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Twilight: Wet dreams becoming reality... ...and not in a good way.

#1221 User is offline   Mr.James 

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 09:54 PM

I dont know if anyone posted this before....but theyre making Twilight credit cards now?.. seriosly, WTF???
I'll never cease to be amazed with how low these guys are going. I mean, do the Twilight fan base -13 year old twittards mostly, I know there are older people who like it but I try to erase that from my mind every day- really need a credit card, I mean i dont know if this is common, but I dont see many 13-15 year old girls having credit cards now adays...


check it here : http://filmdrunk.upr...tinence-parable
not the best site but the quickest one i found..I saw the ad on the street today...

also a little fun face...the new movie is called 'Hesitation' here in France, now i dont know what that means in french...but it made me laugh a little inside...

and enjoy these pics...sorry if theyre reposts...

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 02:36 AM

Here is a list. Which is the odd one out?
Great Expectations, The Bell Jar, Through The Looking Glass, Twilight.

I was in the uni bookstore today getting my books for second semester ($300 - ouch). Normally a trip to the bookstore is a happy experience, but today it was not. I was perusing through the course booklists when I happened upon an English class I had not looked at much before. It sounded pretty cool - it was called 'My Generation: Narratives on Youth'. Oh yes. You can see what's coming. You don't want to imagine it has creeped its way into university curricula, but it has. Oh it has. It's sitting there, laughing maniacally at how its insipid vacuousness has managed to infect everything. It has mutated, taken several forms, and is now a cankerous wart on the ANU English Department's credibility.

And now it's staring at new students with its bright topaz eyes, welcoming those innocent minds with the promise of distinguished company, supple, rippling prose and strong, universal thematic elements. They open the book, eager to disseminate a lasting work of literature. Their minds race at the import of every word, searching for that subtle nuance of Meyerian genius that surely must exist within these pages. For it is a university text, is it not? But while they are searching, something strange happens. A niggling feeling in the backs of their minds, a moment of bemusement.
What is this we are reading?, they ask. It's like sexist, Mormon abstinence-porn.
They are baffled. Like so many of us, they wonder at the appeal, the value.
It represents the voice of a generation, they are told. It represents the struggle of the modern teenager to choose their own life.
They nod their heads, appreciating that it contains some literary merit, as do all books. The Sword of Truth warns us against the dangers of autonomous chickens and unraped women, after all. Valuable lessons both.

But does that mean we should ignore the many faults, because of a trite theme? they ask, still confused. Wise words. They note the blatant sexism, the infantilisation and vapidity of the main character and in one case grievous and horrific domestic abuse that is presented as normal. They do not mention the pedophilia or a host of other things, for wise as they are, they know they do not need to.

The lecturer stares at her students, clucking her moist tongue and tapping her exquisitely beautiful foot against the rough carpet of her office. She sits silent for a time, apparently pondering a response, her copy of Wuthering Heights left forgotten in her lap. A stray lock of blonde hair hangs across her face, only enhancing her breathtakingly beautiful pose. Suddenly she stretches her unbelievably long, languorous legs and stands, fixing her students with a sharp glare of her sinkingly deep emerald eyes.

'You just do not understand.'
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 03:44 PM

View PostMr.James, on 15 July 2010 - 09:54 PM, said:

I dont know if anyone posted this before....but theyre making Twilight credit cards now?.. seriosly, WTF???
I'll never cease to be amazed with how low these guys are going. I mean, do the Twilight fan base -13 year old twittards mostly, I know there are older people who like it but I try to erase that from my mind every day- really need a credit card, I mean i dont know if this is common, but I dont see many 13-15 year old girls having credit cards now adays...


check it here : http://filmdrunk.upr...tinence-parable
not the best site but the quickest one i found..I saw the ad on the street today...

also a little fun face...the new movie is called 'Hesitation' here in France, now i dont know what that means in french...but it made me laugh a little inside...

and enjoy these pics...sorry if theyre reposts...



Hesitation means the same thing it does in English. To Hesitate.
The first movie was translated as "La Fascination" which is again the same thing.
The second was "Tentation" which means Temptation.
Though this is also the name the books had in French.
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:28 AM

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:43 AM

There is, in my opinion, value in studying Twilight in an English class. At a certain level, you need to examine what works on a popular level, and also study the difference between classic writing and trash writing. Being abominable and shit doesn't mean it isn't worth studying.
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:47 AM

indeed, even studying Nazi ideology have its merits but as Friedrich Nietzsche said:He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:52 AM

As amusing as this can get, we really need to teach people that vampires don't sparkle in the sunlight. Anyone care to join me on a vampire hunt? We'll tie them down and leave them for the sun - that way twitards will learn there aren't any sparkles. Just horrifying screams as they burn (along with the smell of cooked meat) and finally just ashes.

