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Posted 10 April 2011 - 07:49 AM

@Apt - I do kind of see what you mean, and I did find it pretty easy (unlike, as you said, AC1) I mean I never died in a fight (the quick healing thing makes it nigh on impossible to die) However, my word I still enjoyed playing it. What a game! And that is what I am choosing to focus on.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 07:55 AM

I would agree with Apt, the quality of the gameplay over the series has an inverse relationship with the quality of the story. The story is the thing that made AC1 playable, whereas I sure as hell didn't play Brotherhood on the strength of the story.

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 07:02 PM

I am only a few missions into the main storyline of AC2 and haven't played ACB yet...but...

@ Apt - According to Ubisoft, with AC being a flagship title people seem to be unaware that ACB is basically like an extension pack to AC2 since it still stars Ezio, and so the gameplay will be similar, but the story will only concern more Ezio. Basically Brotherhood acts like an additional mission to AC2 and if you look at it that way then it would probably seem to be less disappointing to you. At least that's what seems to be the case from other folk I've talked to.

In that same vein, AC3 (coming in first quarter 2012) will be a completely new lead (I am starting to think that it will be Desmond as the actual physical Assasin and it will take place in 2012 with no need for an Animus or anything) which could be anytime between Ezio's era (1500's) to the present...and the story will conclude with the whole thing acting like a trilogy. So hopefully the story will be thicker in the 3rd one and maybe win back some magic from the depth of awesome story in AC1. Who knows, and only time will tell, but I don't think Brotherhood is meant to be looked at as anything other than an expansion pack for AC2. MHO anyways.
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Posted 19 April 2011 - 07:59 PM

From a story writing stand point, especially when looking at what AC1 was trying to achieve, AC2 and Brotherhood were terrible games. I have a hard time believing that a team of competent story writers put that together and were satisfied with the finished product. Either the people who put the story together forgot what the story was actually supposed to be about/didn't really give a shit or somebody higher up said "No, this is too complicated for the general public, make it dumber. And throw in some escort missions, bitches love escort missions".

Maybe it is just the problem of a would be story writer seeing all the things that could have been done better. I don't know. But I do know that the people who say that AC1 was a terrible game and AC2 a great game need to be beaten with a wet trout.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 05:50 PM

I liked the AC2 storyline purely for how utterly ridiculous it was. I'm a huge Illuminatus! fan, and whether intentionally or not, the sheer silliness of the backstory/glyphs stuff ending with the solar flares of doom revelation made it surreally brilliant - and black and white as it was, I found the Ezio storyline to be a fairly competent revenge story, which I do have something of a soft spot for. AC1's was alright; frankly, I didn't find it to be well-written enough to develop what could have been good themes very well (and my overriding memory of it is of desperately trying to find a way to break free of the invisible walls while Al-Mualim droned endlessly about, like, free will n shit), with the repetitiveness of its beating you over the head matched only by the repetitiveness of the gameplay. It was harder, which is good, but I felt like I could have quit the game after the first assassination, imagining it over and over in my head with differently-coloured walls and not missed anything save the terribly dull final gauntlet.

I wouldn't call either game great by any measure, but I'd give AC2 a solid 7/10 for improving in most areas. Yet to get around to Brotherhood, but more of the same will scratch that itch long enough to tide me over to AC3. Bring back the possibility of actually dying (I played AC2 with a trainer that makes you die in two hits and only ever used a weak dagger. I died once) and have a scene where Desmond parachutes into a Bilderberg Group meeting in time to ruin their ritual and prevent them from summoning Cthulhu, and I'll be pretty content.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 06:18 PM

View PostBattle Plaptypus, on 19 April 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

From a story writing stand point, especially when looking at what AC1 was trying to achieve, AC2 and Brotherhood were terrible games. I have a hard time believing that a team of competent story writers put that together and were satisfied with the finished product. Either the people who put the story together forgot what the story was actually supposed to be about/didn't really give a shit or somebody higher up said "No, this is too complicated for the general public, make it dumber. And throw in some escort missions, bitches love escort missions".

Maybe it is just the problem of a would be story writer seeing all the things that could have been done better. I don't know. But I do know that the people who say that AC1 was a terrible game and AC2 a great game need to be beaten with a wet trout.


Yeah, I never got people who disliked the story in AC1....I loved the shit out of that game...even with the buggy game mechanics and repetitive gameplay.

I'm not far into AC2 and its the story so I can't comment yet.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 08:20 PM

So thick into ACB right now and I have a question. I only have 3 assassin arrows yet have I have 12 assassins and I have destoryed all the Borgia towers. Am I missing completeing something or is there only 3 arrows in the game?
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 03:50 AM

If you're talking about what I think you're talking about then yes, there's only three. The other assassins aren't even needed though, except to create an army of blonde female assassin ninjas.
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 06:38 PM

SHIT!!! So arrow storm is the last perk then... Thanks, I thought I was missing something.
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Posted 02 June 2011 - 04:03 AM

Wow there is a BADASS cover and article on Revelations in the latest Game Informer Mag. Any of yall see it? I think its like 6 pgs or so long. FanFUCKINGtastic.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:46 PM

Game informer has revealed the setting and box art for Assassins Creed 3!

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For years now we've enjoyed the adventures of Ezio Auditore as he makes his way through the Italian Renaissance and Ottoman-controlled Constantinople. That story is over. Ever since the conclusion of Assassin's Creed II, a senior team of Ubisoft developers has been secretly toiling away on what comes next. That team aimed high, with plans to examine and rethink every element of the franchise from the ground up, build something new, and take a full three year development cycle to do it.

