[Ruse]

Here comes the finder reveal? Paired with Shadow?

[Omtose]

I never said I didn't think you weren't scum, I made two cases against you stating why I thought your actions were scummy. I was just saying that yes I could be wrong and you might be inno, but you have made such a big stir with your behaviour that it's actually hurting the inno team. I still don't like the way you were randomly voting people and putting pressure on others to vote. It seemed scummy to me, so yes you could be scum and be back tracking now to save yourself. It would be convenient for you if we decided you were a little over the top and no scum would act like that, but left you around if you calmed down and let you continue to kill people unchecked.

[Fener]

***Healer, heal me***

Ruse, on Apr 27 2009, 02:48 AM, said:

Here comes the finder reveal? Paired with Shadow?

Bingo!

OK. So at 9 votes on me I have no choice any more. And i'm really hoping we do have a healer.

I'm a finder. And Mockra is guilty.

Gamelon was investigated on night 1, and came up innocent. Mockra night 2.

Why do you think i've been so focused on Mockra today? I was hoping a few people would jump on and PI themselves, but only Kesso has done that. Shadow looks pretty innocent too, due to pointing out the possible symp clue.

Apart from that, i've really messed today up. Most of you look guilty, to be honest. I guess I should work on my style, but a lot of the criticism of me has to be coming from evil players anyway.

[Fener]

Anybody who doesn't believe me, the obvious and easy solution to that is to lynch Mockra. An innocent result will prove me to be an evil liar.

Now i'm going to try to get some sleep. Don't lynch anybody until I get back, although feel free to vote if you're not going to be around later. I'd rather we left the lynch until the last hour or so, increasing the likelyhood that any healer will see my reveal.

[Fener]

Ruse, on Apr 27 2009, 02:48 AM, said:

Here comes the finder reveal? Paired with Shadow?

Whoops, sorry. Not paired with Shadow. That would be silly, given Shadow's vote on me.

[Omtose]

What are we sitting at now how many votes do we need for a lynch on fener? If it's one or two I'll withdraw my vote so we can discuss this.

[Kessobahn]

Ruse, on Apr 27 2009, 02:34 AM, said:

Isn't it kind of pretentious to lynch one guy cause the other guy says so and if we are wrong then "oppsie" we'll just lynch the other guy. I made a case on you. Are you comfortable with me saying guys I know it's Kessobahn and if I'm wrong well you can just lynch me tomorrow? It's a good way to narrow things down, but it really sucks for you doesn't it?

You're right. It's extremely pretentious. I'd be miffed as all hell if I was innocent and you were saying "Vote Kesso and if he's inno vote me next' but if you were absolutely convinced i was guilty i would understand your call.

fener has revealed finder and he did so right after your 'incoming finder reveal' because let's face it, that's a common tactic to use when almost voted out...

but fener has been far too aggressive on mockra today to consider this as some kind of last-second attempt to not die.

if you lynch fener today, you will not learn anything about him because i am 100% convinced he is not going to turn up guilty

[Omtose]

Kessobahn, on Apr 26 2009, 08:01 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 27 2009, 02:34 AM, said:

Isn't it kind of pretentious to lynch one guy cause the other guy says so and if we are wrong then "oppsie" we'll just lynch the other guy. I made a case on you. Are you comfortable with me saying guys I know it's Kessobahn and if I'm wrong well you can just lynch me tomorrow? It's a good way to narrow things down, but it really sucks for you doesn't it?

You're right. It's extremely pretentious. I'd be miffed as all hell if I was innocent and you were saying "Vote Kesso and if he's inno vote me next' but if you were absolutely convinced i was guilty i would understand your call.

fener has revealed finder and he did so right after your 'incoming finder reveal' because let's face it, that's a common tactic to use when almost voted out...

but fener has been far too aggressive on mockra today to consider this as some kind of last-second attempt to not die.

if you lynch fener today, you will not learn anything about him because i am 100% convinced he is not going to turn up guilty

Sorry mis typed I am adding my response in now...

With Fener's reveal I have to agree with you, he's got very little to gain if he's lying because he will be lynched immediately when day starts up. So he's really only buying himself one day or I guess you could look at it as one last kill. With this new info it does seem we have more to gain by lynching Mockra we will at least have more certifiable info in the end. At this point I am going to remove my vote I will be around for another two or three hours and can put the vote back or vote Mockra depending on what we decide.

remove vote

Edit: to add Fener if you really are telling the truth your style of game play leaves a bit to be desired! You've made a bit of a mess here!

This post has been edited by Omtose: 27 April 2009 - 02:10 AM

[Ruse]

Fener, on Apr 26 2009, 06:55 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 27 2009, 02:48 AM, said:

Here comes the finder reveal? Paired with Shadow?

Whoops, sorry. Not paired with Shadow. That would be silly, given Shadow's vote on me.

I won't comment on that pending my believing or not believing you. I saw the reveal coming. It was your only move at this point and either fake or true yes you messed up big time. Go read a faq on how to present cases as a finder.

[Kessobahn]

point is, call the damn bluff on fener if you think he's wrong. if mockra turns up innocent, it sucks for him but we will have confirmed fener's lying and have every reason to vote him now.

[Tennes]

Fener, on Apr 26 2009, 08:51 PM, said:

***Healer, heal me***

Ruse, on Apr 27 2009, 02:48 AM, said:

Here comes the finder reveal? Paired with Shadow?

Bingo!

OK. So at 9 votes on me I have no choice any more. And i'm really hoping we do have a healer.

I'm a finder. And Mockra is guilty.

