[Path-Shaper]

Alkend jokes about being not being super powerful...

Alkend, on 15 December 2009 - 05:22 PM, said:

oh no of course not... youve just given me 2 kills a night, an FM ability and a 1 use multi vote

Im actually getting a bit worried what the Assassin might have

Alkend, on 15 December 2009 - 05:20 PM, said:

me lurk? never!
I was actually getting worried that i was going to get targetted because of being a low poster like i usually do, but checked the post count and im second among the living players

Alkend, on 15 December 2009 - 05:30 PM, said:

Yays Rashan has an intuitive trust of me... oh well hes still going to die

Alkend, on 15 December 2009 - 05:42 PM, said:

hmm everyone keeps saying Rashan seems innocent, is it just me that thinks he could be the assassin

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 05:42 PM, said:

I dunno, is it?!

Alkend, on 15 December 2009 - 05:46 PM, said:

Well atm he is my prime target for being the assassin and his case just now definitely smacks of him being the assassin with that afterthought post which could easily be him going "shit, just realised they need the assassin to help better tell them that or theyll think i might be"

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 05:47 PM, said:

Well then you'll probably think you're very clever if you are correct, and very silly if you are wrong!

D'rek is frustrated... and is going to waste another vig.

Kalse, on 15 December 2009 - 05:18 PM, said:

Huh, weird thingy with Day 5 ending there.

Anyways, tonight vig Rashan, and if he is already lynched/dead, vig Shadow.

Message to Elle:

Quote

I am not happy. Vigging Rashan (backup = Shadow) tonight. Just openly tell me on-thread if yous suspect anyone is scum there's really no point in not being open anymore.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 December 2009 - 05:47 PM

[Path-Shaper]

GK wants to give Sorrit a kill.

Hood, on 15 December 2009 - 04:11 PM, said:

Give myself a kill?

Hood, on 15 December 2009 - 06:36 PM, said:

Ok give Sorrit a kill.

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 06:38 PM, said:

Yeah, you can't give yourself one, goof ball.

Noted on Sorrit.

The Dude goes fishing and theorycrafting the end game.

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 06:12 PM, said:

Out of Curiosity- Would you le tme know If i had an attempted NK on me? Or would I never know?

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 06:23 PM, said:

Ok here is how it breaks down-

2 Vipers- Sorrit (elle), Kalse (bill)

Alkend I think is a Guard or body guard.

Shadow Fener and... Liosan are Bride side

and Hp is inno. (not sure of the role.)

Assassin is your truly.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If we lynch Bride today, I have a tough road to hoe. cause then its me as the only killer and I have to take out 6 other people. (that makes me not want to lynch shadow today) I would LOVE for him to kill Sorrit or Kalse for me.

If we lynch Bride helper today ( preferably fener as he ( silencer???) is never around and has been generally a non factor this game. Then I kill Sorrit and Bride kills whoever... Puts it at 5. at that point I would want to lynch bride, or maybe try to get lynched and have the bride hammer me for a kill. That would make dead bride and after a NK of Kalse me and 2 others.. I could then offer one of the 2 left the victory.

If we lynch Town today... that puts us at 7. Bride kills one thats 6.. I would have to hit bride or bride helper. I just have this aweful feeling that you made the Bride BP as well... ( which would really suck!! as she has helpers.) I can see a few BP's but c'mon both scum as totally BP!!! you wouldn't do that... right?????

Anyway, I hope we can get a fener lynch today and that he is on bride side. ( plus if fener is dead we don't have to count on him being around which is always hit-or-miss with him)

Ok there.. done.. got it out... thank you.

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 06:41 PM, said:

Sorry, but you don't have any info about whether or not you would be informed if you were hit by a NK.

I love the thoughts and theories though. Keep em coming

Sir Sorrit is frustrated he missed the fast day... and is now going for Tarantino (who has a single Lynch/BP).

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 06:28 PM, said:

Damn, I got caught out by that fast night. Seems like the kind of power an assassin would have, as opposed to the Bride...but I could be wrong.

Hopefully now that I've set up a method of communication with Kalse (I do hope he got my Night 4 message), we can figure things out together. I've indicated that I'm looking at HP tonight for the moment, so if I could please submit the following provisional:

Kill Hood's Path

The odds are 1/6...fortunately we've got another day's grace, but unfortunately I'm not going to have a kill tomorrow night. Makes that missing provisional last night even more important.

