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What is your opinion on the Wheel of Time?
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 12:21 PM
Brilliant, the first 100 episodes will be used to establish that rand lives in two rivers and loves egwene
100-200 will be entitled the truth you hear is not the truth you think you hear, we will be introduced to moraine.
200-300 still coming to terms with moiranes apperance in 2 rivers
300-301 the trolloc attack the first exciting bit lasted a whole five minutes
300-3000 we are now somewhere in camlyn. and the writers are promising us that their are only another three episodes and fifty sequels.
100-200 will be entitled the truth you hear is not the truth you think you hear, we will be introduced to moraine.
200-300 still coming to terms with moiranes apperance in 2 rivers
300-301 the trolloc attack the first exciting bit lasted a whole five minutes
300-3000 we are now somewhere in camlyn. and the writers are promising us that their are only another three episodes and fifty sequels.
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Posted 01 September 2004 - 09:16 AM
I really dont think he will write a second turning of the wheel. That suggests the wheel stopped spinning at a stage. It never stops their are no endings and their are no new beggining. Their are kinds of begginings.
#145 Guest_Riot_*
Posted 26 July 2004 - 06:31 PM
@Marduk: nope,i agree....the prologue of EotW was definately the the best part of the series so far....
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Posted 12 June 2004 - 02:19 AM
@Nastyman: The reference is probably to the way that many of Erikson's characters think philosophically and speak in a clever manner.
I agree with you that Erikson doesn't write every character as if he/she/it was a genius. The dialogue is somewhat stylized in terms of eloquence (striking to someone used to RJ dialogue) and many of the characters are intelligent, introsepective, and perceptive, but not every character is a genius. There is also plenty of mindless and entertaining banter in the Malazan series.
However, there are many more great minds in the Malazan books than just Tehol, Quick Ben, Kruppe. The slave was also a genius in MT (I can't spell his name), as was the giant crow, and several other characters in the books.
I agree with you that Erikson doesn't write every character as if he/she/it was a genius. The dialogue is somewhat stylized in terms of eloquence (striking to someone used to RJ dialogue) and many of the characters are intelligent, introsepective, and perceptive, but not every character is a genius. There is also plenty of mindless and entertaining banter in the Malazan series.
However, there are many more great minds in the Malazan books than just Tehol, Quick Ben, Kruppe. The slave was also a genius in MT (I can't spell his name), as was the giant crow, and several other characters in the books.
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Posted 26 July 2004 - 11:32 AM
Last I heard it was four hundred and thirteen... with eight sequel trilogies and a box set of box sets published in 2352 by a re-animated/head-in-a-jar RJ
*runs for the hills*
Am I the only one who thinks it went downhill from the prologue on?
*runs for the hills*
Am I the only one who thinks it went downhill from the prologue on?
#148 Guest_Dark Daze_*
Posted 20 August 2004 - 03:18 PM
Bad meant that Caldazar should have just come out and asked for flippant comments and pictures of pitbulls rather than trying to be subtle about it. 
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Posted 03 December 2004 - 01:40 PM
Just be sure to lock up any guns/knives/drugs in your house before you start this... "venture" (reading the rest of that attrocity)
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Posted 03 December 2004 - 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Richard:
Tiste, you know what they say, 'what doesn't kill you will only ..'
Well, I have learnt my lesson. Will probably read them all anyway, seen as I have them and all...
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Posted 10 June 2004 - 10:32 AM
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Things I like about Jordan's battles:
Scale - He uses a realistic scale. None of this silly, Dragonlance tendency to call a hundred knights an army. He actually uses realistic numbers of troops. Good for him.
Specific Troop Details - He specifies different types of troops... light infantry, heavy infantry, light cav, heavy cav. And he makes sure they're employed with the correct tactics for each troop type.
Balance - He strikes a nice balance between swords and sorcery. Magic users are influential in battle, but not overwhelming. Sometimes Erikson slips a little bit away from this balance, but the characters are so damn cool I don't care.
Strategy and Tactics - They exist, are discussed, employed, and have realistic results. Wow. Lan talks about how heavy cavalry fight flexible light infantry. Mat discusses how to break a siege without pushing the enemy over the walls, while still keeping enough in reserve to deal with another threat. Ten years ago, very few authors even considered the concept of reserves.
Ultimately, what's great about Jordan's battles is that he shows them... and they make sense. One of my major gripes with Martin is that he tirelessly struggles to avoid showing a battle in full scope, and I sometimes wonder if it's because he knows what he wants the result to be, but doesn't really know how to get there.
Sorry, could someone remind me of battles that have actually occured in the Wheel of Time. All I can remember is the one with lots of magic which incorperated none of teh elements you mentioned.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 09:31 AM
I got upto book9 (cant remember the name) and lost patience with it. It really grabbed me in the begining(sp?) too. I may get round to reading it all again in the future ( if i can find a spare year to read them all in )
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#153 Guest_Caldazar_*
Posted 10 June 2004 - 05:06 PM
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"Sure, Rand and Sammael flatten whole platoons, but they're both pretty worn out from the effort."
Leaders arent supposed to fight in the battle.
Umm he was on a wooden platform miles away from the fighting. I hardly call that fighting in Battle. He only engaged sammuel personally when he was attacked by him and as he was the only one capable of fighting him it would kinda make sense for him to do so if he wanted to win the battle.
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Posted 10 June 2004 - 01:15 PM
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You know, I'm probably guilty of this a little bit. I don't know why I get so upset when it comes to Jordan. Maybe it is cuz his books are like fantasy crack for some people, and it bothers me that they dominate so much of the fantasy section while numerous others are overlooked.
In a sense I agree. While I consider myself a Jordan fan (if only because I started the series young and have stuck with it ever since), I readily admit to his shortcommings and long ago stopped trying to convince others to like him. I also agree that alot of very good fantasy is buried under the upper level of the most popular authors.
I wasn't thinking of you in particular with my post. More, I was just venting a bit at the way some people seem to subscribe to this "If it's to popular, it can't be good" way of thinking.
I really liked what Salvatore had to say on the subject. Very realistic viewpoint.
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Posted 29 June 2004 - 05:01 AM
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he has never tried to write an epic and so we cannot judge whether or not he could.
I agree. In hindsight you're right, I shouldn't have suggested that he can't write epic fantasy, just that he hasn't really shown us that he can
He sticks to the things he does well, that's all we can really tell. I agree that he pretty much churns them out, and they're not exactly high literature, but they fill a particular niche, and fill it pretty well imho. At the very least he knows what he's good at, and does it repeatedly. Jordan seems insistent on doing the things he does badly (long-reaching plots, male/female character interactions) and only occasionally touches on the things he does well (battles, fights, explorations of the 'new' concepts of magic he has come up with).
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Posted 22 July 2004 - 12:01 AM
It all went downhill from book 4 or 5. The women are all a bunch of stupid teenagers, with no growing up. Three of them screw Rand, and yet they colour red at the mentioning of sexual matters. Duh. And the bad guys are plainly dumb.
#157 Guest_Caldazar_*
Posted 10 June 2004 - 05:13 PM
Yeah he did that by looking through a telescope.
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#159 Guest_Richard_*
Posted 01 December 2004 - 01:34 PM
@Fool: so is it better or worse than LOTR - just tell me that
