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42.5, mafia mini spoilers Mexican Stand-off

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 07:55 PM

Day 1, players alive (black), checked in (bolded)

Anomandaris, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Meanas, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes

Night actions night 1:

Kessobahn: kill Fener
Anomandaris: do nothing

Serc: (Anomandaris)
Meanas: Anomandaris (HP), Emurlahn (LP)
Tennes: Emur (HP), Fener (LP), then Serc (VLP).
Currently existing chains of effects:
Kessobahn -->

Fener survives, as the kill from Kesso could generate a stand-off. From here on, he can only produce one target for stand-off.

Day 2: players alive (black), checked in (bold)
Anomandaris, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, HP, Kessobahn, Meanas, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes

Night actions;

D'riss: kill Fener
Meanas: D'riss (HP), Fener (LP)
Emurlahn: Gamelon (HP), Tellan (LP)
Silanah: Fener (HP), Tellan (LP)
Fener: D'riss
Serc: Tellan


Chains: D'riss --> Meanas

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 08:20 PM

alts:

Gamelon - colt45
Silanah - winchester
Kessobahn - sioux
Tennes - vancleef
Serc - shootout
D'riss - johnringo
Meanas - okcorral
Tellan - wallach
Emurlahn - cacti
Rashan - eastwood
Anomandaris - docholiday
Fener - gringo
Hood's Path - deathridesahorse

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 08:29 PM

alt - password - role

Gamelon - colt45 - Emma Easton - the Hostage
Silanah - winchester - Bernie Stepps - posse, RI
Kessobahn - sioux - Brett Duchevski, posse, gunslinger
Tennes - vancleef - Benjamin Stuart, gang leader
Serc - shootout - Bert Hawkins, posse, sniper
D'riss - johnringo - Brad Lewton, gang, gunslinger
Meanas - okcorral - Barry Malloney, gang, RI
Tellan - wallach,- Beck Carran, posse, RI
Emurlahn - cacti, - Bill Anderson, posse, sheriff
Rashan - eastwood - Bob Evans, gang, knife thrower
Anomandaris - docholiday - Ben Morrows, posse, RI
Fener - gringo - Buck Chipper, gang, outlaw
Hood's Path - deathridesahorse, Ermenegildo Ernandez, Harmonica Hombre

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 08:36 PM

players:

1) Bent - Serc
2) Grief - Emurlahn
3) Malaese - Anomandaris
4) Kurt Montandon - Gamelon
5) Peanutbutta - Kessobahn
6) Vengeance - Meanas
7) Mentalist - D'riss
8) Sir Thursday - Fener
9) D'rek - Silanah
10) Masterblue - Tellan
11) alt146 - Tennes
12) Silencer - Rashan
13) Stalker- Hood's Path

and that results in:
Posse:
Silanah (D'rek)
Kessobahn (Peanutbutta)
Serc (Bent)
Tellan (Masterblue)
Emurlahn (Grief)
Anomandaris (Malaese)

Gang:
Meanas (Venge)
Tennes (alt146)
D'riss (Mentalist)
Rashan (Silencer)
Fener (STD)

Hostage:
Gamelon (Kurt)

Harmonica Hombre:
HP (Stalker)

I like it, there's a nice division.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 14 April 2009 - 08:42 PM

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 08:56 PM

I like it, this is gonna be fun. :p
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:03 PM

One role should be Morgan Kane!! It would be mean to leave the poor man out of it
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:04 PM

Roles:

Gamelon (Kurt Montandon):
You are Miss Emma Easton, the Hostage.

Win condition:
You win if you survive, and it doesn’t matter whether the gang or the posse emerges victorious from this fight.

Abilities:
You are screwed, as most hostages are. Sorry for that. Anyway:

You can vote for lynches, but cannot send in Mexican stand off actions.
Any action targeting the Gang Leader (apart from lynches) will kill you instead of him while he and you both live.
There is one exception: if the Sheriff targets the Gang Leader with a stand off action, he will kill the Gang Leader instead of you.
Tennes is the gang leader.
You can not reveal any of this information on thread.