Going to do a reread like I said on thread, and see what stands out. My gut is screaming at me to go for Rashan, but I don't know whether that's just an instinctive lash out at someone who seems to be trying to lead the game or something genuine.


Sir Thursday

[Path-Shaper]

Thursday's on the money here and is in the running for Man of the Match.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 06:18 PM, said:

Wow, the numbers are decreasing fast!

What jumps out at me from the last page or so was the way Hood's Path seemed fixated on there being a third player online right before the day ended abruptly. It was almost as if he was trying to bring up the possibility that someone had been lurking and triggered the abrupt end of day to try and raise the possibility that it wasn't him that did it. As a matter of fact, Hood's Path is probably my top suspect for the person who ended day yesterday. Also, this is just bizarre:

Hood, on 15 December 2009 - 05:36 PM, said:

Well it not me.

So Me, Kalse and Sorrit.

Rashan seems reasonable so he seems inno.

Alkend, fener, shadow and liosan must be the scum.

Rashan seems reasonable implies that the others must be scum? Doesn't really make sense at all.

Rashan has been bugging me a bit actually - at first I thought he seemed inno based on the nature of his contributions, but now I'm not quite so sure. I disagree with his WCS that the bride's faction currently has three members. Given that Korbas was recruitable into the Bride's faction (that's what he claimed, right?), I find it unlikely that in addition to that the Bride has two other helpers. IIRC, one of the characters someone brought up as a possible ally of the Bride back on Day 1 was mentioned in one of the early scenes (Hanzo?) so it seems more likely to me that the Bride has Hanzo supporting her in a two man faction to start, with the option of recruiting BB at some point. There's an element of fearmongering in his "We must lynch right today!" talk, though I guess if it turns out that it's not the last day today, then it's not the end of the world.

I'm going to go and read up on everyone and see if it turns up anything fresh.

[Path-Shaper]

The Dude probably wins most paranoid player in the game... I hate finders!

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 08:32 PM, said:

Ok change my provisional....i need the killer around for 1 more night. I really need the bride to get off her ass and Kill Kalse or Sorrit.. but at the same time I need one of them to stay around.

Provisional order switch.

Fener first as I think he is bride side.
Then Sorrit
Then Shadow

Yeah, so i changed my thinking, Sorrit made a good point. It was probably The Bride, and Hitori hanzo as allies, with the Kid as a possible second ally. that leaves:

Bill and elle (Kalse and sorrit)
Shadow and Fener (Bride and Hitori)
Assassin (me)
HP, Alkend, and Liosan as Roled innos. Liosan probably killed the Charlie browns. Though that might have been HP. I still think alkend is a body guard, and the other was probably a vig of some sort that used their kill last night. In fact Hitori probably had a kill and used it last night.

I REALLY hope there is no finder.

So I think i am safe in assuming that Bill has a BP or 2 ( I mean if Karahad one, bill has to have one right?)

So there probably won't be 2 kills every night till the bride is dead.

Ugh.. this game is far from over.


Question: If someone has a BP for NK's and they throw the hammer on me, they still die right? cause its a day action, right? or does my retaliation just take away a BP. I think they should die because its not at night.. but.. i am a tad bit biased.

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 09:07 PM, said:

Noted on the updated provisional. Fener > Sorrit > Shadow

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 08:43 PM, said:

So it says charlie brown and his wife were killed night 5... Does that mean my provisionals for night didn't go through?

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 09:10 PM, said:

Huh? You did submit a provisional for Night 5 (very early after Day 5 started) and it was on Shadow, by the list you gave me.

I don't know what you mean by asking if the provisional "went through." I resolved night correctly, that's all I can tell you.

Thursday starts a new thread to clear his head and think things aloud for the benefit of the back room.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:

Just going to drop all of my thoughts in this thread - it'll help me think and may be interesting for you Spoiler Heaven peeps. We'll start with this post from Liosan:

Liosan, on 15 December 2009 - 07:34 PM, said:

Back again briefly. I really need a better work ethic. I am afraid the projects are taking longer than expected so I may not be able to contribute much until tomorrow morning.

Just before I go though, I agree with Rashan that Shadow's assumption seems weird, especially as when Korbas was being lynched, he said he needed one extra vote for the lynch which meant one extra person had to vote, and Kalse was on that train, so that kind of disproves it.

