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Whoa! There is going to be a Ready Player One movie and Steven Spielberg is on board? How is this the first time I heard of this!? I loved the book!
Someone please make this its own thread, like pronto! Please!?
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Posted 23 July 2017 - 03:37 AM
You need to get over this "thread making" anxiety and make your own threads, Kazooie. I believe in you. I know you can do it.
It looks like a great film. I just read Ready Player one a month or two ago, so the story is fresh in my mind. Only thing I didn't like is the casting. At the start of the book the character is supposed to be a fat kid, he loses weight later on so as to not die of obesity when the Egg Hunt really kicks off. But of course, this is Hollywood, can't cast ugly or fat people for starring roles.
The trailer park towers in the slum are also made far too nice and everything is too bright. In the story, people are basically living in mobile homes stacked on top of each other in a riggity fashion, packed like sardines. One of the fears of the residents is that one tower falls over and knocks a dozen other towers down like dominos.
But I guess you can hand wave these kinds of quibbles. It looks like Spielberg is focusing on making a world that is extremely pretty and fun to experience. Just seems like a shame, since the real world is meant to be the stark contrast to the freedom the characters experience in the Oasis.
It looks like a great film. I just read Ready Player one a month or two ago, so the story is fresh in my mind. Only thing I didn't like is the casting. At the start of the book the character is supposed to be a fat kid, he loses weight later on so as to not die of obesity when the Egg Hunt really kicks off. But of course, this is Hollywood, can't cast ugly or fat people for starring roles.
The trailer park towers in the slum are also made far too nice and everything is too bright. In the story, people are basically living in mobile homes stacked on top of each other in a riggity fashion, packed like sardines. One of the fears of the residents is that one tower falls over and knocks a dozen other towers down like dominos.
But I guess you can hand wave these kinds of quibbles. It looks like Spielberg is focusing on making a world that is extremely pretty and fun to experience. Just seems like a shame, since the real world is meant to be the stark contrast to the freedom the characters experience in the Oasis.
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Posted 24 July 2017 - 01:13 PM
Saw VALERIAN AND THE CITY OF A THOUSAND PLANETS...
So I know they talked about how this movie would be THE FIFTH ELEMENT on steroids, and it kind of is.
It’s mostly entertaining…but here’s a couple of things/issues.
I THINK Luc Besson writes his scripts in French and some of the dialogue gets really lost in translation, and there are multiple scenes in which the dialogue lands with DECIDED clunks. I feel like the same is likely true of THE FIFTH ELEMENT, but the actors involved in that film (Willis, Jovovich, Oldman ect.) were able to elevate it out of the hokeyness. The same is not true here, as neither Dane Dehaan nor Cara Delevingne can push that dialogue above what it was translated as. And I’ll go one better…Cara’s acting is better than Dehaan by a country mile. She’s a middling actress who makes the most of Laureline’s part and ends up MOSTLY being able to make her dialogue work. Dehaan has no such skills and most of his stuff (ESPECIALLY the supposedly heartfelt stuff) comes across as amateurish at BEST. His chemistry with her is nearly non-existent (her’s with him is fine).
Rhianna’s given a meatier role than I thought, and she does an admirable job at it. I was expecting to think she was a stunt casting, but for her part she worked well and I found her acting to be some of the most likeable in the film.
Clive Owen is….ridiculous. And not in a “Gary Oldman as Zorg” fun as hell ridiculous. He’s bad in this. In fact, he’s so bad that he’s repeatedly out-acted by a nobody method actor Brit who plays an underling commander.
The score is only good when it’s utilizing existing songs, or a few of the original songs by some girl named Alexiana…all the actual score pieces are terribly forgettable. Which saddens me because I had expected Besson to use Eric Serra again…but instead he went with Alexandre Desplat…who while serviceable, is rarely memorable. Which is sad because Eric Serra’s 5th element score is SO iconic and fit so well with the world.
Also, you can FULLY tell that Besson was influenced by AVATAR (Cameron had him visit the set of that film way back when) in this as he's crafted a lot of the same plot beats. Not to the films detriment mind you, but still you can tell.
