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Twilight: Wet dreams becoming reality... ...and not in a good way.

#1181 User is offline   Ain't_It_Just_ 

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 02:07 PM

View PostSombra, on 29 June 2010 - 08:23 AM, said:

Film reviewer tells it like it is :p

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REVIEW: TWILIGHT SAGA - ECLIPSE

* By Devin Faraci

Somehow the Twilight films are getting worse. The more money Summit spends on them, the shittier they become. The first film was bad, but had a ragged charm all its own. The second film, New Moon, was a turgid disaster that finally sputtered out with a complete non-climax. And now the third, Eclipse, is just a tedious slog fit only for the most devoted Twihards. Boring, stupid and utterly squandering the concept of a vampire army fighting werewolves, Eclipse makes New Moon look like a snappy screwball comedy.

Eclipse is a movie where people just stand around talking at each other, delivering the plot and the absurdly minimalist character progression in expositiony chunks. Edward and Bella, now looking to get married, have no less than seven hundred ninety two discussions about why Bella becoming a vampire could be a bad idea. There are a scant four hundred sixty eight conversations between Bella and Jacob about how much he loves her, and how she will come to see that she loves him too. And the movie just keeps going like that, a series of stagnant two-handers that feel like your soap opera-addicted Aunt Edna decided to turn her daily stories into Off-Off-Off-Broadway theater. Like Boise, Idaho Off-Broadway theater.

Some people may be fooled into thinking that Eclipse is watchable because of increased production value - the huge fuzzy CGI werewolves look better this time - and because of a handful of flashbacks that almost threaten to add scope to this claustrophobic world made up entirely of self-absorbed bores. But they're wrong. This film is not watchable. It's a mess, a slow and painful mess that is almost like anti-cinema.

I don't even know where to start. The source material, obviously, is awful. The script, once again by Melissa Rosenberg, is faithful to a fault. If Rosenberg were a good writer she would have taken Stephenie Meyer's seemingly endless scenes of idiots talking and reworked them into at least scenes of idiots doing something interesting while talking. Director David Slade is of no help, having seemingly lost the touch that made a previous movie about two people just talking - Hard Candy - so electric. Slade mostly establishes the setting, introduces the characters, has them talk at each other in various close-ups, and then cuts to the next boring scene. He throws in a couple of things here and there - the aforementioned flashbacks to the Pioneer era, the Civil War and some Flapper bullshit - but every dialogue scene feels like he's just biding his time to get to one of the very, very few action scenes.

Slade's exhaustingly mundane direction is in no way helped by the actors. Kristen Stewart stumbles her way through the movie, essaying perhaps the single most despicable female hero in history (seriously, there's a scene at the end on a mountain top where she seems to just be fucking with Edward and Jacob's heads for the hell of it). Robert Pattinson morphs into Luke Perry right before our eyes, but with half the 90210 star's charisma or talent. Pattinson is, to his credit, a touch looser here than in previous film - he seems to have made peace with this bullshit and is trying to keep himself amused. Taylor Lautner, meanwhile, is mostly embarrassing. He comes across like a smart alecky rentboy, all shirtless poses and dense, sub-intellectual eyes. Lautner appears to have bought his own hype and he just keeps acting the shit out of every scene, filling every line reading with pulsating, hammy, unearned intensity. It's almost fascinating watching Lautner and Pattinson square off in a number of scenes, with the vampire essentially reducing his entire performance to shrugs and eyebrows set askew while the werewolf brings the simmering force of a hundred thousand high school Hamlets.

Eclipse basically treads a whole bunch of the same ground we went over in the last terrible movie, except this time Jacob keeps coming across like a rapist in training. There's supposed to be a love triangle between Bella, Edward and Jacob, but there is so little sexual chemistry between Stewart and Lautner that no tension exists at all. You don't have to be spoiled on what's coming next to know that there's not a chance in hell that Bella and Jacob end up together, and as you're sitting through two hours of this shit you wonder why anybody even bothered filming this garbage. It's Foregone Conclusion: The Motion Picture.