Obviously I'm not gonna burn the vampire chicks - those I'll invite home for some wine, blood and orgy. It went well last time.
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 01:21 PM

View Postberu, on 01 October 2010 - 10:47 AM, said:

indeed, even studying Nazi ideology have its merits but as Friedrich Nietzsche said:He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.


I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the idea of Abyss gazing into me. Depends on the ... perspective ... I guess. :D

View PostGarak, on 01 October 2010 - 10:52 AM, said:

As amusing as this can get, we really need to teach people that vampires don't sparkle in the sunlight. Anyone care to join me on a vampire hunt? We'll tie them down and leave them for the sun - that way twitards will learn there aren't any sparkles. Just horrifying screams as they burn (along with the smell of cooked meat) and finally just ashes. Obviously I'm not gonna burn the vampire chicks - those I'll invite home for some wine, blood and orgy. It went well last time.


Don't forget vampires didn't have fatal solar-related impediments until the movie "Nosferatu". Dracula was all about going for an afternoon stroll. He would have made sparkly vampires (henceforth "spampires" for multiple reasons) his bitches - and not in the fun Laurel K Hamilton-type way either. :)
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Posted 04 October 2010 - 09:26 AM

View PostGarak, on 01 October 2010 - 10:52 AM, said:

As amusing as this can get, we really need to teach people that vampires don't sparkle in the sunlight. Anyone care to join me on a vampire hunt? We'll tie them down and leave them for the sun - that way twitards will learn there aren't any sparkles. Just horrifying screams as they burn (along with the smell of cooked meat) and finally just ashes.

Obviously I'm not gonna burn the vampire chicks - those I'll invite home for some wine, blood and orgy. It went well last time.


I'm in. Let's lassoo a couple of Red Court bastards. Now there are some vampires you can depend on!
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Posted 04 October 2010 - 11:01 AM

why not throw the white court at the twilight fans? they are the definition of a smorgasbord to a white court vampire
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 12:50 PM


It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:18 PM

I managed to watch about 26 seconds of that. I'm pretty proud of myself.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:19 PM

You should also note it's parody. Awesome channel, in any case - esp. the 'Now you know' series.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:22 PM

I did not note that. Thank you, now its funny.
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:41 PM

Okay, so I think I posted in this thread some months back - maybe even a year ago, not sure - that I had downloaded the Twilight books nefariously and that I wanted to at least try to read them so that I could have an informed opinion. I read a page or two and became convinced that it was banal, and while I still intended to try to read some more later, I somehow never got around to it.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago, as I'm at Wal-mart and bored while they put a tire on my car (which takes two hours). I found myself in the books section. I didn't have enough money to get a book (tire wiped me out), so I didn't want to read something that was going to make me want to finish it. Then I noticed the Twilight books, and thought, 'hey, I'm bored so I'll read this and I probably won't care to finish it, but if I do, the books are on my laptop. yay.'

My first impression (from Wal-mart) was not that the writing was bad - it wasn't particularly good (not everyone can be Stephen King) but it was competent writing - but that the story was remarkably limited and unambitious.

Nevertheless, I found myself wanting to read on. Maybe it's because I'm a girl, after all. I found myself liking Edward (in the books, he's a very compelling character despite being a little unbelievable) and even sympathizing with Bella. She wasn't a typical Mary Sue character because she is pretty much a Plain Jane and there are actual plot reasons why every guy in town (including Edward) suddenly has the hots for her (which kinda freaks her out). It's a small town and she's the new girl. She's moderately attractive, which makes it believable when all the guys hone in on her. Edward's reason is that her blood smells really good to him, and if things were normal he'd just kill her and be done with the obsession but he's a good vampire, so he can't. So while the plot is unambitious, it is nevertheless logical and even trend-bending in quite a few cases.

I got bored in the second book (New Moon) because Edward went away and it gets into the whole werewolves (who aren't really werewolves) thing, and I was like, 'I thought these books were about vampires!' So, no Edward, and I like Bella but she is not as interesting as Edward, and then she starts hanging out with this Jacob dude (because she's miserable and depressed), and the reader is like 'no, no, noooo you stupid girl Edward is coming back!' At this point I started to dislike Bella, because back in book one she flirted with the guy to get him to tell her what his tribe knew about the Cullen family, and he's the one who told her they were vampires. At the time, the deception was annoying, but worth the price of the information she got, but when she starts hanging out with him in book two it's really easy to hate her for it because you know that Edward is somehow going to come back, and that she's going to choose Edward over Jacob, which is totally not fair to the kid.