It's odd that this isn't a Gaumont production....and it's got about 5 or 6 Chinese companies ponying up the dough. So I think even though this kind of bombed...he might still be able to make the second one (which he's already written). I feel bad that Dehaan feels so miscast here too as a result. If they made a second movie, I'd love to see Valerian himself recast as I feel Dehaan weighs this one down.
Anyways, a good movie that never really recaches the heights of THE FIFTH ELEMENT…which is sad because you’d figure that the phrase “on steroids” would mean better, and it simply never gets there. And it turns out that less is more applies instead.
So I know they talked about how this movie would be THE FIFTH ELEMENT on steroids, and it kind of is.
It’s mostly entertaining…but here’s a couple of things/issues.
I THINK Luc Besson writes his scripts in French and some of the dialogue gets really lost in translation, and there are multiple scenes in which the dialogue lands with DECIDED clunks. I feel like the same is likely true of THE FIFTH ELEMENT, but the actors involved in that film (Willis, Jovovich, Oldman ect.) were able to elevate it out of the hokeyness. The same is not true here, as neither Dane Dehaan nor Cara Delevingne can push that dialogue above what it was translated as. And I’ll go one better…Cara’s acting is better than Dehaan by a country mile. She’s a middling actress who makes the most of Laureline’s part and ends up MOSTLY being able to make her dialogue work. Dehaan has no such skills and most of his stuff (ESPECIALLY the supposedly heartfelt stuff) comes across as amateurish at BEST. His chemistry with her is nearly non-existent (her’s with him is fine).
Rhianna’s given a meatier role than I thought, and she does an admirable job at it. I was expecting to think she was a stunt casting, but for her part she worked well and I found her acting to be some of the most likeable in the film.
Clive Owen is….ridiculous. And not in a “Gary Oldman as Zorg” fun as hell ridiculous. He’s bad in this. In fact, he’s so bad that he’s repeatedly out-acted by a nobody method actor Brit who plays an underling commander.
The score is only good when it’s utilizing existing songs, or a few of the original songs by some girl named Alexiana…all the actual score pieces are terribly forgettable. Which saddens me because I had expected Besson to use Eric Serra again…but instead he went with Alexandre Desplat…who while serviceable, is rarely memorable. Which is sad because Eric Serra’s 5th element score is SO iconic and fit so well with the world.
Also, you can FULLY tell that Besson was influenced by AVATAR (Cameron had him visit the set of that film way back when) in this as he's crafted a lot of the same plot beats. Not to the films detriment mind you, but still you can tell.
It's odd that this isn't a Gaumont production....and it's got about 5 or 6 Chinese companies ponying up the dough. So I think even though this kind of bombed...he might still be able to make the second one (which he's already written). I feel bad that Dehaan feels so miscast here too as a result. If they made a second movie, I'd love to see Valerian himself recast as I feel Dehaan weighs this one down.
Anyways, a good movie that never really recaches the heights of THE FIFTH ELEMENT…which is sad because you’d figure that the phrase “on steroids” would mean better, and it simply never gets there. And it turns out that less is more applies instead.
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Posted 24 July 2017 - 02:02 PM
QuickTidal, on 24 July 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:
Saw VALERIAN AND THE CITY OF A THOUSAND PLANETS...
So I know they talked about how this movie would be THE FIFTH ELEMENT on steroids, and it kind of is.
It’s mostly entertaining…but here’s a couple of things/issues.
I THINK Luc Besson writes his scripts in French and some of the dialogue gets really lost in translation, and there are multiple scenes in which the dialogue lands with DECIDED clunks. I feel like the same is likely true of THE FIFTH ELEMENT, but the actors involved in that film (Willis, Jovovich, Oldman ect.) were able to elevate it out of the hokeyness. The same is not true here, as neither Dane Dehaan nor Cara Delevingne can push that dialogue above what it was translated as. And I’ll go one better…Cara’s acting is better than Dehaan by a country mile. She’s a middling actress who makes the most of Laureline’s part and ends up MOSTLY being able to make her dialogue work. Dehaan has no such skills and most of his stuff (ESPECIALLY the supposedly heartfelt stuff) comes across as amateurish at BEST. His chemistry with her is nearly non-existent (her’s with him is fine).
Rhianna’s given a meatier role than I thought, and she does an admirable job at it. I was expecting to think she was a stunt casting, but for her part she worked well and I found her acting to be some of the most likeable in the film.
