 26 July 2011 - 10:58 AM, said:

its a case of history repeating itself, which should be obvious as that is the theme of the book..... Its essentially the same as what happened with Lews Therin but
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 10:11 AM

Pretty much goes along the common trope of women be healers and men destructors, venus vs mars ......
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:18 PM

 Silk, on 26 July 2011 - 10:58 AM, said:

its a case of history repeating itself, which should be obvious as that is the theme of the book..... Its essentially the same as what happened with Lews Therin but
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Actually, RJ said that if the women had gone with Lews Therin that saidar would have been tainted as well. He's the Dragon, not God. People have a right to question his decisions.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:49 PM

Just Jesus, basically. A crazy, womanizing Jesus. Who doesn't turn the other cheek.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:08 PM

From Wert's site:

"On Twitter, Brandon Sanderson has confirmed that he is now 52% done with A Memory of Light, the fourteenth and final Wheel of Time novel. In previous Tweets, Sanderson has said he hopes to deliver the final manuscript before the end of the year or early in 2012.

The book is currently - tentatively - scheduled for publication in the second half of 2012. "

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:27 PM

52% done exactly? Not 51.5% or 52.4%?
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 06:11 PM

 McLovin, on 08 September 2011 - 05:27 PM, said:

52% done exactly? Not 51.5% or 52.4%?


Sanderson has always done this. Because he fully outlines all his books before he starts writing them he can give a percentage to how much of that existing outline has become actual pages in the book.

But yeah, I don't think the percentage breaks down into the decimal point.
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 01:03 AM

 QuickTidal, on 08 September 2011 - 06:11 PM, said:

 McLovin, on 08 September 2011 - 05:27 PM, said:

52% done exactly? Not 51.5% or 52.4%?


Sanderson has always done this. Because he fully outlines all his books before he starts writing them he can give a percentage to how much of that existing outline has become actual pages in the book.

But yeah, I don't think the percentage breaks down into the decimal point.


he's even got a 'loading' bar on his official website for all his in-progress works.
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Posted 30 September 2011 - 06:31 PM

 Tattersail, on 26 July 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:

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I liked Aviendha's vision of the future and the implications. I wonder whether Mat joins Tuon again. I am not too bothered about Perrin, he is too whipped. I want to see Rand die and live again.

I do have a query, I was thinking on it the other day, why does Egwene or anyone question Rand and his actions? He is here to save the world, even by breaking it or whatever, if he has to break the seals to re seal the prison then that is what he has to do. Why do they presume that they know better? Egwene is awesome as in TGS, but I hate the way she is against anything that is Rand.


Rand Sedai is dangerous, because of the possible relationship under the Amrylin. Unless he refuses to recognised anything but the authority of the T'amrylin when the Aes Sedai were last whole.

Tuon is going to turn up at the fields of Merrilor, get her life threatened, Mat saves her life because of the Medallion, both wtfpwning the Aes Sedai who will have beef with her, and sticking two fingers up at the white tower. Perrin is going to be game changer persuading people to support Rand's plan, I'm just glad to see him starting to live up to the awesome I saw in him from book one.

Your answer to the Egwene question is, Egwene is annoying.
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:06 AM

Why would Tuon show up at Merrilor?

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:41 AM

She's going to ride up to the White Tower for the attack to discover they're all gone elsewhere, and follow them there. Right into the armies of the light at the fields, have a chit chat with Rand and co and decide a picnic with them at Shayol Gul would be most pleasant indeed.

I suppose alternatively they attack the White Tower, with Egwene's delegation learning at the fields and the armies of light all going to the White Tower's aid. Would seem to be a bit clunkier to me. All of the tower should be with the armies of the light as Rand has said they're going straight to Shayol Gul from there.

Of course this leaves out the whole issue of the hell the Black Tower is going to be dealt with.
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:59 AM

I'm pretty sure that Merrilor along with the Dragon's Peace in Aviendha's visions are a huge red herring. With Caemlyn being attacked, it doesn't seem likely that there will be much of a peace meeting. Also, Nicola's Foretelling suggests that the truce won't happen until after Rand's death and resurrection, which fits with the Arthurian requirements for Rand's death (that it happen at the Battle of Caemlyn).

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:54 PM

Is it wrong to think that perhaps Rand and Co won't even GET to Merrilor? That the battle will take place elsewhere? It seems a little cut and dried to have it end up there, so I'd love to see a twist thrown in for good measure.
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