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#1001 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 04:11 AM

Hmm, not much has transpired since I left the thread earlier.

And I'm not sure if the mods have gotten a single vote count correct yet. :thumbsup:

Oh well. To bed!

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 05:19 AM

View PostEloth, on Jul 8 2009, 07:04 PM, said:

It's late but I can't sleep :thumbsup: ....three votes real quick doesn't seem right.....I'm thinking you guys have a vote pact or vote block whatever it's called and :broody: ....are trying to control the lynches until the end.....I think Silanah seems like the one calling the shots with her two cronies Galain an Tellan. :p

Vote Silanah

I'll vote any of those three, but Silanah seems like she's always trying to tell the thread what to do and throwing up a bunch of numbers about factions which I don't think should be trusted :p ....I don't want to let them get closer to a voting blockade tomorrow....


Here for a bit before bed and thread is majorly dead, but I wanted to point out the obvious here in that it's interesting that it took a vote on Emurlahn for you to finally do something other than lurk and pretend to be lost.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:06 AM

And now I take my leave.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:06 AM

So, what exactly is the case against me? The fact that I haven't made made big hints about my faction, or made some token statement about who I feel should be lynched; and Gam's story about vigging me twice?

For the first - that's pretty much the point of a merc game isnt it? A couple of people have made token "I think we should go after faction X" statements, but I'd be hesitant to take them at face value anyway. If you want to go after people who are unknown then people like Eloth or Karat spring to mind just for sheer lack of contribution.

And I have no idea what Gam was talking about. I dont have a BP and if I did I should be dead anyway for being vigged twice. I'm not sure if he was honest about having vigs, if he was I think it's likely he attracted a guard.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:35 AM

Funny, the person most likely able to give some extra explanation just vanished.

Well, I'd say that I'm happy with any option today, except that I don't think Silanah is the best option out of the three votes for Emur - one of the 'followers' is much more likely to be someone important, as they don't strike me as incredibly stupid, so therefore are unlikely to so blatantly symp their leader. XD
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:38 AM

View PostSilanah, on Jul 9 2009, 07:19 AM, said:

View PostEloth, on Jul 8 2009, 07:04 PM, said:

It's late but I can't sleep :p ....three votes real quick doesn't seem right.....I'm thinking you guys have a vote pact or vote block whatever it's called and :broody: ....are trying to control the lynches until the end.....I think Silanah seems like the one calling the shots with her two cronies Galain an Tellan. :p

Vote Silanah

I'll vote any of those three, but Silanah seems like she's always trying to tell the thread what to do and throwing up a bunch of numbers about factions which I don't think should be trusted :thumbsup: ....I don't want to let them get closer to a voting blockade tomorrow....


Here for a bit before bed and thread is majorly dead, but I wanted to point out the obvious here in that it's interesting that it took a vote on Emurlahn for you to finally do something other than lurk and pretend to be lost.


I must be right then!?! your little voting block...scared other people might realize they are next to be voted off by you and your cronies...scared you can't lead the game since I've pointed it out on thread....fraidy cat :chicky: ....thread leaders gets lynched in faction games....trust me vote Silanah off before she rallies more of her followers and tomorrow it probably only takes 5 votes to lynch....think you are close to a majority dear? :p

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:42 AM

I don't buy Gamelon's vig story, and I mean, it really came out of nowhere, the whole Emur thing. Though that lends it some cred - unless it was truly just a random fling of suspicion...

But, two vigs, on the same person, and they are still alive? The chances of a two-BP character, and you hitting them on the first night...
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:54 AM

This was Game's final post, which I find strange..

View PostGamelon, on Jul 9 2009, 04:12 AM, said:

Well, that was an entertaining read. My main plan of getting rid of some element in the GB command structure has gone tits up, tho sad.gif

Lish, nice game man, see you tomorrow in SH, I think wink.gif


How does this go in line with his reveal on Emur? I think it means he was hoping to lure out some crazy defense of Emur, and that didn't happen, thus proving Emur is not a leader. But I dunno.

Oh, I think this explains it more:

View PostGamelon, on Jul 9 2009, 12:20 AM, said:

View PostKorlat, on Jul 8 2009, 08:17 AM, said:

ROFLcopter... Gamelon, did you just play the same tactic as me, eh? tongue.gif

Nah, I'm more honest.