Hood's Path (Stalker)
You are the Harmonica Hombre, a well known bounty hunter operating along the Mexican border. You are here for the bounty, but it seems the lawmen are going to spoil your chance at that. So, you plan to let bandits and posse thin each others ranks, then mop up the survivors, bury the posse and collect the bounty.
Currently, you are sitting on the veranda of the saloon, playing tunes on your harmonica, singing a song every now and then, fingering the gun hidden under your poncho. Each time you stop playing or singing, there is a chance that the lawmen and outlaws will start shooting one another.
When there are only as many of them left as there are bullets in your gun, you will shoot them all.
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Abilities:
You can vote in lynches, but your vote will not count.
You cannot trigger Mexican Standoffs

End the day: every day, at any time you like, but only once everyone has posted at the least once in the thread, you can send the mods a PM, asking them to end the day. At that time (or as soon as the mod reads it), all actions are resolved and a new day starts.
Stand up and shoot: Once per game, you can reveal your role and shoot someone. This will trigger Mexican stand offs.
If, after the resolution, this leaves you and only five or less people standing, you win the game immediately. If there’s more of them, you die and lose immediately.


Gang:

Benjamin Stuart (Tennes)
Gang Leader:
You can submit three instead of two targets for your stand off orders for as long as the hostage lives.
If someone shoots at you while the hostage is alive, the hostage is killed instead of you (except when the sheriff targets you, he won’t kill the hostage, but will kill you!).

Brad Lewton (D'riss)
Gunslinger:
You are young and have practiced a lot with your weapon, and thus, are eager to prove yourself in combat. Each night, you can kill another player as a night action instead of participating in a Mexican Standoff. Your kill will activate stand-offs.

Bob Evans (Rashan)
Knife Thrower:
You have practiced at the art of killing someone without shooting, and are a very competent knife thrower. Once per game, as a night action, you can kill one player of your choice. This action does not trigger Mexican stand-offs and is in addition to participating in Mexican Stand-offs.

Buck Chipper (Fener)
Outlaw:
You are a hard man, and have been wounded multiple times. The first time you get shot in a stand-off, you can get up again. Due to your wound however, you can from there on only submit one target a night for Mexican stand-offs.

Barry Malloney (Meanas)
You have no abilities, but you can participate in Mexican Stand-offs.

Posse:
Bill Anderson (Emurlahn)
Sheriff
You get one day vig, useable only when the hostage is dead. This kill does not trigger stand-offs.
If you shoot at the Gang Leader during a Mexican Stand-off while the hostage is alive, you kill the Leader instead of the hostage.

Bert Hawkins (Serc)
Sniper:
Your weapon of choice is a rifle with tailored sights. Not much good in switching targets fast, but very good for focused fire. You cannot participate in stand-offs, but each night, you can target 1 player. If he takes an action or has his Mexican Standoff activated, you kill him before he shoots (those who have you in their list, will then shoot at you).

Brett Duchevski (Kessobahn)
Gunslinger:
You are young and have practiced a lot with your weapon, and thus, are eager to prove yourself in combat. Each night, you can kill another player as a night action instead of participating in a Mexican Standoff. Your kill will activate stand-offs.

Bernie Stepps (Silanah)
You have no abilities, but you can participate in Mexican Stand-offs.

Beck Carran (Tellan)
You have no abilities, but you can participate in Mexican Stand-offs.

Ben Morrows (Anomandaris)
You have no abilities, but you can participate in Mexican Stand-offs.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 14 April 2009 - 09:18 PM

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:06 PM

View PostMorgoth, on Apr 14 2009, 11:03 PM, said:

One role should be Morgan Kane!! It would be mean to leave the poor man out of it

Doesn't start with a B, I'm afraid. I made quite an effort to let every gunman's name start with a B. that they now sound as 3rd rate porn stars was not a concern :p
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:06 PM

So I'm guessing we'll have to be careful with vote counts to avoid exposing stalker's path (lol) too early?
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:09 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 14 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on Apr 14 2009, 11:03 PM, said:

One role should be Morgan Kane!! It would be mean to leave the poor man out of it

Doesn't start with a B, I'm afraid. I made quite an effort to let every gunman's name start with a B. that they now sound as 3rd rate porn stars was not a concern :p


but.. but.. Morgan Kane is god! He was also created by perhaps the only norwegian western writer :p
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:09 PM

And what is a game without a stab at Morgy?

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Hiya Gem,

password is gloriousbreasts

You're kidding me, right? :p

blame Morgy, Sarah's away and he needs lurve :p

I can imagine. HAHAHA! :p

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:33 PM

STD:

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Buck Chipper (Fener)
Outlaw:
You are a hard man, and have been wounded multiple times. The first time you get shot in a stand-off, you can get up again. Due to your wound however, you can from there on only submit one target a night for Mexican stand-offs.

you are a member of the Gang


If I get targetted for a Kill, as opposed to being part of a standoff, am I protected from that the first time too?


Thanks,

Sir Thursday

If the kill is able to trigger a stand-off, yes.

- Tapper
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:33 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 14 2009, 10:09 PM, said:

And what is a game without a stab at Morgy?