The second paragraph doesn't really sound like something I'd expect scum to be concerned about. Do you take the effort to look back and find a counter example when it's not something that really concerns you? I mean, if you're scum you want to kill Kalse anyway, it doesn't really matter whether or not he's got two votes. I'm going to move Liosan down my list a bit (he has been low on my radar since he made a very forced Day 1 case anyway - once again, can't really picture scum doing it.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 08:48 PM, said:

Reasons Shadow might have claimed Kalse's vote counts double:

(1) He started off with that knowledge.
(2) He can cancel someone's vote every day, but we got the right number of voters for a lynch.
(3) He made a counting error.


I think (2) is most likely, but then I don't really see how he knows that it's Kalse who has the double vote - there were a lot of people on that train. He knows Kalse is Bill, but that's not really reason enough.

Either way, don't see why scum would volunteer that knowledge. Down the ladder a few rungs for him.

Thursday's logic is MOSTLY sound, but he is giving people a little too much leeway with the info they are volunteering. Remember: People offer as much info as they want to for the purpose of sound inno... you have to assume that someone could be lying when they are offering info and THEN make the determination if they are more or less likely inno!

Silencer knows that even by exposing himself so widely with his (double)vote, he probably need not worry about a lynch.

Fener, on 15 December 2009 - 09:04 PM, said:

Putting a lot on the line with that HP vote.

It's not devastating, as even with Kalse's supposed two-votes, I still need an additional vote over the limit to be killed. Day kills scare me more these days.

Requiring 7 out of 8 (or even 9) votes to lynch is a huge boon...survivalist character ftw. XD

Fener, on 15 December 2009 - 09:12 PM, said:

The funny thing is, under normal circumstances, the moment Korbas said she could be recruited to the Bride's faction, I'd stop believing her posts and the whole Kalse thing would go out the window. If I was the Assassin, I'd be killing the fuck out of Kalse the past two nights.
But instead, it serves me better - even if I'm blindly following the Bride without 'knowing' it...because I need the Bride or the Assassin to off the other for me to win. So I hold my peace for once.

That, and the fact that the whole fiasco with D'riss and Karatallid could be explained away not by someone being online, but by a Bride-like ability that, once they set in motion a certain action the other player's ability triggers and kills them both.

No-one is exploring these possibilities on thread, and it disheartens me to think that I might be one of the few even considering them in private. If I was anything other than a character who wants to survive, I'd be posting this stuff like crazy. XD

Fener, on 15 December 2009 - 09:30 PM, said:

3rd point: What is with all the distribution talk? I know it creeps back up around now, but the moment a player mentions 'recruit' or whatever that sort of shit goes out the window. Especially when you're basing it off the intro post.

I mean, the Bride's faction could have started very low. She then has to recruit Hanzo, Fatale (who would then act as a finder of Vipers, no?) and BB. So if she started with no allies at all but with plenty of recruit options, then yes, she has 'allies', she just needs to find them.

Ugh. really not liking the way people seem to be playing this, tbh. It's all fun and games (THE THUNDAH!, for example, is a hilarious piece of in-joke), however the way people seem not to be thinking...it's strange.
Elle and Bill are still alive, and currently the strong suggestion is that Kalse is Bill. But if Korbas was recruited to the Bride, then Sorritt is Hanzo (or similar) and Kalse is the Bride. That still leaves a lot of unknowns but there are plenty of characters as we've already had demonstrated, including the Assassin. Between us that counts for four out of 8 players!

WCS is a wonderful thing, but it has to be thought through. You can't play off one WCS when another one is more likely, because playing purely off the first scenario will just get you a lose. :S

Kind of interesting how everyone assumes Kalse is really Bill. What if Korbas set up an elaborate scheme to defend Kalse as the Bride, instead? In this case, it's sound, but an interesting point. Also, funny text in large. If only Silencer knew...

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 December 2009 - 10:02 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Thursday continues to prove my point--It's never wise to second guess yourself in Mafia:

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 09:36 PM, said:

I'm starting to think there's a possibility I was wrong about Liosan being Impirion. It could be Alkend...in which case, *egg on face*

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 09:38 PM, said:

In fact, the more I think about it, the more likely it seems - he said something about trying to avoid detection, I think that might have included using a lower case i whenever he said I...

