[Cause]

QuickTidal, on 17 August 2026 - 12:27 PM, said:

Cause, on 11 August 2026 - 07:23 PM, said:

Spiderman Brand new Day was a fun movie. I enjoyed it.

The ending though:

Spoiler

felt Surreal. I actually wondered if a dying spiderman was having a dream sequence or if Jean was maybe trying to give him an ideal vision as he died.

He never dies. She breathes for him the first time sitting beside him in the building where he fell. They make a point to show her doing it.


The punisher gets to a dying spiderman who its established was a mile away, gets him to a hospital, and strolls in without a care.

Jean breathes for him there whole time, so the time it takes Frank to get to him doesn't matter.


He doesnt wear a mask, is presumably a highly wanted and dangerous fugitive.

Who? Frank? Yes technically he is, BUT the context is important here. Detective DeWolff is on Spider-man's side throughout the film, and as such Frank's connection to Spider-Man and him being the one who brought him in would stay DeWolff's (and therefore the department's) hand on apprehending him. There is also the fact that Wilson Fisk's Anti-vigilante task force (who are mainly the ones who wanted Frank) has been disbanded as of the end of DD:BA Season 2 and Fisk stepped down as Mayor. So whoever is in charge of NYC is not longer really as interested in Frank. But mostly, it's DeWolff's influence that would keep the law at bay...the Hospital staff don't care, they are interested in saving Peter's life not Frank Castle.


Then a period of time that's hard to establish passes, enough time for a crowd to gather and for spideys room to get filled with flowers and cards. Punisher apparently made sure no one snuck a look at Spideys secret identity and he is snoozing on the couch next to spideys bed in the hospital. So do they not know he is the punisher or is the whole Hopsital agreeing to not just call the cops?

No one in the hospital would know who Frank was. His Punisher identity is not a wide open thing...only the Anti-vigilante task force cared, and they are disbanded. The Regular cops have not put up his face on TV or the papers. There is also a deleted scene with Claire Temple (the Night Nurse from DD) showing her making sure they worked around his mask...and HIPPAA laws still exist in the MCU I think.

Also how did the punisher shoot into a secure room without windows?

Huh? Jean Grey telekinetically blew everything out in the previous scenes. The whole side of the building is missing in the entire scene while she and Peter are in his head. Frank just shoots through the hole.

I got you.

See red answers.

Spoiler

HIPA laws sure but gunshots are also a mandatory report.

I’m not familiar with the daredevil tv series stuff. Still the punisher is a mass murderer even if he murders criminals. Im sure the regular cops are still interested. I also think given spider man, jean grey, the hulk and damage controls involvement ie the whole movie the fbi, cia, shield, sword or whatever else goes on the mcu would show up.

I mean we can hand wave away anything if we want to, the man has the powers of a spider. I’m not gonna get too hung up on this but the ending had a very strange surreal feeling for me. It just did.

[QuickTidal]

I get you, I just felt the movie explained it enough...considering movie-logic to boot. I think DeWolff being a police detective completely on Peter's side is a big part of that ending but YMMV.

[Tsundoku]

From Laika Studios (Coraline, ParaNorman, Kubo and the two strings):



https://www.laika.com/our-films/

In development:
"LAIKA’s President and CEO Travis Knight (Kubo and the Two Strings, Bumblebee) will direct the stop-motion adaptation of the international bestselling fantasy novel Piranesi by Susanna Clarke, with a screenplay by renowned screenwriter Dave Kajganich (Bones and All, Suspiria). With over four million copies sold and from the New York Times bestselling author of Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell, Piranesi is an intoxicating, hypnotic novel set in a dreamlike alternative reality."

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 21 August 2026 - 08:15 AM

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

Well, shit! Guess I have to read Piranesi now — it's been sitting on my shelf, unread, for far too long.

[QuickTidal]

So I saw this trailer in front of THE ODYSSEY and I thought, MAN this looks really good! Plus Andrew Garfield is always amazing. So I was already excited to see it....