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Hiya Gem,

password is gloriousbreasts

You're kidding me, right? :p

blame Morgy, Sarah's away and he needs lurve :p

I can imagine. HAHAHA! :p



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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:35 PM

View PostSixty, on Apr 14 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

So I'm guessing we'll have to be careful with vote counts to avoid exposing stalker's path (lol) too early?

Just add his vote, and count it as a vote... we only check if he's on the train if it makes it to the lynch count.
if he is on the train, there' s simply no lynch at 7 but at 8 on day 1, and so on :p

If he's not on a lynch, people will know as the lynch ends at the right number. If he's on it, they'll know too. It will be a process of deduction :p
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:35 PM

Okay sounds good.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:37 PM

Grief and me, pre-game when he read the rules:

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So, if I understand this correctly, certain players can kill, definetely.

Now, if one of these players kills, and someone has them as HP or LP they are then killed, then the person who kills them can be killed and so on and so forth.

Seems to me that 2 provisionals will make it very very fast. Cause the thing you've got isn't normal provisional, it essentially allows to target 2 people, cause if you've got LP the only case you'll fail, they're dead anyhow.

Can see this going either two ways.

1. Everyone being rather cautious, very few actions submitted, killers probably not submitting to stay alive.
2. Everyone dropping like flies.

I'm gonna guess at 1, but we'll see.

Your guess as to the general workings of it is correct... but you have to take in account how fast each team can win. I predict people WILL get nervous after 2 lynches already :p


After 2?

Considering how many people could die at night, and how quickly the harmonica man can win, everyone will be looking for him, like cult recruiter in a merc game or something. Hopefully he isn't found early, as in my experience that's when merc games get less exciting.

The other thing is, I would imagine he can kill, since he can't be in stand offs, but needs to get rid of so many people.

Oh, another question:

He can't participate in stand offs:

If he can kill someone, and does so, someone else has him HP, does he die? Cause if he's not in stand offs, i'm not sure he would?


Unless your PM says otherwise, all kill actions are susceptible to stand off actions.
As for who wins when... Posse can win with 10 people still alive, if the lynches/kills fall their way.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:38 PM

Also, while the Harmonica Hombre lives, he can call an end to day by PM to SH, or if we have a lynch, or if day times out at 24 hours, whatever comes first.
When the Harmonica Man is dead, day times out at 24 hours or if there is a lynch.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:40 PM

View PostSixty, on Apr 14 2009, 11:35 PM, said:

Okay sounds good.

Logistically, if there's a lynch day 1, he's either in the 8 on the train, or in the 6 not on it, depending on the length. He's going to be screwed by statistics pretty soon... he really needs killing at night to survive.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:44 PM

Kesso-Butta:

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Looks like I got a role that suits me... practiced (from tons of reading) and eager to prove something. My thanks to you :p

I do have two questions...

One, when we submit lynch votes, do we state the name of the player in the vote post, or are we voting anonymously?

Two, do we know who is in our faction? Since I'm in the posse, I should have 5 teammates, but you didn't let me know about them. (My guess is we are supposed to be blinded by the sand storm and thus we do NOT know our team mates by default, and thus have to be very careful how we shoot :p )
Thank you in advance.

YW, glad you like it :p

We submit votes on the game thread in the vote post.
Please make sure you bold your vote, and place it on a seperate line, like this:

Vote Kessobahn

To your second question: the sandstorm obscures everything, so yes, it will be guesswork entirely. You cannot reveal your faction openly, but you can bend the rules and make it known by quoting movies or try to code it, or whatever other hints you can think of, as long as they are more or less hidden to the general eye.

GL, and always feel free to ask for explanations :p
Also, we hope you'll send thoughts by PM to P-S, so that we can collect your thoughts for readback after the game :p

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 09:47 PM

STD, asking difficult stuff:

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Buck Chipper (Fener)
Outlaw:
You are a hard man, and have been wounded multiple times. The first time you get shot in a stand-off, you can get up again. Due to your wound however, you can from there on only submit one target a night for Mexican stand-offs.

you are a member of the Gang


If I get targetted for a Kill, as opposed to being part of a standoff, am I protected from that the first time too?


Thanks,

Sir Thursday

If the kill is able to trigger a stand-off, yes.

- Tapper


But if there's no standoff, it doesn't do anything?


Sir Thursday

If the kill targets you and it is able to potentially trigger a stand-off, regardless whether or not it does, you survive. Hypothetically, if a kill ability exists that says in the player's PM that it never triggers stand-offs, you would be a dead man.

Essentially, you are counted as killed (and your own stand off actions do not count as a result). At the end of all the action, regardless of how many people have shot you, you get up again.
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