Here we go. I'm Capa Barsavi's son, Anjais. I was sent out to town to take our enemies down, while my brother guards our dead. emur caught my fancy day 1, and i capitalized on that by spending the vig(s) I had on him exclusively.

Now you know also why I singled him out and asked him if he would vote for you today, cause I figured he might be the Locke to your Jean.
By revealing, I hope someone else will finish the job even when I am lynched, cause I can't do it myself anymore. I'm just a lovely little RI now.


Though the bold is interesting. I assume he means 'dad'. XD
But why put 'vig(s)' when just before that:

View PostGamelon, on Jul 9 2009, 12:15 AM, said:

Ah, fuck it.

on a completely unrelated note:
Emurlahn, how many bullet proofs did you have?
I'm all out of vigs and you are still standing... sad.gif


Already mentioned the plural.

And this confirms the whole dad thing:

View PostGamelon, on Jul 9 2009, 12:28 AM, said:

View PostKorlat, on Jul 8 2009, 08:25 AM, said:

And what makes you so sure I'm a Gentleman Bastard? tongue.gif Also, if your brother is a guard, then I would assume he guarded me last night; proof I can't have killed Meanas. More fear-mongering.

i can't talk with him on account of me being in town and he on the ship (Sixty went inventive on us), I don't know his ability. But it seems more likely that he is a (limited use) healer, I think... after all, he's left behind to make sure daddy doesn't die.



So...just out of curiosity...anybody here on a boat?

I'm not sure what to make of all this...just reading over it. Hrm.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 07:02 AM

View PostRashan, on Jul 9 2009, 02:15 AM, said:

View PostKorlat, on Jul 8 2009, 10:12 AM, said:

Or like me he was only a one-shot vig, and hes lying.


You killed Meanas and are a killer.


This whole Meanas shit is weird. Korlat also accused Gamelon of killing Meanas -

View PostKorlat, on Jul 9 2009, 02:04 AM, said:

He killed Meanas, Emurlahn.


And Korlat also accused Rashan of:

View PostKorlat, on Jul 9 2009, 02:57 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on Jul 8 2009, 06:55 PM, said:

View PostKorlat, on Jul 8 2009, 10:53 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on Jul 8 2009, 06:48 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on Jul 8 2009, 10:47 AM, said:

View PostKorlat, on Jul 8 2009, 04:34 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on Jul 8 2009, 06:30 PM, said:

View PostKorlat, on Jul 8 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

Fucking hilarious, Rashan. :p I actually lolled. I'm not the Grey King, and I don't know who he is, yet, although I'm looking for him. I don't believe Gamelon about Emurlahn; he hasn't fitted the Grey King template, and he's not my leader, nor the other teams leader.


I am not saying that you are the Grey king just a member of his faction. Oh and I totally believe you. errr not.

Gamelon and Emurlahn I don't know what to make of them yet. But YOU I do.

If I was to full-reveal, you'd shit yourself with surprise, you are so far off. Why would I have entered battle with the Spider if I was Grey King? I'm attacking my enemies; Spider and Grey King aren't enemies, they are neutral towards each other.


So You're claiming to be either GB or Barsavi? And how would you know Kas was the spider at the beginning of your day? You vigged him and thought he had a BP, why would you need to be more selective in picking a fight with him than that?


His lies just seem to pile up don't they.

Symping someone else, eh? Emurlahn, be careful, he didn't wash his mouth out after Kaschan...


Your tongue is still dirty from cleaning out Liosans.

On the other hand, mine got Liosan killed, and the Spider killed, so it was worth it. You're just part of the Grey King's symp squad, eh? You're trying the same tactic I tried, attempting to get Emurlahn killed and me killed as well. I wouldn't be surprised if you were working with Gamelon; his reveal functioned as mine did earlier, and you're doing the symping and arguing I did earlier. Cowards, and paired cowards. :thumbsup:


But also said:

View PostKorlat, on Jul 9 2009, 02:38 AM, said:

There's a 50% chance I'm on your team, Rashan, if you were Spider (of course that relies on you attacking the Grey King for the obvious reasons). 50% you could be taking out someone who could be an ally. But, here's the interesting thing. Anyone with a slight brain on their head would have stepped back after redistribution, and considered the risks of attacking someone who could be on your team.
So, I have to consider something. Either you have an incredibly one-track mind, or you were never Spider to begin with. The Grey King faction is a target for both Barsavi and Gentlemen Bastards, and by trying to pin a sign on me saying "Grey King" you are trying to put the majority against me. Simple propaganda, you're telling the masses what would be the best choice for them.
I don't believe a word of it.



