Shadow, on Jun 1 2009, 06:53 AM, said:
Maybe I am misunderstanding Kesso's comments on the Fener reveal, but I still think he's scum. In facto I think he's a killer and Silanah was his silencer.
Early on they had a bit of banter going on to make sure they weren't seen to be distancing each other, and then when it seemed like there was a possibility of them getting associated Silanah puts on a silly and confused case of me-and-Kess. Silanah silences me, hoping my inability to defend myself will result in me being lynched and when I come up inno Kess and Sil get off scotch-free (at this point they were pushing me and master and Kess was a possible symp). The confusion of the case because of its poor presentation and lack of actual evidence means it never went through.
Next day, Silanah gets voted out for a different case, no silence day 3, presumably none day 4 (Ampelas says nothing, Tellann still hasn't checked in since day/night 3).
I think rule #1 of innos is not to defend anyone else, but, I mean, come on. Korv made the case of Kess symping you, not Silanah, and, even if it was Silanah, how does getting an inno lynched get him off scott-free? This case makes no sense. Either you're scum trying to make a break for the finish line, or you're a finder who knows something that you can't express...oh wait, the finders are dead.
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Shadow, on Jun 1 2009, 07:59 AM, said:
A lot of points in there that need answering so I'm interjecting answers in blue.
Hood's Path, on Jun 1 2009, 11:47 AM, said:
I'm a little concerned about these votes on Kesso. We have yet to hear from Liosan or Tellan in a really long time, and you guys are pushing a lynch based on a statement that made perfect sense to me. I, too, am interested in if what Fener said had any truth in it. I think there's still some weird hit-and-miss kill mechanic going on here and a symp could have easily inherited any power Fener had, so I don't know why you're saying it's impossible that Fener was adding a hint of truth to his fake-reveal. Frankly, I'm pretty suspicious of people who walk around, spouting off 100% truths and acting like the rest of us are idiots if we believe otherwise.
It's rather uncommon for symps to inherit anything other than their respective killer's killing ability, and no, Fener's claims had no truth to them because there were 2 NKs last night.
With that said, I'm also interested in this silence mechanic. Amp still hasn't confirmed whether he was silenced yesterday. Does it take effect just during the day, or the following night, as well? If it includes the night, I guess Amp doesn't have to say anything. Also, Tellan still needs to confirm. I see no reason for you to say it is unlikely someone got silenced yesterday with that still in limbo (unless the silence is a figment of your imagination). And can you not do anything when silenced? Even vote? That would seem highly overpowered (i.e. 3-2 would still be a loss for team inno if one of them is silenced). And why did you wait 2 days to tell us about your silence and flat-out lie the first time you were questioned about it?
You can talk at night, and either way we're into day now so Amp could talk either way. It's unlikely because no one was silenced Day 3 either and if they were gonna silence someone they'd likely have picked someone who actually talks, not Tellann the inactive. AFAIK you cannot post at all, no pics no quotes and assumedly no votes.
There was no point in revealing it first-thing day 3 because then the scum would just hide, so I waited to see who was silenced and how some people reacted to try and spot scum faking their surprise, but everyone checked in day 3, so I sat on it some more with the suspicion Silanah was the silencer (else why no silence day 3 when no one had even noticed it yet), and then day 4 there were a few not talking so I was hoping to see them all log in but they didn't.
Shadow, on May 31 2009, 04:23 PM, said:
Day is 2/3 over and we still haven't heard from Ruse, Ampelas or Tellann all day...
Oh and HP, yes I did spam a bit day 1 and then toned it down, but that's what most people do (at least those who do spam day 1 at all), you get all your spam out of your system day 1 because there's nothing else to do and then day 2 you start playing for real on the actuall actions of people to the spam. I'm hardly unique in that. I didn't post much day 2 at all because I was not at work nearly all day and got home late to boot (tradeshow, very fun but very long and very exhausting).
I think everybody would assume it is similar to a Benses silence in that it can be used on scum, so it's not like revealing that you got silenced makes you CI and a more likely NK target or anything like that.
Which is exactly why I held off on revealing it first thing, since as soon as I did the scum would suddenly be somewhat likely to silence themselves to confuse folks. By not mentioning it, I was postponing them getting creative with it. Plus there was still the very-real possibility that the scum didn't know each other and I was hoping to get one of them to think I was a symp and I could hopefully spot them trying to help me, but unfortunately the case on me died pretty shortly after.
Where does it say we're playing a common game where symps can't inherit powers? Or maybe Fener was describing one of his partner's powers? If the power exists and is still out there, then it's still a viable explanation for why there
were 2 night kills.
On to the next point: you didn't ask if you could vote? That would be the first thing I would be concerned about and would like to clear up if I were silenced.
And how exactly were you expecting people to react to someone being silenced? How would they even know unless someone came out and said, "Hey, I was silenced yesterday"? That seems like something
you could have done to actually get a reaction out of people.
And finally, how does you being silent for an entire day make a killer think you are a symp?
Your whole response reads to me like a scum who saw silence as a possible role and decided not to talk for an entire day to see if it would help him cook up a good PI story later in the game. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but you have already lied to me and you are cooking up bullshit cases, so I'm gonna stick to my suspicions. If you are innocent, you sure aren't acting like it.
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