I was sort of dreading the end of book two for that reason, and also because I figured that the plot details would be cheesy. She gave the impression that Bella was going to put herself in so much danger that Edward would actually come save her from it, but she actually set up a nice drama for the end and made it believable - very believable - and she went in a different place than the average reader would expect. She even dropped clues earlier in the book about where she was going, with Romeo and Juliet. At that point, I was pretty impressed, relative to the unambitious nature of the story. There's actually some creativity and good plotting in it. When you back up and look at it again from a book snob's perspective, it's still relatively cheesy and unambitious, but it's not your average crap that has no redeeming qualities when the romance aspect is removed.

It actually started to get really good in book three (Eclipse) with the whole Edward vs Jacob thing. I enjoyed book four (Breaking Dawn) but at the same time, I feel a compulsion to write a fanfic with an alternate ending, because the treatment of Jacob's character, while technically fair, is still disappointing. It's not like I really believed that she was going to make the love triangle work - she's pretty conservative, for a romance author - but it was such a good love triangle. Also, the whole marriage and baby thing was a little too traditional for me even without the tempting alternate ending of a happy threesome. The resolution at the end with the Volturi was....tame. And unsatisfactory in a lot of ways, despite some amazing potential.

So, the movies. Some time while reading the first book, I watched a trailer for the first movie, and I was just appalled at the acting. It was bad. Really bad, especially Rob Pattinson. So I was convinced at that point that I didn't want to watch the movies, and decided instead to read up on the actors and what people had said about their performances to see if my impression from the trailer was accurate. I found that Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart defend each other's acting a lot in interviews, which is interesting, and Pattinson has flat out stated that he can't act, that's he's just guessing at what to do most of the time. I also noted that he's English, which explained at least partly why he was so bad - doing the American accent apparently makes him think too much. He often stops in the middle of his sentences as if he's reminding himself how to pronounce what he has to say next. It makes him a very awkward Edward. Since they had to change so much for the movies, I kinda wish they had made Edward English. It would have been easy enough, since he is theoretically adopted, and his story could have happened as easily in London as in Chicago, probably. But oh well.

To make a long story short, I watched the movies because I liked the actors as people. Their lives are weird - none of them quite expected to become the modern day Beatles when they signed up for the first film. They have screaming fans following them everywhere they go. They're modest people with relatively modest ambitions. And the movies were not bad aside from their little problems with acting, which get better as time goes on. Kristen Stewart in particular gets better, and Taylor Lautner is not bad from the beginning. He's not incredibly great either, but he's better than Rob Pattinson. I noticed in New Moon that his acting was a little off, and after watching an interview with him I realized that's probably because he's gay. In any case, his Jacob voice is a little manlier than his real voice - or at least, it was. I've noticed he's started using his manly voice (which is still pretty gay) even in interviews now. Sometimes he slips back and forth. Also, I think he might possibly be the hottest dude to come out of Hollywood in years. Perhaps ever.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:51 AM

View PostTerez, on 13 March 2011 - 09:41 PM, said:


To make a long story short, I watched the movies because I liked the actors as people. Their lives are weird - none of them quite expected to become the modern day Beatles when they signed up for the first film. They have screaming fans following them everywhere they go. They're modest people with relatively modest ambitions. And the movies were not bad aside from their little problems with acting, which get better as time goes on. Kristen Stewart in particular gets better, and Taylor Lautner is not bad from the beginning. He's not incredibly great either, but he's better than Rob Pattinson. I noticed in New Moon that his acting was a little off, and after watching an interview with him I realized that's probably because he's gay. In any case, his Jacob voice is a little manlier than his real voice - or at least, it was. I've noticed he's started using his manly voice (which is still pretty gay) even in interviews now. Sometimes he slips back and forth. Also, I think he might possibly be the hottest dude to come out of Hollywood in years. Perhaps ever.


Just saying.









Good post on the whole, I'm impressed that you managed to remain objective.

As to the bolded underlined part, I'm going to offer a slight correction:


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Also, I think he might possibly be the hottest boy to come out of Hollywood in years. Perhaps ever.