But now I've found out that it's actually a Robin Hood origin story that was originally titled THE RISE OF ROBIN HOOD?

I'm even more in now. I like Robin Hood stories as much as I like Arthur stories

[polishgenius]

I like Robin Hood stories but I think linking his legend to a real historical person and series of events that definitely had nothing to do with Robin Hood and the rise of that legend is a weird choice.

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 02:39 PM, said:

I like Robin Hood stories but I think linking his legend to a real historical person and series of events that definitely had nothing to do with Robin Hood and the rise of that legend is a weird choice.

Except that's not true.

The Peasants Revolt (Wat Tyler's rebellion) of 1381 (thus after the Black Death and DURING the Hundred Years War) apparently DID originally inspire the Robin Hood legend...and it wasn't until said legend was rewritten in 1521 that the story was pushed back to take place in 1190's and involve the Third Crusade, Richard the Lionheart, Prince John, ect. to be more "romantic"

EDIT: I spoke to a historian buddy about it yesterday.

#TheMoreYouKnow

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 27 August 2026 - 02:47 PM

[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 27 August 2026 - 02:46 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 02:39 PM, said:

I like Robin Hood stories but I think linking his legend to a real historical person and series of events that definitely had nothing to do with Robin Hood and the rise of that legend is a weird choice.

Except that's not true.

The Peasants Revolt (Wat Tyler's rebellion) of 1381 (thus after the Black Death and DURING the Hundred Years War) apparently DID originally inspire the Robin Hood legend...and it wasn't until said legend was rewritten in 1521 that the story was pushed back to take place in 1190's and involve the Third Crusade, Richard the Lionheart, Prince John, ect. to be more "romantic"

EDIT: I spoke to a historian buddy about it yesterday.

#TheMoreYouKnow

I can't really speak to what sources your friend has and I'm not a historian, but while his first known appearances being in the 1300s and it only being later pushed back is a known thing, I've never ever heard his origins linked to Wat Tyler- and a quick scan over wikipedia now tells me that the earliest known mentions of him- in passing but in a manner that says it was already a known story orally then- predates the Peasants Revolt.

I suppose it's plausible that at some point or another some details from that did get added to the legend, but nothing specific about Tyler and the revolt lines up with the tropes of Robin Hood, except that resistance to authority and societal injustice is involved.

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 04:20 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 27 August 2026 - 02:46 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 02:39 PM, said:

I like Robin Hood stories but I think linking his legend to a real historical person and series of events that definitely had nothing to do with Robin Hood and the rise of that legend is a weird choice.

Except that's not true.

The Peasants Revolt (Wat Tyler's rebellion) of 1381 (thus after the Black Death and DURING the Hundred Years War) apparently DID originally inspire the Robin Hood legend...and it wasn't until said legend was rewritten in 1521 that the story was pushed back to take place in 1190's and involve the Third Crusade, Richard the Lionheart, Prince John, ect. to be more "romantic"

EDIT: I spoke to a historian buddy about it yesterday.

#TheMoreYouKnow

I can't really speak to what sources your friend has and I'm not a historian, but while his first known appearances being in the 1300s and it only being later pushed back is a known thing, I've never ever heard his origins linked to Wat Tyler- and a quick scan over wikipedia now tells me that the earliest known mentions of him- in passing but in a manner that says it was already a known story orally then- predates the Peasants Revolt.

I suppose it's plausible that at some point or another some details from that did get added to the legend, but nothing specific about Tyler and the revolt lines up with the tropes of Robin Hood, except that resistance to authority and societal injustice is involved.

I actually think it makes vastly more sense as an origin: Post-Black Plague trauma, and levies against the peasants for the Hundred Years War (they didn't ask for) by the king would be a much better push for someone to organize and rebel against the nobility/king than a noble coming back from the Crusades had his land grabbed by the Prince and Sheriff...so it works for me.

[Macros]

But is anyone's heart cut out with a spoon?

[QuickTidal]

Macros, on 27 August 2026 - 04:57 PM, said:

But is anyone's heart cut out with a spoon?

why a spoon?