Clive Owen is….ridiculous. And not in a “Gary Oldman as Zorg” fun as hell ridiculous. He’s bad in this. In fact, he’s so bad that he’s repeatedly out-acted by a nobody method actor Brit who plays an underling commander.
The score is only good when it’s utilizing existing songs, or a few of the original songs by some girl named Alexiana…all the actual score pieces are terribly forgettable. Which saddens me because I had expected Besson to use Eric Serra again…but instead he went with Alexandre Desplat…who while serviceable, is rarely memorable. Which is sad because Eric Serra’s 5th element score is SO iconic and fit so well with the world.
Also, you can FULLY tell that Besson was influenced by AVATAR (Cameron had him visit the set of that film way back when) in this as he's crafted a lot of the same plot beats. Not to the films detriment mind you, but still you can tell.
It's odd that this isn't a Gaumont production....and it's got about 5 or 6 Chinese companies ponying up the dough. So I think even though this kind of bombed...he might still be able to make the second one (which he's already written). I feel bad that Dehaan feels so miscast here too as a result. If they made a second movie, I'd love to see Valerian himself recast as I feel Dehaan weighs this one down.
Anyways, a good movie that never really recaches the heights of THE FIFTH ELEMENT…which is sad because you’d figure that the phrase “on steroids” would mean better, and it simply never gets there. And it turns out that less is more applies instead.
So I know they talked about how this movie would be THE FIFTH ELEMENT on steroids, and it kind of is.
It’s mostly entertaining…but here’s a couple of things/issues.
I THINK Luc Besson writes his scripts in French and some of the dialogue gets really lost in translation, and there are multiple scenes in which the dialogue lands with DECIDED clunks. I feel like the same is likely true of THE FIFTH ELEMENT, but the actors involved in that film (Willis, Jovovich, Oldman ect.) were able to elevate it out of the hokeyness. The same is not true here, as neither Dane Dehaan nor Cara Delevingne can push that dialogue above what it was translated as. And I’ll go one better…Cara’s acting is better than Dehaan by a country mile. She’s a middling actress who makes the most of Laureline’s part and ends up MOSTLY being able to make her dialogue work. Dehaan has no such skills and most of his stuff (ESPECIALLY the supposedly heartfelt stuff) comes across as amateurish at BEST. His chemistry with her is nearly non-existent (her’s with him is fine).
Rhianna’s given a meatier role than I thought, and she does an admirable job at it. I was expecting to think she was a stunt casting, but for her part she worked well and I found her acting to be some of the most likeable in the film.
Clive Owen is….ridiculous. And not in a “Gary Oldman as Zorg” fun as hell ridiculous. He’s bad in this. In fact, he’s so bad that he’s repeatedly out-acted by a nobody method actor Brit who plays an underling commander.
The score is only good when it’s utilizing existing songs, or a few of the original songs by some girl named Alexiana…all the actual score pieces are terribly forgettable. Which saddens me because I had expected Besson to use Eric Serra again…but instead he went with Alexandre Desplat…who while serviceable, is rarely memorable. Which is sad because Eric Serra’s 5th element score is SO iconic and fit so well with the world.
Also, you can FULLY tell that Besson was influenced by AVATAR (Cameron had him visit the set of that film way back when) in this as he's crafted a lot of the same plot beats. Not to the films detriment mind you, but still you can tell.
It's odd that this isn't a Gaumont production....and it's got about 5 or 6 Chinese companies ponying up the dough. So I think even though this kind of bombed...he might still be able to make the second one (which he's already written). I feel bad that Dehaan feels so miscast here too as a result. If they made a second movie, I'd love to see Valerian himself recast as I feel Dehaan weighs this one down.
Anyways, a good movie that never really recaches the heights of THE FIFTH ELEMENT…which is sad because you’d figure that the phrase “on steroids” would mean better, and it simply never gets there. And it turns out that less is more applies instead.
....called it? XD
I'm guessing if this was your reaction to it, QT, I'd be pretty much scathing in my comments. Which is good, because I have no plans to see it after I thought the trailer looked terrible. Sucks that it's a disappointment for you, though, I know you were pretty excited for a new, pumped up Fifth Element style film.