And Korlat is a certain GB (through death), he claims getting the GK and the Spider killed...but also throws around so much shit, it's not even funny. But he and Rash had a thing, so I'll look into that.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 07:11 AM

Like I said before I don't get any of the Game 'reveal'. Why do that and then not vote? I mean why reveal at all unless he had a reason to believe Emur was a power/leader role, but then to not vote...somethings up with that whole thing. Barghasts idea about a defense might be something, but it still seems riksy play to me.

And now Eloth is making waves, perhaps there is something to the Emur thing after all...I mean thats what it took to get him to say something other than wierd nonsense. That said I think Barg is right. If there is anyone powerful on there its more likely to be the two pushing it...one vote doesnt make a train and shoulnt cause any panic. But they jumped on pretty quick, prhaps seeing an easy lynch not in there faction? Also, if they are symping Sil then that was really dumb play, one maybe, but 2? No way.

So is Eloth distracting, or is one of those two something to be concerned about. Hmm Galain already has a vote on him. Need to reread Amps case.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 07:47 AM

Amps case seems to be he thinks Galain is GK, which would make him a threat to the other two factions.

Another thing about Eloths latest contribution, hes infering slight confusion again, a good way to make him seem harmless and innofensive? But he's laid down an out there vote, so my theory about him being afraid to speak in case he fucked up is blown out of the water. I'm split three ways now - Emur, Galain or Eloth. CausiosityTM is making me hesitate in case aby are in my faction.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 07:49 AM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Jul 9 2009, 09:11 AM, said:

Like I said before I don't get any of the Game 'reveal'. Why do that and then not vote? I mean why reveal at all unless he had a reason to believe Emur was a power/leader role, but then to not vote...somethings up with that whole thing. Barghasts idea about a defense might be something, but it still seems riksy play to me.

And now Eloth is making waves, perhaps there is something to the Emur thing after all...I mean thats what it took to get him to say something other than wierd nonsense. That said I think Barg is right. If there is anyone powerful on there its more likely to be the two pushing it...one vote doesnt make a train and shoulnt cause any panic. But they jumped on pretty quick, prhaps seeing an easy lynch not in there faction? Also, if they are symping Sil then that was really dumb play, one maybe, but 2? No way.

So is Eloth distracting, or is one of those two something to be concerned about. Hmm Galain already has a vote on him. Need to reread Amps case.


I dont get it either. Gam started the day with a case on Korlat, which is fair enough since he was a fairly obvious choice from the previous night. He pushes me to vote for Korlat, which I say I will do (and later did). Then he claims the case on me was to test if I was Locke since he thought Korlat was Jean. This still kindof makes sense - the Spider knew Roland so maybe Locke knows Jean. His motivations for thinking so are that he has vigged me twice, which is where things start making less sense. I doubt there is anyone with multiple BPs, so if he had been telling the truth then whoever he claimed to have vigged should be dead. I'm still here, so it does make his reveal much less believable. After he revealed he started going on about how he was likely to die, joking with Korlat about a race to spoilers etc. I dont understand why he would reveal to try get me killed, and why he wouldnt use a more damning fake-reveal if he thought he was likely to die for it. Which then makes me feel he was somehow telling the truth and was unlucky to get guarded both nights. But then he doesnt vote for me, despite believing that I am a leader. That just confuses me outright. I know he was either lying or got the wrong end of the stick, but you would think he would remain consistent to his own story.

As for today's vote on me, I agree it does just look like people trying to just get an easy lynch. It's a merc game so fair enough, but voting for me because I havent revealed much about my faction makes very little sense.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 07:53 AM

Now, that's rational and makes a lot of sense...which means we have to lynch you...sorry, but thats mafia law - #13 I believe!

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 07:58 AM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Jul 9 2009, 09:53 AM, said:

Now, that's rational and makes a lot of sense...which means we have to lynch you...sorry, but thats mafia law - #13 I believe!