That's annoying. (as you might have guessed, I'm reading over Alkend at the moment)

[Path-Shaper]

Not terrible, hits 2 of the 3 big nails on the head... in his top 3.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 10:34 PM, said:

The only think Alkend has done that gives me any read at all is a few things that sound like him defending Fener. Apart from that he's not really said anything useful at all. Possible assassin, since he's been staying aloof and avoiding connections. But at the same time, he talks about the game as though he's just following along for the most part. I'm not really sure.

At the moment my guess would be Hood's Path, Rashan and Alkend for the scum. In order of likelihood: Hood's Path, Rashan, Alkend, Fener, Shadow, Liosan. Though last time I made a list it turned out to be turned completely on its head. Hope that's not the case this time.


Sir Thursday

With the Bride able to swap bodies once, Shadow as a backup if she dies, and Rashan being unlynchable once, this game is just about out of the town's reach. They have to hit someone important today or it's probably a victory outside of town.

[Path-Shaper]

The Dude always fishing.

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 10:40 PM, said:

You didn't answer my question!!!

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 10:42 PM, said:

I think you ninja-edited that in there, I didn't see it.

As to the question: You have exactly as much information in your role PM as I intend to give you.

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 10:44 PM, said:

bah!!!!

Bah I say!!!!

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 10:46 PM, said:

Bah away, old man, you'll get nothing out of this dragon!

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 10:43 PM, said:

I wanna clear this up. Day 5 was going along....

it ended abruptly and went to night. During that night D'riss and Karatallid were killed. I attempted to Kill shadow and it didn't go through.

So i have attempted to kill shadow 3 times now with none successful. correct?

Night 1, Night,4 and Night 5.

is that right?

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 10:45 PM, said:

You are correct as to your stated actions. I'll let you speculate as to the reason for the outcomes

Night 1: Shadow
Night 2: D'riss
Night 3: Olar Ethil
Night 4: Shadow
Night 5: Shadow

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 December 2009 - 10:47 PM

[Path-Shaper]

The Dude enjoys killing Ment... he did attack Ment but it swapped to Kalse earlier in the game. Alas, Ment died to a mistake on my part.

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 10:53 PM, said:

By the way, I think Liosan is Ment... and he should consider himself lucky i am not NKing him on Principle. If he isn't liosan and I killed him. HA!

He also just realized Shadow may not be killable (ding!) and that Alkend is connected to him (wrong how he came to that conclusion, but a good move for him to figure out!)

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 10:50 PM, said:

He's gotta be the bride. Unless he is just not NKable... but why would a town member be non NKable..

wait..... WTF Alkend is Shadows body guard!!! in order to NK shadow I have to NK Alkend!!

Keep py provisional the same but put Alkend on the top of the list please. I want him dead.

So fener might actually be inno.... hmmmm damn your silent play style silencer!! ( if thats who fener is)


P.S. I know you are laughing you ass off up in SH.. i feel like a god damned ping pong ball coming out of Winona Rider's nether regions. ( yeah just like that).

P.P.S. I am going insane.

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 10:51 PM, said:

Damn you Hitori Hanzo!!!!

mwahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

snarf

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 10:54 PM, said:

I know i've been bombarding you, but please note provision switch.

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 10:56 PM, said:

You haven't submitted a new provisional.

Sorrit is... exasperated.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 10:50 PM, said:

Geez, why did the thought just pop into my head that HP might be Vernita? Self doubt is so inconvenient.

I think it was this that tripped me up:

Hood, on 14 December 2009 - 09:16 PM, said:

remove Vote

damn Sorrit talk about screwing that up

Which sounds a bit like an exasperated Viper. (I must just say, I was laughing a bit at Karatallid's reaction to Kalse saying I was just being stupid - got to sell that I was making it all up and can't actually talk to people, after all ) Meh, I really don't know what to think.

[Path-Shaper]

Thursday is finally onto something... kinda.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

Provisional change:

Kill Alkend. If Alkend is lynched, kill Hood's Path.

Now I need to draft a message for Kalse.

[Path-Shaper]

And Baudin's card may very well be getting punched in a major way this week!