There is, in a vague sense, a larger plot to this film. Victoria, the redheaded evil vampire from the previous films (now played by Bryce Dallas Howard) is gathering an army of Newborn vampires to come fuck up Bella and her friends. Meanwhile, the ludicrous looking Volturi, who appear to be a group of tweens with a penchant for LARPing, are kind of hanging around, being all not menacing and stuff. Like New Moon the plot takes a backseat to the terrible writing and hateful characters; the movie occasionally flashes to a soundstage that Slade would really, really like us to believe is Seattle, but the vampire army doesn't really show up until the last few minutes of the movie. There's no tension here either because it quickly becomes obvious that this sorry excuse for a script is going to keep dragging the vampire army story along as long as it can.

The few action scenes rise above the rest of the film to the level of generic. Slade's happy to undercrank and shake the camera and have a whole bunch of almost literally anonymous vampires fight some CGI wolves and our more metaphorically anonymous vampire heroes for five or so minutes. There are a couple of moments here and there, but not enough to rescue the film; the vampires turn to marble or something when they're killed and they can shatter, so you would think a horror guy like Slade would take advantage of the bloodless possibilities for PG-13 mayhem. Spoiler: he doesn't. There are a couple of neato beheadings, but mostly it's just repeated scenes of vampires clotheslining each other (this appears to be the vampire's number one move - running at full speed at one another and then clotheslining each other).

Eclipse is probably going to get a reputation as the subversive film, or the self-aware one - there are a couple of self-referential jokes that characters crack, including Edward asking if Jacob owns a shirt. Most of the laughs remain unintentional, though; I couldn't help but giggle at almost every shot of the Cullen family, who look like nothing so much as a troupe of silent movie actors with their faces slathered in white pancake make-up. Jackson Rathbone remains my favorite; he stares around wide-eyed like a brain-damaged lizard, and this time he becomes severely Southern while recounting his secret origin from the Civil War. Every time that guy pops up on screen I laugh. Peter Facinelli, playing Poppa Cullen with all the gravitas of a mayonaise sandwich, comes in a close second. And you haven't lived until you've watched the incredible, awful, bizarre and retarded 'Jacob needs to snuggle with Bella while Edward watches' scene. I swear the last time I saw this level of ineptness in a major studio release it involved Mark Wahlberg running from the wind (disclosure: I think The Happening is a brilliant piece of bad cinema. I do not feel the same way about Eclipse).

Three films in and I remain baffled by the popularity of this franchise. This story is not good, these characters are flat and dull, the mythology is generic and derivative, the romantic themes are centuries outdated. And that's just the books - the films are possibly even worse, because at least it only took Stephenie Meyers to write a bad book. Eclipse is the result of poor work from many actors, the writer, the director, and the producers. The only people who come out looking good are the below the line employees, as Eclipse is the most polished looking of all the Twilight movies. But you know what they say about polished turds, right? They're still Twilight movies.

2 out of 10


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Posted 29 June 2010 - 02:23 PM

Twishite in 4 lines:

Bella - "Edward, I love you, but I'm so confused. Boost my self-esteem."
Edward - "Bella, I love you, but we can't be together. And I'm definitely not emo or gay."
Jacob - "Check out my abs and pecs. I'm so much better than Edward. And not gay at all."
Repeat ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 02:37 PM

Summary of last 40 pages of thread:

'Twilight's shit.'

'Yeah totally, it's like, so shit, you know?'

'Yeah, thank God someone gets it.'
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 03:17 PM

View PostMTS, on 29 June 2010 - 02:37 PM, said:

Summary of last 40 pages of thread:

'Twilight's shit.'

'Yeah totally, it's like, so shit, you know?'

'Yeah, thank God someone gets it.'


Summary of the last post of thread:

'This thread's about saying Twilight is shit.'

Thank god someone gets that.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 04:02 PM

It must be repeatedly stated that Twilight is shit.

Every week, every day, in fact, more girls become teenagers and seem to instantly go batshit crazy over the idea of sparkly non-threatening vampires with great powers of stalking.