Gamelon was investigated on night 1, and came up innocent. Mockra night 2.

Why do you think i've been so focused on Mockra today? I was hoping a few people would jump on and PI themselves, but only Kesso has done that. Shadow looks pretty innocent too, due to pointing out the possible symp clue.

Apart from that, i've really messed today up. Most of you look guilty, to be honest. I guess I should work on my style, but a lot of the criticism of me has to be coming from evil players anyway.

So let me get this straight you are revealing as a finder when you are at l-2 and you are saying that Gamelon is RI. You do see why it might be a tad hard to believe you right. Not only are you at l-2 but you are saying that Gamelon is a RI. I am sure that Gamelon will agree. I find it very convenient. I am not saying that your not telling the truth but as the evidence piles up against you of course your going to come out and say that your a finder. It is what scum or a symp would do. If you are really a finder you have made a mess of things. Such a total and absolute mess all game long that I find it very hard to believe you. You have the most important inno role and this is how you have played it. I agree with ruse go and look up the how to play a finder in the faqs.

He is at l-2 Omtose

A total mess Fener complete total mess. I don't even know what to do. To me Mockra has been playing like a noob, and Fener has been playing like a symp not a finder.

[Tennes]

Kessobahn, on Apr 26 2009, 09:06 PM, said:

point is, call the damn bluff on fener if you think he's wrong. if mockra turns up innocent, it sucks for him but we will have confirmed fener's lying and have every reason to vote him now.

Mean while he will have another night to kill and lock up our healer. Not to mention if he is a symp then he might be trying to go out in a blaze of glory by getting the real finder to counter reveal. This is a serious cluster fuck.

[Mockra]

Outstanding, Fener. For some reason, you harp on me all of day one as a candidate. You vote for me. The only person, if I recall correctly. Then, you don't FIND for me on the first night? That makes a ton of sense.

Kessobahn is looking like a simp to Fener, who is a desperate scum.

[Mockra]

I, furthermore, really enjoy that he waited for someone to bring up the option of reveal finder. Then, he jumps all over it.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 11 hours and 30 minutes remaining

20 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

11 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

2 votes for Mockra: ( Kessobahn, Fener)
8 votes for Fener: ( Tennes, Meanas, Emurlahn, Mockra, Shadow, Ruse, Anomandaris, Ampelas)

Players not voted: Barghast, D'riss, Galain, Gamelon, Korlat, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Telas, Tellan

[Path-Shaper]

I'm going to bed, if you lynch before I get up, blah blah blah...night.

[Tennes]

Kessobahn, on Apr 26 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 27 2009, 02:34 AM, said:

Isn't it kind of pretentious to lynch one guy cause the other guy says so and if we are wrong then "oppsie" we'll just lynch the other guy. I made a case on you. Are you comfortable with me saying guys I know it's Kessobahn and if I'm wrong well you can just lynch me tomorrow? It's a good way to narrow things down, but it really sucks for you doesn't it?

You're right. It's extremely pretentious. I'd be miffed as all hell if I was innocent and you were saying "Vote Kesso and if he's inno vote me next' but if you were absolutely convinced i was guilty i would understand your call.

fener has revealed finder and he did so right after your 'incoming finder reveal' because let's face it, that's a common tactic to use when almost voted out...

but fener has been far too aggressive on mockra today to consider this as some kind of last-second attempt to not die.

if you lynch fener today, you will not learn anything about him because i am 100% convinced he is not going to turn up guilty

How are you 100% convinced. This is Mafia I wouldn't be 100% convinced my own mother wasn't out to get me in a game of mafia. She probably would be knowing her.

[Omtose]

Well it's also nice that he makes this giant mess from the beginning, makes it larger with that shitty possible reveal and then is off to bed. Damn it! We really need to discuss this before we rush to vote anyone, because I still don't trust Fener. If he's not a noob (and it doesn't seem like he is) then there is really no excuse for this. I also note that he says alot of us are looking guilty for voting against him and that alot of us are evil. Well if you know people are evil say someting specific because otherwise you are sowing more confusion, which would in fact be really convenient if you were scum!

[Tennes]

Omtose, on Apr 26 2009, 09:18 PM, said:

Well it's also nice that he makes this giant mess from the beginning, makes it larger with that shitty possible reveal and then is off to bed. Damn it! We really need to discuss this before we rush to vote anyone, because I still don't trust Fener. If he's not a noob (and it doesn't seem like he is) then there is really no excuse for this. I also note that he says alot of us are looking guilty for voting against him and that alot of us are evil. Well if you know people are evil say someting specific because otherwise you are sowing more confusion, which would in fact be really convenient if you were scum!

I agree and I think that he is probably a symp. It is just bad bad play for a finder. I am off to dinner and bed myself. I am not going to move my vote. I thought that he was playing like a symp earlier and his last minute reveal has done nothing to convince me otherwise.

Night all

[Kessobahn]

Mockra, on Apr 27 2009, 03:12 AM, said:

Outstanding, Fener. For some reason, you harp on me all of day one as a candidate. You vote for me. The only person, if I recall correctly. Then, you don't FIND for me on the first night? That makes a ton of sense.

Kessobahn is looking like a simp to Fener, who is a desperate scum.

congrats on your failed meta? why on EARTH would i so fervently defend fener if he's the master and i'm his symp? it will get both of us lynched in short order

a real symp might interject early, but once you are at 5-6 votes the symp would be all over the train. i didn't even get here until several votes were on fener.

This post has been edited by Kessobahn: 27 April 2009 - 02:29 AM