alt146, on 03 October 2009 - 09:30 AM, said:
Hmm, I'm definitely going to have to reread both this and RG, after reading this thread I have a feeling I missed a couple of things.
I enjoyed the snake arc - it was grim and brutal, the kind of writing SE does very well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesnt Badalle have a bit of influence on things happening elsewhere. Maybe I'm just confused by the fact that she also spent lots of time flying around in her dreams,
her poems are quoted a couple of times, usually related to Icarium. It's not perfectly clear whether that was SE taking dramatic license as when he ends a chapter with 'Draconus.', or showing actual words that the characters are hearing. I suspect that at least at the end with Iccy, Badalle's 'prayers' in Icarias were affecting Iccy somehow.
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but I thought that it was her that guided Gurull to Stormy and Gesler. It would make more sense if it was Kalyth though.
quote fu? I thought it was just dumb luck that the che'malle spotted Gesler and stormy via their Kurald Thyrllan aspects.
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Does anyone think Setoc joining the Perish is a little too obvious? It's a perfect fit, but somehow I don't think that's the way things are going to work out.
It does seem almost obvious but it would line up nicely with the sheild Anvil seemingly winding up for betrayal of the Mortal Sword.
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The Barghast storyline was really sad. ...I dont think Tool sacrificed himself to simply save 100 of his rivals. ...probably have killed the leader of the other tribe and taken control of it by force, but it wouldnt have changed anything.
Tool's problem was that he was sick of killing, likely an after effect of having 'died', spent hundreds of thousands of years killing, and having returned to life, finding that he's expected to kill more. Faced with no other alternative, he took his own life.
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It worked, as we saw when his tribe left the battle (Incidently saving them from Draconus's entrance, but I can't see that as being planned). It would have been mission successful ...
Not exactly. The first replacement leader who 'got' Tool's lesson was taken out by rivals and the second one led his people away from fitghing the Akyrrni but then decided, literally for lack of a better option, to attack the Malazans.
Bliss, on 05 October 2009 - 03:50 AM, said:
how much of the whole barghast self-destructing storyline could have been because their brand news gods we forced to compete with the largest concentration of the crippled god. it may be possible that their gods were "screaming" at them to get as far away from the crippled god and his influence as possible. a lot of what happened to the barghast was in line with how the crippled god usually influences people or races to act.
Totally possible but also likely that notwithstanding their gods' return, the Bhargast had changed too much for their gods to influence. Likely given time the gods would have become as savage as the Whiteface, rather than the other way around.
Ulrik, on 05 October 2009 - 09:12 AM, said:
Bliss, on 05 October 2009 - 03:50 AM, said:
a lot of what happened to the barghast was in line with how the crippled god usually influences people or races to act.
I dunno. Barghast were divided far before arrival...their bloody and cruel customs were also deeply rooted in that society. That society just went into familiar style... and was almost genocided by random ascendent arrival... Many of them were bastards without CG.
Totally true. And correct me if i'm wrong, but the Whiteface were only one 'nation' of the Barghast, not the totallity of the race. Aside from the Gilk still intact in the Wastlands, there would be other Barghast tribes still on Genabackis. I think.
- Abyss, pinkface.
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seems like the logical candidate for the KN gate, ...there was otataral used there too - not sure how that would shift things one way or the other..., and Iccy in TB speculated that some ritual had been used to get at her blood.
