[Morgoth]

dktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 08:51 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 01:13 AM, said:

So, I find Ment to be on the more suspicious part of the scale. DiBs is there too, but I can't as of yet put my finger on why so I'm waiting until I am more convinced it's a proper gut feeling and not all the garlic I put in my dinner.

well at least someone else is spotting my feeling s about dibs.

If i point at him he just jumps up and down and shouts OMGUS.

it works, though it shouldn't. DiBs has been strangely absent, or not as forward as he generally is. I'm not sure what to say about him though. It's hard to find anything of his to comment on, one way or another.

[dktorode]

As i said earlier, I find Sixty's reasoning for putting on the Vote on myself seriously scummy, It looks like he will take any lynch without even thinking first, especially now that i see he was in fact also clueless it makes it even worse. I singles me out for doing something he himself has done.
He looks like typical scum trying to get a lynch on anyone, problem for him is i think he never thought it through properly.

Since Sixty.
I also feel sixty has been somewhat non confrontational up till now and could be trying to stay under the radar.

So lets see shall we
Remove Vote
Vote Sixty

I still think there might be something there with regards to yellow, even more so now.
Ever since he has been my main focus i have been getting a few people who seem like they want me gone and are using rather dodgy reasons to make cases against me. Some could be pure stupidity but one could perhaps be because they want me to stop talking about yellow either by changing the subject to me, getting me lynched or even sending signals to there master who to NK perhaps??...just a theory mind you

[Morgoth]

Gavin, on Mar 25 2009, 09:41 AM, said:

Hmm so the case on Ment is he made a reduntant post that he didn't know about the symp stuff either?

Like the DKT case I find it a bit of a stretch to be honest. Only reason he'd do it if he wasn't geninue was because he's trying to make it like the killer is under pressure and he wants to show the killer is part of a larger group? Is that what your saying JA?

Anyway Sixty as well, DKT brought up a little stuff up thread and he's voting on DKT for a reading mistake.


Here's Sixty before yesterdays lynch scene:

Sixty said:

Is this still 12-hour nights? Since day was shortened, I'm hoping the same was done to nights...

Clearly not knowing if it was a 12 hour night or 0 hour night.

Here is JA's case on me posted 1 hour later.

Jumpster said:

Good boy Vengeance. Good boy

Well,

vote Gavin

For ending the day 5 hours short, when it was not guaranteed the guard and healer got their actions in. He says he didn't know, but I can't know for sure, and I can't find anything on thread where he commented on the nights.

And here is the next post after JA's case, from Sixty.

Sixty said:

(Jump Around @ Mar 24 2009, on 11:08 PM), said:

Actually, it's Gavin I meant to ask. Did you know?

Gavin said:

Nope not till I saw the second death in the scene. But after he said he changed to a 24 hour day I did wonder if he might change it.

I was under the impression from Path-Shaper's earlier quote (post 102) that he did both in the same post.

Really Sixty? So after seeing JA make a case on me, you back it up by implying I should have read about it in Path Shapers post and try and make me look scummy and also saying your read it.

Yet one hour earlier you yourself were asking the same question about it, and in fact were the one who got me wondering about it, after I saw your post.
Coupled with your scummy comment Morgoth pulled out about the CF where you said roughly, " oh innocent but they could still be a symp", and voting for DKT for not reading the thread.. when you in fact haven't read it either properly.

Vote Sixty

This seems more proper a case I think. I've been wondering about sixty since his symp comment and he never explained it to my satisfaction. The other disprecancies make it seem even more out of place. All that coupled with his general under the radar sort of behaviour makes him a better candidate than Ment I admitt. Even though ment tries to shrug of an argument against him that does hold some merrit, it's not enough I feel to convict him when better cases are to be found.

Remove vote
Sixty

Edit: double post with dk

edit 2: Urm, Gavin made the case, I vote for Sixty. Not the other way around

[Mentalist]

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 04:54 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

so, essentially, whenever I make a redundant post, JA's scumdar goes off like there's no tomorrow.

That's a pretty gross simplification, dont you think?

heh
JA seems to agree with me.

[Jump Around]

Did Morgoth mean to vote Sixty or Gavin?

edit: OK, I got confused there

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 25 March 2009 - 09:04 AM

[Mentalist]

cross-post
so, you look at Gavin's case on someone else, and you vote gavin?

care to explain why?

