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Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:47 AM

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View PostStradivarius, on May 22 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

pans labernth. heard it was good. turned out shit


In what way? I thought it was excellent.


I wasn't a fan either. Can't remember why exactly but it just completely failed to grab my attention or my imagination. I got bored about half way through and never came back to it.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:13 AM

I really enjoyed that movie. Just bought it in fact.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:22 AM

I LOVED that film. I love all Del Torro stuff so I suppose I was always going to though. The guy that all the monsters, Doug Jones I think his name is, is fantastic.

Anyone who liked Pan's Labyrinth should watch the Devil's Backbone too. It's similar in some respects to the Orphanage, which is also a cracking film.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:46 AM

View PostThelomen Toblerone, on May 23 2009, 09:22 AM, said:

I love all Del Torro stuff


Even Hellboy 2?
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:09 AM

Hell yes. Even just for Selma Blair. :p

I honestly love both Hellboy films though. Watched Hellboy 2 for about the 50th time only 2 days ago.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:14 AM

The first one was pretty good, mainly because I thought it would be dogshit, but the second was just terrible. I prefer my Del Torros to be of the Benicio variety :p
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:25 AM

I think the secondwas inferior to the first, but by no means terrible. I enjoyed it, but then I haven't watched either one of them a second time.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:31 AM

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:28 PM

View PostThelomen Toblerone, on May 23 2009, 09:22 AM, said:

Anyone who liked Pan's Labyrinth should watch the Devil's Backbone too. It's similar in some respects to the Orphanage, which is also a cracking film.

Ih yeah, The Orphanage was brilliant. That old woman creeped me out for days after seeing it...
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:39 PM

View PostTuberski, on May 20 2009, 04:42 AM, said:

I don't get it the love for the Matrix, horrible story, horrible acting, special effects that were done 3 years earlier in Hong Kong. "Black Mask"
Fixed.
Also: DIE! :(

Being a die hard matrix fanatic (that's right, a fanatic, not just a fan) I feel physically ill whenever people dare to speak such things. I can only conclude that you 1) Don't like sci-fi 2) Don't appreciate intelligent movie making 3)Hate all movies that ever copied a special effect (which basically means every movie that was ever made). 4) You think you are being cool for dissing the Matrix. But the most probable explanation is: 5) You didn't get the movie. It's not like you're the only one that didn't get it, but it's still a depressing intellectual disaster to watch.. :D

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:25 PM

Don't forget the Matrix prequel, Johnny Mnemonic.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:10 PM

To be fair, there's nothing specifically intelligent about the Matrix - it's a rehashed idea from several other stories. It's well done (the first one anyway) and a very good film, but I wouldnt label it anymore "intelligent" than many films. I certainly dont understand how anyone would "fail to get it," although perhaps Im being a little optimistic on behalf of the human race here - we're the same species who continually allow Patrick Kielty to breathe, after all.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:41 PM

View PostGem Windcaster, on May 23 2009, 08:39 PM, said:

View PostTuberski, on May 20 2009, 04:42 AM, said:

I don't get it the love for the Matrix, horrible story, horrible acting, special effects that were done 3 years earlier in Hong Kong. "Black Mask"
Fixed.
Also: DIE! :(

Being a die hard matrix fanatic (that's right, a fanatic, not just a fan) I feel physically ill whenever people dare to speak such things. I can only conclude that you 1) Don't like sci-fi 2) Don't appreciate intelligent movie making 3)Hate all movies that ever copied a special effect (which basically means every movie that was ever made). 4) You think you are being cool for dissing the Matrix. But the most probable explanation is: 5) You didn't get the movie. It's not like you're the only one that didn't get it, but it's still a depressing intellectual disaster to watch.. :D

Ha ha ha FUCK YOU.

1. You can like scifi and dislike a scifi film
2. You hardly have to be intelligent to get some of the messages the Matrix portrays, you just need a working pair of eyes
3. Shitty rebuttal for a crappy argument (no-one saw Black Mask and I don't care if you did)
4. OH NO HE INSULTED MY FAVOURITE HE MUST BE APPEALING TO THE COOL CROWD FOR HATING ON WHAT'S POPULAR

AND 5. FUCK. ING. FIVE. "You didn't get it that's why you didn't like it hurf durf" THIS PISSES ME OFF MORE THAN ALMOST ANYTHING IN THE WORLD AND I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF YOU MEAN IT AS A JOKE JUST CONSIDERING IT AS A REPLY HAS TRIGGERED SO MANY RED FLAGS I WANT YOU TO IMPALE YOURSELF ON A CACTUS

GUESS WHAT? I'M PRETTY FUCKING SURE TELLING HIM HE'S NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND A MOVIE WHERE ONE OF THE LARGER PLOT HOLES COULD BE FIXED BY SWITCHING HUMANS WITH COWS IS BEING A MASSIVE
wait, I promised Hetan I wouldn't use that word FUCKING BITCH that'll do

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:46 PM

Go go gadget Chicken of Hate!