[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 27 August 2026 - 04:36 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 04:20 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 27 August 2026 - 02:46 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 02:39 PM, said:

I like Robin Hood stories but I think linking his legend to a real historical person and series of events that definitely had nothing to do with Robin Hood and the rise of that legend is a weird choice.

Except that's not true.

The Peasants Revolt (Wat Tyler's rebellion) of 1381 (thus after the Black Death and DURING the Hundred Years War) apparently DID originally inspire the Robin Hood legend...and it wasn't until said legend was rewritten in 1521 that the story was pushed back to take place in 1190's and involve the Third Crusade, Richard the Lionheart, Prince John, ect. to be more "romantic"

EDIT: I spoke to a historian buddy about it yesterday.

#TheMoreYouKnow

I can't really speak to what sources your friend has and I'm not a historian, but while his first known appearances being in the 1300s and it only being later pushed back is a known thing, I've never ever heard his origins linked to Wat Tyler- and a quick scan over wikipedia now tells me that the earliest known mentions of him- in passing but in a manner that says it was already a known story orally then- predates the Peasants Revolt.

I suppose it's plausible that at some point or another some details from that did get added to the legend, but nothing specific about Tyler and the revolt lines up with the tropes of Robin Hood, except that resistance to authority and societal injustice is involved.

I actually think it makes vastly more sense as an origin: Post-Black Plague trauma, and levies against the peasants for the Hundred Years War (they didn't ask for) by the king would be a much better push for someone to organize and rebel against the nobility/king than a noble coming back from the Crusades had his land grabbed by the Prince and Sheriff...so it works for me.

I don't mind it at all as an origin story and setting for Robin Hood. I'm just not sure about making him into Wat Tyler, specifically.

[Tsundoku]

QuickTidal, on 27 August 2026 - 05:22 PM, said:

Macros, on 27 August 2026 - 04:57 PM, said:

But is anyone's heart cut out with a spoon?

why a spoon?

BECAUSE IT HURTS MORE!

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 06:25 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 27 August 2026 - 04:36 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 04:20 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 27 August 2026 - 02:46 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 27 August 2026 - 02:39 PM, said:

I like Robin Hood stories but I think linking his legend to a real historical person and series of events that definitely had nothing to do with Robin Hood and the rise of that legend is a weird choice.

Except that's not true.

The Peasants Revolt (Wat Tyler's rebellion) of 1381 (thus after the Black Death and DURING the Hundred Years War) apparently DID originally inspire the Robin Hood legend...and it wasn't until said legend was rewritten in 1521 that the story was pushed back to take place in 1190's and involve the Third Crusade, Richard the Lionheart, Prince John, ect. to be more "romantic"

EDIT: I spoke to a historian buddy about it yesterday.

#TheMoreYouKnow

I can't really speak to what sources your friend has and I'm not a historian, but while his first known appearances being in the 1300s and it only being later pushed back is a known thing, I've never ever heard his origins linked to Wat Tyler- and a quick scan over wikipedia now tells me that the earliest known mentions of him- in passing but in a manner that says it was already a known story orally then- predates the Peasants Revolt.

I suppose it's plausible that at some point or another some details from that did get added to the legend, but nothing specific about Tyler and the revolt lines up with the tropes of Robin Hood, except that resistance to authority and societal injustice is involved.

I actually think it makes vastly more sense as an origin: Post-Black Plague trauma, and levies against the peasants for the Hundred Years War (they didn't ask for) by the king would be a much better push for someone to organize and rebel against the nobility/king than a noble coming back from the Crusades had his land grabbed by the Prince and Sheriff...so it works for me.

I don't mind it at all as an origin story and setting for Robin Hood. I'm just not sure about making him into Wat Tyler, specifically.

He’s not.

Tyler is being played by Comso Jarvis.

[polishgenius]

Fair enough.

I guess I just assumed from the description of 'Garfield is the leader of the rebellion' that he was, you know, the leader of the rebellion, but that's marketing for you. If he's not playing Tyler that makes the project a lot more palatable.