The game that emerged is Assassin's Creed III. Set in the latter half of the 18th century, we'll see the war between the Templars and the Assassins escalate as it crosses over to the New World of America, and witness firsthand the events of the American Revolution. Caught in the conflict is a daring new hero in the Assassin's Creed franchise. We have the full story of this new hero and the striking game in which he stars, along with exclusive screens and art from the project, all packed into a massive 13-page cover story.

To whet your appetite, take a look at an early glimpse of the new game. Our cover image gives you the first hints of what to expect. Who is this new protagonist? What is his importance to the larger history-spanning story of the franchise? Let the speculation begin.


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So what do you think? Personally I was hoping for an Asian setting but we all knew the American and French Revolutions were obvious choices.

I really hope they get back to the conspiracy stories that are the games skeleton and not that stupid and shallow vengence bullshit going in between the Auditores and Borgias

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 11:10 PM

He's not being very stealthy with that outfit.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:16 AM

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The Assassin's Creed games are stupid. Don't get me wrong, I love AC2 and Brotherhood. They give you a lot to explore, look really nice, and keep you occupied with all sorts of side content. That said, they're incredibly stupid.

The sci-fi conceit that connects all the games isn't very good, and its execution is laughable. Every major figure in history possessed a magic doodad and secret societies and blah blah. Even if you go along for the ride, it's not told very well at all. A central story is teased through impressionistic glimpses and moments of seemingly important posturing, but that story is never actually told, because doing so would require some forward movement that would only pay off with excellent writing.

So we have fun running around and stabbing people in neat settings, trying not to think too hard about all the coincidences we're supposed to be amazed by and all the lazy historic landmarks that the series awkwardly gropes. We put up with all the embarrassing shallow video game character melodrama because it's outweighed by the gameplay. And, really, as long as the games are competently made (which isn't a sure thing following Revelations) that's fine.

Now we know that the inevitable Assassin's Creed III will be set in America during the Revolutionary War. I'll be there on day one with everyone else, but in the meantime how about some predictions?
  • You will calmly walk through a full scale battle, pushing soldiers from both sides out of your way as you remain undetected, magically cloaked by a small cluster of turkeys.
  • The collectibles in this game will be Ben Franklin's missing kites. You will discover them on rooftops and tree branches, held in place by tangled strings with keys dangling from the end.
  • After assassinating a corrupt American, you will tread on a Don't Tread On Me flag. Symbolism.
  • You will witness the Boston Tea Party firsthand, but will not be able to control your character. One of the event's victims will be someone you care about.
  • A cinematic fight (literally a cinematic) will leave a crack in the Liberty Bell.
  • You will scan glowy conspiracy matrix code that has been hidden on the Declaration Of Independence. Also, you might have to find pages of "the real" articles of confederation as another collectible.
  • Freemasons did everything. Also, computers and magic.
  • A drummer boy will rotate his drum, revealing the bottom to be the barrel of a small cannon. The piper next to him will adjust his instrument slightly, revealing it to be a blowdart gun.
  • You will discover that Benedict Arnold was not a traitor, but a patsy that had been turned on by the Templars.
  • After speaking with the chief of a Native American tribe, you will partake in a hallucinatory ritual that will blend the spiritual world with flashes of sci-fi computer bullshit. This will lead you to discover that the hawk noise which follows the climbing of a vantage point is actually the sound of your bloodline's spirit animal.
  • Instead of gold, you will scour the game world for hidden chests filled with freedom.
  • One mission will require you to sneak aboard a ship, using the Boston Tea Party as a distraction.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 06:51 AM

Yeah, saw this yesterday. Disappointed for two main reasons; setting (though as you say, expected) and; again, expected, but c'mon...totally should have had a female lead. *sigh*

I'm sure it will be more of the same fun Highly Visible Ninja format, but tbh I'm kinda getting burnt out on that, and I haven't even played Revelations and Brotherhood to completion. O.o
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:20 AM

As far as I recall of the 6 statues down in Ezio's secret vault, only the Asian chick was female. So if they ever go to China, we might get a female protagonist there.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:52 AM

Yeah, but isn't #3 meant to be the final main entry? (Sure, that's what they SAY, etc, etc, but still) Thus I was gunning for that angle in this entry. Ah well.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:45 AM

I haven't played "Revelations" yet so I don't know what they did with the over arching plot but it's my understanding that they have no problems with making 10 more Assassin's Creed games. They have the material, it's just a question whether or not they need to create another character in who's head it can take place.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:50 AM

Really? I always heard them talking about the trilogy as being it's own thing. I get that there will undoubtedly be more games, and more spin-off media (it's a franchise now, after all) but this is still the last in this line of games. Just a matter of time, sure, but how long? XD
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

View PostSilencer, on 04 March 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

Really? I always heard them talking about the trilogy as being it's own thing. I get that there will undoubtedly be more games, and more spin-off media (it's a franchise now, after all) but this is still the last in this line of games. Just a matter of time, sure, but how long? XD


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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 09:44 AM

Yeah, but were Brotherhood and Revelations really full games? XD

I get what you're saying, and knowing Ubi I can see them milking it for all it's worth, I was just pretty sure it was meant to be 3 full games and that closes Desmond's story (which pretty much means the series as it stands)?
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