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Oh, and we're very pleased with ourselves down here in NZ, btw. Just to whoever was talking about upsets/happiness.
And people who complain about trans-national teams...it's been happening for ages, across all sports. I can't say as I agree with it when people are literally just paid to play for a different team (as often happens in yachting, particularly with NZ folk once we won the America's Cup repeatedly) and rugby), but if someone actually plays for a national team because they feel that the nation in question is their home, then its all good, imo.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 12:33 AM
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 05:29 AM
@ silencer - Agree with you about the trans-national teams.
The Irish soccer team used to get a lot of shit about pulling in players based on the grandparent rule in the late 80's/early 90's, and yet we weren't half as bad as some of the countries nowadays.
Still haven't had a chance to see the "highlights" of the England-Algeria game. Were they really THAT bad? Does this finally spell the end of the Lampard/Gerrard experimenting?
The Irish soccer team used to get a lot of shit about pulling in players based on the grandparent rule in the late 80's/early 90's, and yet we weren't half as bad as some of the countries nowadays.
Still haven't had a chance to see the "highlights" of the England-Algeria game. Were they really THAT bad? Does this finally spell the end of the Lampard/Gerrard experimenting?
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 07:37 AM
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Really there are no highlights at all. Unless you wanna see a ball bouncing off a random England player's body into the line of an Algerian player. Thats it.
Sounds like highlights to me.
Just kidding. I'm still baffled that England can be SO bad. Even though i told my English flatmate not to get too excited about England's chances, they should be able to create enough pressure to score a few goals.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 08:10 AM
Morgoth, on 18 June 2010 - 11:50 PM, said:
Pah, the US should beat Algeria.
Well, yesterday that was being said about the UK..
After the 1st England match, I wasn't too bothered about this one, but I watched the 1st half.
Horrible, horrible! I really don't know where all these England supporters get this mad optimism from.
If I'd gone to South Africa to watch that match, I'd be right pissed off.
As it was, I just put on something more entertaining instead.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 08:51 AM
Traveller, on 19 June 2010 - 08:10 AM, said:
Morgoth, on 18 June 2010 - 11:50 PM, said:
Pah, the US should beat Algeria.
Well, yesterday that was being said about the UK..
After the 1st England match, I wasn't too bothered about this one, but I watched the 1st half.
Horrible, horrible! I really don't know where all these England supporters get this mad optimism from.
If I'd gone to South Africa to watch that match, I'd be right pissed off.
As it was, I just put on something more entertaining instead.
The thing is, the US showed some real skill yesterday. They played very well, something that certainly can't be said about England this world cup.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 10:08 AM
I reckon the Slovenia - US game was the ost enjoyable of the entire tournament so far. Wouldn't have put much money on that!
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 12:27 PM
Ugh. Missed the England game yesterday due to prior commitments and I am so glad I did. We don't deserve to get though even if we do beat Slovenia... 
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 01:49 PM
England incense me.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think England are all that great. But I think it's fairly uncontraversial to suggest that a team of 11 players on over Ł100k a week, who fancy themselves top-class players, playing in one of the best leagues in the world, should be able to beat that Algeria side.
Fuck, had they taken shot after shot, hit the woodwork etc but been unlucky and lost 1-0, I'd be less annoyed. At least we could say they tried. But no. Plus, we now have to deal with the players whingeing that it's the fans fault. Riiiiight.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think England are all that great. But I think it's fairly uncontraversial to suggest that a team of 11 players on over Ł100k a week, who fancy themselves top-class players, playing in one of the best leagues in the world, should be able to beat that Algeria side.
Fuck, had they taken shot after shot, hit the woodwork etc but been unlucky and lost 1-0, I'd be less annoyed. At least we could say they tried. But no. Plus, we now have to deal with the players whingeing that it's the fans fault. Riiiiight.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 02:32 PM
Oh for fucking fuck's SAKE!!!!! 
We finally get a goal, and what happens a few minutes later? Kewell red carded and sent off in the 24th minute for hand ball on the goal line gifting Ghana a penalty goal and putting us a man down for the rest of the match.
Pretty rough call by the ref - hit shoulder and upper bicep, hands were lowered.
Ah well, we're fucked, all over now.
We finally get a goal, and what happens a few minutes later? Kewell red carded and sent off in the 24th minute for hand ball on the goal line gifting Ghana a penalty goal and putting us a man down for the rest of the match.
Pretty rough call by the ref - hit shoulder and upper bicep, hands were lowered.
Ah well, we're fucked, all over now.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 02:57 PM
that does suck for the aussie's, there have been quite a few red cards this world cup, suprising to me, but this is the first world cup ive watched andw asnt expecting to see the red cards ive seen.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 02:58 PM
Handball on the goalline is always a red. It's a shame, because the Aussies were playing much better.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 03:49 PM
Oh wonderful - refs FINALLY decide to start enforcing the rules, just in time to fuck us over. I'm starting to think we should just nuke Italy (sorry Bauchelain) because it seems anything we have to do with them in soccer terms is just going to fuck us over. Anyone notice where the ref is from? Oh, that's right - ITALY.
It's enough to make you start believing in FIFA conspiracy theories ...
And that BUZZING. Seriously, anyone who thinks the vuvuzela "adds to the atmosphere" is ... well ... retarded.
EDIT: that's it, 1-1. For us to have a chance we have to beat Serbia as well as Ghana copping a hiding from Germany. Stranger things have happened but I would put this outcome as the least probable.
It's enough to make you start believing in FIFA conspiracy theories ...
And that BUZZING. Seriously, anyone who thinks the vuvuzela "adds to the atmosphere" is ... well ... retarded.
EDIT: that's it, 1-1. For us to have a chance we have to beat Serbia as well as Ghana copping a hiding from Germany. Stranger things have happened but I would put this outcome as the least probable.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 03:57 PM
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 04:10 PM
Slick Mongoose, on 19 June 2010 - 03:57 PM, said:
Bastard.
Yeah, the Socceroos did pretty well in the end with only 10 men for 3/4 of the match. The trouble is you just can't help thinking over and over "If only ... if only ... if only ..."
*sigh* better not dwell on it too much, that way lies (even greater) madness.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 04:47 PM
Sombra, on 19 June 2010 - 03:49 PM, said:
Oh wonderful - refs FINALLY decide to start enforcing the rules, just in time to fuck us over. I'm starting to think we should just nuke Italy (sorry Bauchelain) because it seems anything we have to do with them in soccer terms is just going to fuck us over. Anyone notice where the ref is from? Oh, that's right - ITALY.
It's enough to make you start believing in FIFA conspiracy theories ...
And that BUZZING. Seriously, anyone who thinks the vuvuzela "adds to the atmosphere" is ... well ... retarded.
EDIT: that's it, 1-1. For us to have a chance we have to beat Serbia as well as Ghana copping a hiding from Germany. Stranger things have happened but I would put this outcome as the least probable.
It's enough to make you start believing in FIFA conspiracy theories ...
And that BUZZING. Seriously, anyone who thinks the vuvuzela "adds to the atmosphere" is ... well ... retarded.
EDIT: that's it, 1-1. For us to have a chance we have to beat Serbia as well as Ghana copping a hiding from Germany. Stranger things have happened but I would put this outcome as the least probable.
Sombra I can understand you, even I was outraged when Italy got that penalty in 2006, however if there is one good thing in Italy it's our referees, who are constantly top class. Rosetti especially is a very good referee.
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