[dktorode]

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 10:57 AM, said:

dktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 08:51 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 01:13 AM, said:

So, I find Ment to be on the more suspicious part of the scale. DiBs is there too, but I can't as of yet put my finger on why so I'm waiting until I am more convinced it's a proper gut feeling and not all the garlic I put in my dinner.

well at least someone else is spotting my feeling s about dibs.

If i point at him he just jumps up and down and shouts OMGUS.

it works, though it shouldn't. DiBs has been strangely absent, or not as forward as he generally is. I'm not sure what to say about him though. It's hard to find anything of his to comment on, one way or another.

What gets me is he seems to be quite singular in his attacking...he seems to really want me gone and has blinkers on for anything else.
Now this isnt the dibs i know, he normally plays allot like myself and likes to poke more people.
Could be he is overly sure about me....i dunno.

[Jump Around]

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 04:54 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

so, essentially, whenever I make a redundant post, JA's scumdar goes off like there's no tomorrow.

That's a pretty gross simplification, dont you think?

heh
JA seems to agree with me.

Not really

[Morgoth]

dktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 09:58 AM, said:

I still think there might be something there with regards to yellow, even more so now.
Ever since he has been my main focus i have been getting a few people who seem like they want me gone and are using rather dodgy reasons to make cases against me. Some could be pure stupidity but one could perhaps be because they want me to stop talking about yellow either by changing the subject to me, getting me lynched or even sending signals to there master who to NK perhaps??...just a theory mind you

It's legitimate focusing on yellow. I don't think his no-spam attitude merits that much suspicion considering it's Yellow, but he's been a bit withdrawn and under the radar too. I think that in this Game the killer will be the more agressive player while the symp stays out of harms way to take over once the killer kicks the bucket.

[Morgoth]

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 10:03 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 04:54 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

so, essentially, whenever I make a redundant post, JA's scumdar goes off like there's no tomorrow.

That's a pretty gross simplification, dont you think?

heh
JA seems to agree with me.

that was not really the impression I got

[Mentalist]

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 05:07 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 10:03 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 04:54 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

so, essentially, whenever I make a redundant post, JA's scumdar goes off like there's no tomorrow.

That's a pretty gross simplification, dont you think?

heh
JA seems to agree with me.

that was not really the impression I got

Jump Around, on Mar 25 2009, 05:05 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 04:54 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

so, essentially, whenever I make a redundant post, JA's scumdar goes off like there's no tomorrow.

That's a pretty gross simplification, dont you think?

heh
JA seems to agree with me.

Not really

it would seem I've misread what Ja meant by a "martyr moment", then.

JA, could you please explain what you meant by that?

[Morgoth]

ah well, there's not that many hours left in the day I think, and I need to leave. So, cheerio.

I keep my vote on sixty as I think that's the best lynch

[Mentalist]

4.5 hours left or therabouts.

[Jump Around]

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

it would seem I've misread what Ja meant by a "martyr moment", then.

JA, could you please explain what you meant by that?

I meant it's possible it's another case of you "saying something for no reason I can see", but it doesn't mean I don't see it as being scummy and that I might be right.

It's like when you were a killer and dibs was your symp, I made a valid case on you which you dismissed as "being busy in real life". Yes, it could have been, and I acknowledged that, and removed my pressure like a moron.

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 25 March 2009 - 09:20 AM

[dktorode]

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

dktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 09:58 AM, said:

I still think there might be something there with regards to yellow, even more so now.
Ever since he has been my main focus i have been getting a few people who seem like they want me gone and are using rather dodgy reasons to make cases against me. Some could be pure stupidity but one could perhaps be because they want me to stop talking about yellow either by changing the subject to me, getting me lynched or even sending signals to there master who to NK perhaps??...just a theory mind you

It's legitimate focusing on yellow. I don't think his no-spam attitude merits that much suspicion considering it's Yellow, but he's been a bit withdrawn and under the radar too. I think that in this Game the killer will be the more agressive player while the symp stays out of harms way to take over once the killer kicks the bucket.

I know...Yellow reckons he normally plays like this, but i disagree.
He was not only being dismissive towards the spam, To me it also seemed that he was being cautious as well, thats the crux of what got my scum senses tingling.

[Mentalist]

Jump Around, on Mar 25 2009, 05:19 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 25 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

it would seem I've misread what Ja meant by a "martyr moment", then.

JA, could you please explain what you meant by that?