I'd also like to add that Gregory Peck, Bruce Campbell and Sean Connery (as well as many others) are all far hotter, handsomer and manlier than he will ever be.


edit: Cut down the quote, doesn't need to be re-posted right after.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 06:04 AM

And he did gay porn. Just saying.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 06:29 AM

View PostDarkwatch, on 14 March 2011 - 01:51 AM, said:

Good post on the whole, I'm impressed that you managed to remain objective.

I am sort of impressed with myself, too. I was sort of geared up to be a book snob about it, but it didn't really happen that way. The Twilight books aren't in our league, as far as what we look for in books (complexity, highbrow prose, etc.) but they are very good at what they set out to accomplish.

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Also, I think he might possibly be the hottest boy to come out of Hollywood in years. Perhaps ever.


I'd also like to add that Gregory Peck, Bruce Campbell and Sean Connery (as well as many others) are all far hotter, handsomer and manlier than he will ever be.

Well, that's pretty subjective. Aside from the manliness bit. I'd probably put Bruce Campbell even with the kid on manliness. And 'boy' is an acceptable correction. He is rather young and boyish.

View PostAdjutant Stormy, on 14 March 2011 - 06:04 AM, said:

And he did gay porn. Just saying.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 07:46 AM

@Terez
Please, go back to writing about WoT and sexytimes. Reading your alternately objective and subjective analysis of Twishite was a tad disturbing for me. :)

This is a Twishite-BASHING thread, ffs! Stop derailing the hate with your logic! :)

BTW, all jokes aside, is Taylor Lautner really gay? I mean, I thought part of the whole joke was that he really, really fit the closeted Hollywood star stereotype but supposedly wasn't?
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:43 AM

He refuses to deny. I don't remember what all has been said in this thread and I didn't even read most of it, but this is from his interview with Rolling Stone:

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RS: Another possibility is that maybe you're just sort of discovering yourself...

TL: OK.


RS: As a young person trying to figure out his sexual identity in the world...

TL: OK. I see where you're going. Interesting choice.

RS: It is a possibility...

TL: There's a lot of rumors out there.


The general assumption is that his two publicized 'relationships' were studio set-ups. They certainly didn't seem to have much substance, and neither lasted long. For example, he insinuated on SNL when he hosted it that he and Taylor Swift were dating (while doing some really gay things like twirling a baton), though he never actually said it right out (there were rumors about it because they had been seen together in public). And then, every single skit he did had blatant gay themes - he plays a girl (a twihard who loves Edward no less), and a gay Dutchboy (or is he supposed to be Russian? In any case I find it funny that not a single twihard on the internet seems to realize he's not just mispronouncing Santa Claus), an effeminate kid who doesn't even seem to realize he's gay (check out the subtext in that one - the blue ball is my favorite, but the chocolate-raspberry yogurt isn't bad either), and a football player who is questionable at best. He plays a straight guy in this one, but there happens to be a gay couple in the skit. The episode probably wouldn't have been all that funny if not for the rumors, but as it was it was pretty entertaining. And then there was this blind item:

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This young actor is quickly working his way up in Hollywood. He has been doing anything he can imagine to cement himself in the industry. He almost didn't get the role that made him who he is because his sexuality is not hidden with people in the know. It's not that he flaunts it, it's quite the opposite. He doesn't even mention it at all, and has never been with a man. Or a woman for that matter.

He refuses to play the dating game anymore since the one time they convinced him to do it, he ended up looking like a bigger ass than before. Now he just plays the type that is too busy for a relationship and refuses to do what he is told. When threatened that if he didn't, no studio would ever work with him, what did he do? He told them he would make his own movies and that they could replace him and THEY could come up with a reason why. He knew he was instrumental to the studio and used it to his advantage.

He promised would ruin the fame that they so quickly built up by exposing all of their PR set-ups. And if that were to happen, the world would implode. He got into the shark tank and fought fire with fire and won. Some older actors should take a page from his book.


Dunno how much stock can be put in these things, but it does fit.

Edit, so I don't spam the thread:

Taylor talks about meeting screaming fans in the bathroom (not girls)

Taylor talks about his dream relationship in gender neutral language, scoffs at Oprah 'I have to choose a lady?'...plus Rob Pattinson cracks a 'must like beef patties' joke and Kristen Stewart adds 'must make delicious beef patties' (supposedly a reference to his body-building diet - yeah right!)

Look at this shirt he's wearing! It's so gay! (Back in the day when they weren't even sure there would be a second movie.)

This post has been edited by Terez: 18 March 2011 - 08:49 AM

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