Rashan, on 15 December 2009 - 11:26 PM, said:

Ok, new provisional:

Kill Alkend if he is a possible Kill

Kill Sorrit if he is a possible Kill

Kill Fener if he is a possible Kill

Kill Hp if he is a possible Kill

Thursday's got a message for Bill... and this one should FINALLY reach Kalse, lol... unless Thursday gets guarded by Liosan.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 11:19 PM, said:

Message for Bill:

Yo,

I wish I'd managed to get a kill in during Night 5 - then I'd be getting one on Night 7, which would be pretty useful in the current situation. Anyway, my suspicions are pretty much as I've laid them out on thread. There really isn't much lying around on the thread to use on a reread.

My mind has kept changing about who I should NK tonight - initially I submitted for HP, but then changed my mind to Alkend - while I had him down as a likely symp, the fact is I feel that he is the most likely of any of the players remaining to be scum of some description.

If we find that Vernita is dead tomorrow morning, then use the code I mentioned in my last message to indicate who you're going after.

Sorrit

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 11:31 PM, said:

Noted on the message but you do realize that there was a CF of Vernita Green two nights ago, right?

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 11:39 PM, said:

*slaps head* Damn, must have missed that one. I'll go back and have a look.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 11:21 PM, said:

Ended up changing my order when I posted things on thread. Opted to guess Fener with Alkend as symp, HP/Rash as the Assassin. We'll see how that goes.

I really can't decide .

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 December 2009 - 11:41 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Sorrit updates the memo.

Sorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 11:44 PM, said:

I apologize for not reading your awesome lynch scene, Mr. Pathshaper. I skimmed through the thread at work to see what had happened, and all that registered was that three players were dead, and none of them were scum.

Right, well in that case, cut the last paragraph out of the message so that it reads as follows:

Yo,

I wish I'd managed to get a kill in during Night 5 - then I'd be getting one on Night 7, which would be pretty useful in the current situation. Anyway, my suspicions are pretty much as I've laid them out on thread. There really isn't much lying around on the thread to use on a reread.

My mind has kept changing about who I should NK tonight - initially I submitted for HP, but then changed my mind to Alkend - while I had him down as a likely symp, the fact is I feel that he is the most likely of any of the players remaining to be scum of some description.

Sorrit

Path-Shaper, on 15 December 2009 - 11:45 PM, said:

OK, noted the updated message.

You don't need to apologize to me. I probably shouldn't have even said anything. I really don't like to interfere with player mistakes.

[Path-Shaper]

D'rek finally shows up after the thread was holding its collectively baited breath.

Kalse, on 16 December 2009 - 05:51 AM, said:

^^I'll be changing that at some point today.

Man, if Alk, Rash and Sorrit are the other innos left and everyone follows my case and I end up handing it to the scum I will be very depressed for Christmas... also, exams suck!

[D'riss]

Bummer, thought I was playing middle of the line enough not to draw the attention of the assassin or the bride Such a pity, since Karat had the BP on himself if I hadn't been targetted we would have made it through the night. Was seriously considering either vigging the last two vipers, revealing to the bride and lynching the assassin, or going after two likely assassin candidates (was thinking alkend and shadow tbh, whoops), either of which would hopefully have gotten us to a win in a day or two. Oh well, great game PB. Pretty well balanced despite its complexity and lots of interesting roles.

[Path-Shaper]

The Dude is sweating the pressure... it's tense!

Rashan, on 16 December 2009 - 04:30 PM, said:

It's getting hot down here... Kalse's post blew my mind for its plain foolishnesss... "These people look scummy, so they must not be. These people look inno, so they must be scum" wtf.. How anyone could think i am the bride...assassin, yeah, i could see but ..damn... gotta move my plan up and hope for the best. I need Vipers dead so that I can become une-xpendable to the town and offer one of them the win. I really need to not be the lynch today. If I can manage to get someone else lynched, with hopefully 2 nk's tonight.. thats 5 ppl . I like my chances there. much better than at 8 with my lynch protection gone.

Provisional: Kill sorrit,

if not Kill alkend

if not kill fener

if not kill HP

Sorrit's in trouble now, but Alkend's not out of the woods yet with Sorrit's kill on him.

[Path-Shaper]

Alkend casts his line... and is told to go fish.

Alkend, on 16 December 2009 - 05:44 PM, said:

Ok questions about the displacement, how quickly is immediately, if im killed at night do my NA still go through as they technically should if i immediately switch, similarly for guards/ heal/find on the displacement target. (i dont know the order your using )
Im assuming i would definitely get my NA if i get lynched but want to confirm things in that regard just in case.