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Posted 24 July 2017 - 02:19 PM
Silencer, on 24 July 2017 - 02:02 PM, said:
I'm guessing if this was your reaction to it, QT, I'd be pretty much scathing in my comments. Which is good, because I have no plans to see it after I thought the trailer looked terrible. Sucks that it's a disappointment for you, though, I know you were pretty excited for a new, pumped up Fifth Element style film.
Yeah, you'd have hated this Sil. LOL
Yeah, I'm disappointed in it...but if I'm honest, I'm a little glad it didn't come close to trumping THE FIFTH ELEMENT for me? This means that 5th is safely ensconced in its hall of fame and hasn't been challenged by new special effects, and younger actors. Hell, the 1997 special effects are done in a MUCH more realistic way than they are applied here. The city shots in 5th look wonderful and kinetic without being too busy or overwrought....meanwhile the city shots in VALERIAN are an overly busy, 3D mess most of the time.
Also, I'm disappointed that Valerian keeps telling Laureline that he's going to take her to the best, most relaxing beach in the universe...and Besson never took the opportunity to make that pace be Fhloston Paradise.
The only 5th easter egg is in the poster where there is a bar named Korben's...and it's not in the movie.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 01:21 PM
Briar King, on 25 July 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:
Well that's a bummer. Guess I ll be waiting for DVD or hbo then.
Yeah, don't spend coin on it in the theatre. It would be a fun DVD or HBO watch though.
It's not awful. It's just not as good as it should/could be.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:14 PM
The VALERIAN trailers gave me a very JUPITER RISING vibe that was not encouraging at all.
FIFTH ELEMENT was a lightning-strikes-once film where all the exactly right things came together at the right time and somehow even Luke Perry couldn't fuck it up.
FIFTH ELEMENT was a lightning-strikes-once film where all the exactly right things came together at the right time and somehow even Luke Perry couldn't fuck it up.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:19 PM
Abyss, on 25 July 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:
The VALERIAN trailers gave me a very JUPITER RISING vibe that was not encouraging at all.
FIFTH ELEMENT was a lightning-strikes-once film where all the exactly right things came together at the right time and somehow even Luke Perry couldn't fuck it up.
FIFTH ELEMENT was a lightning-strikes-once film where all the exactly right things came together at the right time and somehow even Luke Perry couldn't fuck it up.
It's not JUPITER RISING bad...but it's nowhere near FIFTH ELEMENT calibre.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 08:53 PM
Bad Santa 2: Not necessary, not very good, occasionally funny quips, but missing most of what made the first one so good.
Boss Baby: If you heard this movie was insane, you heard right. This movie was conceived by a diseased mind. But was he genius? We'll never know.
The Shallows: Short, fairly tense, and seemingly unaware of how silly it is. It's a killer shark movie that plays like the protag is nobly battling a terminal disease or like The Perfect Storm. But it still mostly works for suspense, if you accept that the director doesn't quite realize he's making a B movie.
Boss Baby: If you heard this movie was insane, you heard right. This movie was conceived by a diseased mind. But was he genius? We'll never know.
The Shallows: Short, fairly tense, and seemingly unaware of how silly it is. It's a killer shark movie that plays like the protag is nobly battling a terminal disease or like The Perfect Storm. But it still mostly works for suspense, if you accept that the director doesn't quite realize he's making a B movie.
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Posted 26 July 2017 - 08:07 AM
Spiderman: Homecoming. Really enjoyed it.
15 awkward years out of 18.
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Posted 26 July 2017 - 05:11 PM
Roaring Currents, a Korean naval battle thing. Some pacing issues mean it's not as good as the director's previous movie Arrow/War of the Arrows (which I liked a lot and which anyone who likes Apocalypto-style films should search out) but while the first fifty minutes are basically setting up, once the battle gets going it's well worth the effort because it's a solid hour of awesome.
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 04:26 PM
Went to see Dunkirk last night.
Man was that film a let down.
All this hyping of masterpiece and the like had me me going in really pumped. So disappointing, watching the trailer would have sufficed. As a film attempting to portray what happened at Dunkirk it's absolute abysmal, as a film that is shot beautifully, yes it succeeds, but at the cost of any watchability.