Half a year ago I didn't even know of the existence of Twilight until someone made me sit through the first movie. After that I wished I didn't know of the existence of Twilight, which seemed to be popping up everywhere.

It's nice to know not everyone has gone mental.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 07:21 PM

I got a shock today when I entered a library and saw Twilight .... translated in romanian. Good lord, someone actually had to translate that piece of shit? I promptly about faced and walked out before the hamburger in my stomach decided to come up for air.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 07:23 PM

well as translations genaraly are WORSE than the origianal twilight translations cant be all bad can it i mean everything that makes more people disslike it is worth it, right?
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 06:38 AM

Yeah but ...... my god. I know how the US can win in Afghanistan and Iraq .... just carpet bomb the countries with Twilight books (translated of course). After that, nukes will seem like a more humane method of killing people.

Gods I'm evil for even thinking about that :p .
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 07:39 AM

View Postberu, on 30 June 2010 - 07:23 PM, said:

well as translations genaraly are WORSE than the origianal twilight translations cant be all bad can it i mean everything that makes more people disslike it is worth it, right?



Au contraire, my dear Beru. I've since formulated a law regarding translations: if the book is good, then the translation sucks (MBotF); if the book is awful then the translation actually makes it slightly better in terms of prose( Twilight, Da Vinci Code, SoT)
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 07:40 AM

Twilight: Eclipse - the 8 bit game

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 01:57 PM

Saw this in a shop front window tonight, made my already fantastic evening:
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:53 PM

Moved into a new flat today, and me and my flatmate discovered that the last people to live there had kindly left us a twilight poster. There was only one solution...

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 02:36 AM

View PostMTS, on 01 July 2010 - 01:57 PM, said:

Saw this in a shop front window tonight, made my already fantastic evening:
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The person who did that, is now my favourite person evah.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:02 AM

I have been dragged into bringing my sister to see Eclipse tomorrow. Unfortunate? Maybe..................................................... Yeah. Totally. But as if I`m gonna tell her no.
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 05:19 AM

View PostBlend, on 02 July 2010 - 06:02 AM, said:

I have been dragged into bringing my sister to see Eclipse tomorrow. Unfortunate? Maybe..................................................... Yeah. Totally. But as if I`m gonna tell her no.


Dude, it's time to activate your universal bonding matrix. Eliminate your stable atom structure and dissipate into the cosmos. We will have a homing device planted by our agents stationed in the Ether. Wait for the signal.

.........what the fuck am I doing here? I should be writing sci-fi, damnit!
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 09:18 PM

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:16 AM

View PostDag, on 03 July 2010 - 09:18 PM, said:



Though it pains me to say it, all those deaths might have been a worthy sacrifice. :p
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:16 PM

I know this was asking for a slap in the face anyway, but I just glanced at my Facebook updates. ALL, and I mean ALL, the women on it, are gushing either about how they're going to see it, or how they lurve Jacob.

I need some new friends. Guys, any of you prepared to put on a wig and do my nails?

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:40 PM

You know what the only good thing about this series is. The fact that every other really terrible book now uses exactly the same edgy 'black with a splash of red and some mundane object' cover. Meaning there are now rows upon rows of indistinguishable books that can be easily avoided.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 04:07 PM

View PostHellian, on 04 July 2010 - 03:16 PM, said:

I know this was asking for a slap in the face anyway, but I just glanced at my Facebook updates. ALL, and I mean ALL, the women on it, are gushing either about how they're going to see it, or how they lurve Jacob.I need some new friends. Guys, any of you prepared to put on a wig and do my nails? Aggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


You do realise our idea of doing your nails is probably somewhere along the lines of cutting them as short as possible (with hopefully a minimum of blood) or just biting them?

View Postalt146, on 04 July 2010 - 03:40 PM, said:

You know what the only good thing about this series is. The fact that every other really terrible book now uses exactly the same edgy 'black with a splash of red and some mundane object' cover. Meaning there are now rows upon rows of indistinguishable books that can be easily avoided.


Yes, but those rows - they growz! At the expense of the good stuff, I have sadly noted recently at my local book stores. :(
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