Path-Shaper, on 16 December 2009 - 05:46 PM, said:

I can't really tell you anything about that. Sorry.

Alkend, on 16 December 2009 - 05:49 PM, said:

can you at least tell me, if i would be able to use my NA if i got lynched? cant see that giving me too much information

Alkend, on 16 December 2009 - 05:49 PM, said:

or if i do keep all my abilities when i move

Path-Shaper, on 16 December 2009 - 06:34 PM, said:

Sorry, I can't give you any of that info, either =)

Alkend, on 16 December 2009 - 06:41 PM, said:

Now your just being mean !
Guess il just have to not make any suicide tactics, if i dont know il keep my kill

Path-Shaper, on 16 December 2009 - 06:47 PM, said:

Sorry but that information would potentially change how you play the game, so it's up to you to make the determination

Alkend, on 16 December 2009 - 06:54 PM, said:

Well atm i dont plan on getting myself lynched so il stick with that, but if i get lynched then i should take over Kalse so il have a bit of a shield unless Sorrit has some way of noticing an FM which i suspect he might, which is why i was wondering as id put a provisional that if was lynched kill Sorrit and ?, but if not then just ? and ? .
would that provisional be allowed?

Path-Shaper, on 16 December 2009 - 07:17 PM, said:

Yes, a provisional of that type would be allowed.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 December 2009 - 07:18 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Ooo, and Liosan gives his team a chance! Alkend will be guarded and unable to act. If Shadow ends up getting lynched (he will need almost every single vote left in the game to do so), and Alkend dies tonight, The Bride's team suddenly goes to a position of extreme weakness... although the swap over to Kalse will be equally damaging to the town...!

Liosan, on 16 December 2009 - 07:32 PM, said:

Hiya, can I use my last guard on Alkend please?

Imp

Thursday's continued self-doubt may get to him... I wonder if he'll actually change from Alkend? Man, talk about a photo finish...!

Sorrit, on 16 December 2009 - 07:41 PM, said:

Right, so my hope is that the train on Shadow will illuminate some of the tendencies of the other players. Scum won't want to appear to be too eager, but will hop on the train. Rashan was very eager to follow Liosan's lead - looks a bit fishy to me. Still, I'll keep on Alkend, since I think I can probably swing a lynch of Rashan tomorrow.

Sorrit, on 16 December 2009 - 07:43 PM, said:

...but what if it's Fener...

Path-Shaper, on 16 December 2009 - 07:54 PM, said:

Good question

Mr. Paranoia himself just solved the game and is taking the correct steps to try and close in on a victory.

Rashan, on 16 December 2009 - 07:44 PM, said:

Well, maybe shadow is the one thats been keeping Kalse and Sorrit alive. If thats the case, Alkend just jumped up on my list as The Bride. Infact He probably is. But i need him. So if we lynch shadow and I kill sorrit, then its at 6.. i might get really lucky and have him kill kalse.. that would be great.. then town HAS to keep me around.

The reason Alk is so intent on me being assassin... he tried to kil me night 5 and probably one other night. What I don't understand is why I couldn't kill shadow. Weird. Provisional stays. Kill sorrit.

Alkend is thinking about Shadow's potential vote-off, although right now things on thread are totally going in the other direction.

Alkend, on 16 December 2009 - 07:56 PM, said:

Hmmmm, wonder if theyll realise he just decided to bite a bullet for me... He wont get kille dfor the reveal i dont think but noone will believe that hes not the brides ally

[Path-Shaper]

Obdi knows he's walking on a razor right now!

Shadow, on 16 December 2009 - 07:59 PM, said:

Lets see if Obdigore Hattori can dance along the knife's edge for one more day.

If we get kills tonight I think we are all done.

Path-Shaper, on 16 December 2009 - 08:00 PM, said:

You are sometimes quite a marvel to watch

[Path-Shaper]

And then suddenly Mr. Paranoia out thinks himself. Obdi's semi fake reveal has put him back on Rashan's kill list, which means as of right now, Sorrit gets a pass tonight.

Rashan, on 16 December 2009 - 08:03 PM, said:

God dammit.. He only had 1 bp... why hasn't my other kills gone through.

hmmm.