You know, I'm not all that happy about the let's just go ahead and remake old movies because we can't think up anything Hollywood fad that's going around, but I think I'd enjoy a remake of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Be neat what the special effects would look like.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:54 PM

View PostHoosierDaddy, on May 23 2009, 10:46 PM, said:

Go go gadget Chicken of Hate!

You know, I'm not all that happy about the let's just go ahead and remake old movies because we can't think up anything Hollywood fad that's going around, but I think I'd enjoy a remake of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Be neat what the special effects would look like.

The mountain of mashed potato would be CGI. You know it to be true.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:55 PM

The first time I saw Troy, in the cinema, I thought I would explode with rage at the absolute massacring of the original tale which I was witnessing.

The second time I saw Troy, on TV, I liked it.

I actually really liked it.

I think this was because I didn't watch it to see how they would stick to the original story, but instead, knowing that wasn't going to happen, I watched the film for itself. And it wasn't half bad. In fact, I thought it was damn good, especially moments like the one-on-one fight between Achilles and Hector, which I thought was done very well.

Also (don't hit me), I thought Orlando Bloom was good in this film. Think about it, he plays a handsome yet weedy guy - he was born to play that type of role!

Other films:

Alexander was fucking awful. Just....ghuhrhssgdiyGSAsk;jsklj

I Am Legend I didn't see for over a year after it came out, despite really looking forward to it, because I was incredibly busy and other things just kept coming up. Then one night I finally rented it on DVD....and was massively, massively disappointed. I don't know if that's because in my head I had built it up for so long or what, but the final third of the film or so (basically from when the woman and kid appear) sucked for me.

X-Men 3 was rubbish, which was disappointing seeing as both the first two films had been very good.

All Spider-Man films were crap. Melodramatic, confused, badly-done action sequences. And the evil Peter Parker in the third...oh noes, he combs his hair a different way, he's, he's....emo!!!!!

And the film I was more disappointed by then any other, ever:

Northern Lights.

I was so close to just walking out of the cinema. This was not just because of plot departures from one of my favourite series of books (although that played a big part) but because it was just so, so badly written, directed, acted, shot, paced, everything. You have Daniel Craig playing Lord Asriel, and then you give him a scene where he gets taken prisoner, and has to utter the line: 'hold on lads, can't we just talk about this?' Can you fucking imagine dark, brooding, imposing, somewhat brutal Asriel saying that? Can you?!

And the ending. Oh, the ending.

EDIT: Oops, I meant The Golden Compass, not Northern Lights, which is what the book was called in the UK, but they went with the American title. Which is the least worst thing they did, because I suppose that title does at least fit in more with the titles of the other two books in the series.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:57 PM

Yes. It would. Sigh.

Northern Lights? Off to IMDB for me.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:59 PM

Shit, you're right, I meant fucking Golden Compass. SIGH
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 10:04 PM

Yep, Golden Compass was a bag o' shite.

Yet another example of an excellent premise butchered at the altar of mediocrity/ conformity.
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Posted 24 May 2009 - 06:42 AM

View PostIlluyankas, on May 23 2009, 11:41 PM, said:

Ha ha ha FUCK YOU.

1. You can like scifi and dislike a scifi film
2. You hardly have to be intelligent to get some of the messages the Matrix portrays, you just need a working pair of eyes
3. Shitty rebuttal for a crappy argument (no-one saw Black Mask and I don't care if you did)
4. OH NO HE INSULTED MY FAVOURITE HE MUST BE APPEALING TO THE COOL CROWD FOR HATING ON WHAT'S POPULAR

AND 5. FUCK. ING. FIVE. "You didn't get it that's why you didn't like it hurf durf" THIS PISSES ME OFF MORE THAN ALMOST ANYTHING IN THE WORLD AND I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF YOU MEAN IT AS A JOKE JUST CONSIDERING IT AS A REPLY HAS TRIGGERED SO MANY RED FLAGS I WANT YOU TO IMPALE YOURSELF ON A CACTUS

GUESS WHAT? I'M PRETTY FUCKING SURE TELLING HIM HE'S NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND A MOVIE WHERE ONE OF THE LARGER PLOT HOLES COULD BE FIXED BY SWITCHING HUMANS WITH COWS IS BEING A MASSIVE
wait, I promised Hetan I wouldn't use that word FUCKING BITCH that'll do

In conclusion, using 'you don't get it' is an instant sign of your irrevocable mental atrophy, and I want you to fuck off and die in as bloody and viseral a fashion as possible. If it is a joke I'll apologise for the insults and calls for suicide but never ever fucking use that immature retarded argument again.


You obviously don't get that film, Illuyankas.
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