Isn't that a special law that only applies to DiBs in town games?

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:02 AM

No, you are thinking of rule 69, article 8 subsection a, paragraph xi.:thumbsup:



Edit: Meant to say I have to go, but will be back well before day times out and I will lay down a vote then.

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 09 July 2009 - 08:02 AM


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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:08 AM

View PostSilanah, on Jul 8 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

Woowoo, stuff happened, and suddenly the GB and Basarvi are down 2 each, putting this game back to a dead heat, more or less.


II have a right to make my own cases....and as I saw this I am sure Silanah is trying to lead the game....deary practically jumps up and down at the death of two factions....so I think she's a Grey King and I think she rallied her troops to go for an easy lynch so she can get another night action in....I think it will only be easier tomorrow and she's been quietly trying to discredit and line up my lynch for a couple days....knows what she's doing for sure....and mad that I pointed it out on thread.... :thumbsup: ...can't let people line up lynches in this game....have to stop them...you all knows that. :p

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:16 AM

Oh, well, guarding on Game makes a lot of sense, actually. Thinking from a guard's perspective, I'd say that in this game you'd want to pick a target to guard and stick with it, as knowing if your target was being successfully guarded or not is quite unlikely due to the number of NA's flying around. BUT due to the lack of NK's, a guard could think they got lucky and so guard Game twice. (Though does a vig get used up if you are guarded...not always, so there is that).

Anyway. I think Game's reveal is still lacking in substance, but it has a certain amount of...fearmongering...that perhaps it would be foolish to ignore. We'll see. Atm, there's plenty of time.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:19 AM

View PostEloth, on Jul 9 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jul 8 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

Woowoo, stuff happened, and suddenly the GB and Basarvi are down 2 each, putting this game back to a dead heat, more or less.


II have a right to make my own cases....and as I saw this I am sure Silanah is trying to lead the game....deary practically jumps up and down at the death of two factions....so I think she's a Grey King and I think she rallied her troops to go for an easy lynch so she can get another night action in....I think it will only be easier tomorrow and she's been quietly trying to discredit and line up my lynch for a couple days....knows what she's doing for sure....and mad that I pointed it out on thread.... :thumbsup: ...can't let people line up lynches in this game....have to stop them...you all knows that. :p


I think the point is not that you made a case other than Emur, but rather that, all of a sudden, you did so when Emur gets heat. Before now, you haven't done much, mostly posting that you're confused. *shrug*
What he's saying is that it makes Emur look more like he could be a leader, though personally I'd have expected more of a reaction by now if he was...but that could just be people playing smart.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:33 AM

View PostBarghast, on Jul 9 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

View PostEloth, on Jul 9 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jul 8 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

Woowoo, stuff happened, and suddenly the GB and Basarvi are down 2 each, putting this game back to a dead heat, more or less.


II have a right to make my own cases....and as I saw this I am sure Silanah is trying to lead the game....deary practically jumps up and down at the death of two factions....so I think she's a Grey King and I think she rallied her troops to go for an easy lynch so she can get another night action in....I think it will only be easier tomorrow and she's been quietly trying to discredit and line up my lynch for a couple days....knows what she's doing for sure....and mad that I pointed it out on thread.... :thumbsup: ...can't let people line up lynches in this game....have to stop them...you all knows that. :p


I think the point is not that you made a case other than Emur, but rather that, all of a sudden, you did so when Emur gets heat. Before now, you haven't done much, mostly posting that you're confused. *shrug*
What he's saying is that it makes Emur look more like he could be a leader, though personally I'd have expected more of a reaction by now if he was...but that could just be people playing smart.


This is a faction game....no sense in being a prat like those couple on day 2 and 3....one best serves her team by getting towards the end and catching people trying to control the game...that's clearly Silanah...

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:53 AM

No, it's not clearly Silanah. It's clearly something to do with that trio, but I'd wager more on the two following votes in quick succession. For those two to so blatantly do that after Silanah voted is ridiculous if it's Silanah who is in charge. Would you highlight your leader like that by being the first to follow, and even more so highlight practically your whole team (plus/minus one depending if the team piling on Emur is GB/GK/Bar) by being the second to follow?
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