So alk is Bride
Helper is Liosan or HP


Hitori: is shadow
Elle: Sorrit
Bill: Kalse

So what to do... thats 3 CI's... and I don't know what the bride is going to do. Will the bride go after the healer, or the Vipers. His win condition is to kill vipers and me. so I would assume he would know that he needds to get rid of CI's...shadow is only part of my Win condition. So i have to assume he is going to go after Sorrit or Kalse. So I SHOULD kill shadow. as he will hamper my VC down the line... BUT it looks like Alkend might be the lynch today and then I am in serious shit. cause i think everyone thinks I am scum. shit... think i need to get rid of the healer... as he can keep a CI alive and if Alk has maybe a Lynch proof.. he could help me. Damn, i don't like where this game is going for me. New Provisional:


Kill Shadow

Kill Sorrit

Kill Kalse

Kill Fener

Obdi's borderline screaming for Sorrit and Kalse to get the boot. Alas, the Bride is now blocked.

Shadow, on 16 December 2009 - 08:08 PM, said:

I do what I can to provide what entertainment I can.

I assume that Sorrit is Elle. Rashan is obviously the assassin for claiming I was trying to 'call out elle', and he apparently hasn't thought stuff through.

Of course I am probably wrong and its fucking lurkiosan or the lurking path. Jesus I haven't had as much time to play as I would like, and I'm second in posts for those alive, and third (because korbas = a mad posting bastard.)

now to paint alkend as assasin so he dosen't get lynched. I need HP or Liosan gone. Assassin hits me, ALKEND YOU BEST HIT SORRIT OR KALSE MOFO.

Also, dance dance dance.

[Path-Shaper]

If there's one person that knows how to convey glee on a forum, it's Obdigore.

Shadow, on 16 December 2009 - 08:16 PM, said:

Oh Kalse, come on and vote Rashan. How I love thee!

Thursday doesn't appear to want to change his mind from Alkend.

Sorrit, on 16 December 2009 - 08:17 PM, said:

Hmm, well I changed my mind in the end. That vote of Alkend's was so scummy it hurts.

Grr...this would be so much more easier for my peace of mind if everyone was around at once - I hate the nagging feeling that I'm ignoring the people who just aren't around at the moment (Fener, Hood's Path).

Path-Shaper, on 16 December 2009 - 08:24 PM, said:

Ah... the mysteries of Mafia... and the inevitable "of course!" moment when you later learn the secrets.

D'rek changes her action from a pointless one (Rashan) yet another mistake (Liosan).

Kalse, on 16 December 2009 - 08:18 PM, said:

Allright, so new vig target is Liosan. If the most he can be bothered to say is "Shadow's reveal doesn't ring true to me either, so:" then fuck him he's just asking for it at this point.

Vig Liosan

New Message to Elle:

Quote

Vigged Liosan, since he seems to be doing his utmost to not expose himself or try anything else for that matter.

Shadow reveal may be utter shite, but as of the time I am writing this I'm more inclined to think Lio-Rash-Alk-HP are scum than him. I was thinking he was Buck, which makes sense to me as the "love of life" bit he said, as well as doing a heal each night and since Buck has no real connection to the Vipers it makes sense he has no vote either. Not sure where his hints about Hanzo are coming from, weird.

I'm still feeling good about Fener, but his lack of online-ness and general involvement has me antsy and I could be way off.

Still got my infinite-BPs so I'm not worried about myself at night, hence trying to get the heal on you.

Best of luck!

Heh, why on EARTH is anyone believing that Hanzo is not an ally of the Bride...? And the healing? Really? Who believes a healer reveal?! Ah well, back room sight is always 20/20.

[Path-Shaper]

From the main thread:

Shadow, on 16 December 2009 - 08:25 PM, said:

PB explained to me that I wasn't 'helping' anyone, but attempting to attone for my mistakes by keeping people alive, to repair the damage I did with my swords.

Trust me, there were some angry PM's on day one from me to PS about this role. Have you ever seen a solo healer that wins if alive at game end? Because it just came from the mind of PB.

Since you don't seem to be following the game Rashan, let me make this perfectly clear:

As long as the game ends with me alive, I win along with whichever faction wins. This obviously means the only thing I want is the Assassin dead, then will just vote along with whichever faction has the majority.

When the rules explicitly allow you to quote your PMs, you use that to your advantage. I absolutely love that Obdi is lying and trying to throw ME under the bus here and it's totally working right now. How awesome of a play is that?

The only reason I haven't handed Obdi the Man of the Match crown at this point is that he has missed WAY too many night actions this game by just not being around.