QuickTidal, on 27 April 2014 - 02:26 AM, said:
Silencer, on 27 April 2014 - 02:07 AM, said:
A Demon Llama!, on 26 April 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:
I just saw "Dracula 3000" on netflix. It is probably the worst movie I have ever seen. I try to recommend anyone to watch it just so I can have the peace of mind that I was not the only person to have wasted and hour and a half of my life on that.
Watch it now.
Is that...is that the one in space? Because I think I watched that aaaaaaaaaaages ago. XD
Apt Hoc, on 26 April 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:
Just watched Man of Steel. Loved it. Pretty much the perfect superman movie.
I am sure that die hard Superman fans would object to some of the liberties they take with the lore but as an on screen story I think it was awesome.
Perfect mix between the Batman movies "understated" approach to the superhero universe and the massive collateral damage a battle between superhumans would cause.
Oh, you mean the collateral damage which was completely ignored and had no impact on anyone? (Because, hooray for us, the Daily Planet guys survived, so all good?) Because that really needed to be more...you know...important, for it to have any impact on the audience/bearing on the story.
In fact, I think there's quite a bit of online commentary about how that mostly-destroyed-city just gets glossed over in favour of the fact that the three people whose faces we knew, somehow survived. And that no civilians actually got personally hit in the face by said superhumans. Somehow.
XD
Collateral damage and superhero movie/franchise...these go hand in hand.
Cities get routinely destroyed in ALL kinds of comics, and the focused attack in MoS is FAR less city-annhilating than the Attack of New York in AVENGERS...but it's funny you don't hear people complaining about that.
Sorry Silencer, expecting collateral damage to matter in a superhero piece like this is silly. The source material largely ignores it, and so I see nothing wrong with it happening in the movie verison.
Oh, I have a similar issue with collateral damage in *most* movies, superhero or otherwise.
It's just that Avengers is clearly on the lighter side of the new Superhero movie divide - whereas Man of Steel often gets compared to the Batman movies, as being a bit darker/more gritty and "realistic".
The difference being, new Batman didn't quite have city-wide catastrophes, and when it did have serious effects on the population, we got to see at least some of those consequences. Through the lens of named characters, sure, but the tens of thousands of dead people in MoS were...ignored. The only people who mattered at all were the ones we knew (even barely, through the Daily Planet crew). Every other death wasn't even referenced. In Batman you *saw* people being affected by the mind-bending gas. You *saw* people being evacuated from hospitals and dealing with the threat of the Joker. You *saw* people living in fear and hiding in their homes under Bane's lockdown.
That wasn't so much there in MoS. Yes, it wasn't there in Avengers either, but that entire continuity isn't exactly portraying itself as "more serious". To an extent, it's apples and oranges - yes, they're both superhero movies, but they're going at it from a different direction, so they don't get held to the exact same standards.
(Think of the part in the second G.I. Joe movie, where an entire city gets wiped out. That's pretty much ignored. That's what I'm talking about here - MASSIVE scale destruction which is glossed over. Then people go on about how the city-wide destruction was great because it was THERE in MoS...sure...but honestly, those were buildings. No PEOPLE died. At least, not that we're meant to realise/feel anything for. It was bloodless carnage. In reality, so many people died in that movie, Superman should have been paying off the debt for millennia. (Sure, it wasn't "his fault" any more than New York was the Avengers fault - but neither film actually acknowledges the loss of LIFE inherent in all that city-wide destruction, which is kinda disconcerting, even for a Superhero movie...but *especially* for ones which are attempting to play up the "darker and edgier" angle.)