Harry Styles was a surprising decent actor, so that's a plus. And my praise basically stops there.
They seemed to be trying to use the score and only the score as a means of building tension and setting the pace /tone, didn't work. I get what he was trying with the one week, one day, one hour thing. Didn't work.
Trying to properly show the desperate plight of the near half million men stranded and the sheer audacity of the rescue, didn't work.
Massively disappointed, did I say that already?
Man was that film a let down.
All this hyping of masterpiece and the like had me me going in really pumped. So disappointing, watching the trailer would have sufficed. As a film attempting to portray what happened at Dunkirk it's absolute abysmal, as a film that is shot beautifully, yes it succeeds, but at the cost of any watchability.
Harry Styles was a surprising decent actor, so that's a plus. And my praise basically stops there.
They seemed to be trying to use the score and only the score as a means of building tension and setting the pace /tone, didn't work. I get what he was trying with the one week, one day, one hour thing. Didn't work.
Trying to properly show the desperate plight of the near half million men stranded and the sheer audacity of the rescue, didn't work.
Massively disappointed, did I say that already?
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 04:46 PM
No idea
Eta
Wikipedia says yes
Eta
Wikipedia says yes
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:16 PM
Macros, on 31 July 2017 - 04:26 PM, said:
Went to see Dunkirk last night.
Man was that film a let down.
All this hyping of masterpiece and the like had me me going in really pumped. So disappointing, watching the trailer would have sufficed. As a film attempting to portray what happened at Dunkirk it's absolute abysmal, as a film that is shot beautifully, yes it succeeds, but at the cost of any watchability.
Harry Styles was a surprising decent actor, so that's a plus. And my praise basically stops there.
They seemed to be trying to use the score and only the score as a means of building tension and setting the pace /tone, didn't work. I get what he was trying with the one week, one day, one hour thing. Didn't work.
Trying to properly show the desperate plight of the near half million men stranded and the sheer audacity of the rescue, didn't work.
Massively disappointed, did I say that already?
Man was that film a let down.
All this hyping of masterpiece and the like had me me going in really pumped. So disappointing, watching the trailer would have sufficed. As a film attempting to portray what happened at Dunkirk it's absolute abysmal, as a film that is shot beautifully, yes it succeeds, but at the cost of any watchability.
Harry Styles was a surprising decent actor, so that's a plus. And my praise basically stops there.
They seemed to be trying to use the score and only the score as a means of building tension and setting the pace /tone, didn't work. I get what he was trying with the one week, one day, one hour thing. Didn't work.
Trying to properly show the desperate plight of the near half million men stranded and the sheer audacity of the rescue, didn't work.
Massively disappointed, did I say that already?
That's moderately frustrating, I've heard really positive things - and from several people I know, too, not just reviews.
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:24 PM
Reviews were all positive and all good reviews here and a few of my friends in the meat world said it was good.
Although the common consensus from the meat world reviews was, worth watching on the big screen, but they would be in no rush to revisit it. I assumed that's because it was long.
I don't think it actually was an overly long film but it felt like it was
Although the common consensus from the meat world reviews was, worth watching on the big screen, but they would be in no rush to revisit it. I assumed that's because it was long.
I don't think it actually was an overly long film but it felt like it was
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:40 PM
Macros, on 31 July 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:
No idea
Eta
Wikipedia says yes
Eta
Wikipedia says yes
Yeah, it's Zimmer.
And let's be clear, one of Nolans BIGGEST filming tics is to allow his score to build tension in his films. Sometimes this works well (TDK, or INCEPTION), and sometimes it fails so miserably that I question that such a great composer as Zimmer crafted it (INTERSTELLAR, and to an extent THE PRESTIGE).
So I feel that any score complaints in Nolan's movies have to fall at the feet of Nolan himself, and not his chosen composer who has to follow his stranger whims.
And after the abysmal score to INTERSTELLAR, I'm not surprised to learn that he score-tension thing didn't work in DUNKIRK.
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:07 PM
we were actually talking about this too, the meat world people and I, and for me Interstellar was less of a disappointment (bar that bullshit "love" ending) for me than Dunkirk because I went into Interstellar with zero expectations, so didn't really feel let down by it if you get me.
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