I meant it's possible it's another case of you "saying something for no reason I can see", but it doesn't mean I don't see it as being scummy and that I might be right.

It's like when you were a killer and dibs was your symp, I made a valid case on you which you dismissed as "being busy in real life". Yes, it could have been, and I acknowledged that, and removed my pressure like a moron.

ah
thank you for calrifying.

all I can say in return, it must be a very elaborate lie on my part then, since i've complained about it in at least 3 other threads here, as well as on Modcraft.

[drinksinbars]

dktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 09:04 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 10:57 AM, said:

dktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 08:51 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 25 2009, 01:13 AM, said:

So, I find Ment to be on the more suspicious part of the scale. DiBs is there too, but I can't as of yet put my finger on why so I'm waiting until I am more convinced it's a proper gut feeling and not all the garlic I put in my dinner.

well at least someone else is spotting my feeling s about dibs.

If i point at him he just jumps up and down and shouts OMGUS.

it works, though it shouldn't. DiBs has been strangely absent, or not as forward as he generally is. I'm not sure what to say about him though. It's hard to find anything of his to comment on, one way or another.

What gets me is he seems to be quite singular in his attacking...he seems to really want me gone and has blinkers on for anything else.
Now this isnt the dibs i know, he normally plays allot like myself and likes to poke more people.
Could be he is overly sure about me....i dunno.

this is handy, both points about me in one place. I havent been strangely absent i just dont tend to post much in the evenings at the moment, i read the thread sometimes and make comments and then i go and do things. The reasons for this are real life and not particularly relevant. I check on in the evenings mostly to diplome as i dont have time to read up pages of mafia stuff and prefer to have something to do in work.

As for being singular, truth is i am always pretty focused and well regarded in that respect as a dog with a bone, so implying i am usually more aggressive to lareg number of players isnt exactly true anymore, as i admit int he past i have been quite shouty, but my reasons for that in those games are different than my reasons in this one. To explain why i am playing as i am is simple, by focusing each day on specific players i remove the possibility of wifom in a nk and make myself unpalatable for a kill. If i focus on the killer i may drag the symp out and will reduce the chances of me being killed. in the past i purposefully targetted many players to cause tension and strife, but learned through some early lynches and bad judgement that it got me killed and cost the innos valuable days picking up the pieces.

You may wonder at why i go into so much detail, but i am such a cocky fucker i like to explain my tactics right out there in the open as a throwing down of the gauntlet if you will coupled with a chance to be a condascending shitebag. Twoo things wee irish enjoy more than anything else is acting superior and making boasts.

Yesterday i felt that obdi was being a bit of an ass to fufill his usual role of day1crazy. And it felt forced. there also seemed to be some collusion between him and veng, so they were my suspects.

obdi was inno, so veng goes ont he back burner, possibly fake symped obdi but i doubt it.

Today dk makes a few posts reference a line in ps opening post, yet conveniently misses the line before and points this out in no uncertain terms, and to me that feels forced. Coupled with this the suuspected symp kurt jumps in with a weak case that conveniently makes an attempt to exhonorate dk through a similar mistake but of the opposite degree.

At this point i would prefer to stop, but a role is a roll and it has icecream in it so why not.

Morgoth isnt acting weird, in fact he is being helpful and softly softly, if the norwegian, who has a usual talent for spotting me as scum really thought i was guilty he would be voting me. Therefore his talk of being suspicious is simply laying down groundwork for a future case and i find that scummy.

suspect list
1 - dk (fake info reveal to prove innocence through ignorance)
2 - kurt (tied to dk's)
3 - Morgoth (playing softly softly and not following through his suspicions with evidence or votes. )

also i notice my case on dk has been conveniently reduced from a deliberate attempt to appear inno into a case built upon a reading error, which was never the case. Main culprit of this :- morgoth.

[Mentalist]

see, here's the thing about altless games: they make "view user's posts" function much more difficult to use.

Anyhow, looking through Sixty's posts, there's not much that one can notice. Aside from the post that gavin spotted, there was also a bit right after CF where he tries to look at the people that started the Obdi train, but he quickly gives up on that.


The impression I get from Bubba is that of a genuinely busy player. or a total lurker.

Sixty on the othr hands, doesn't really lurk, but he tries to stay on everyone's good side.
The latter's more scummy than the former in my books.

therefore
vote Sixty

I've read the article and daresay I actually understood most of it.

but my brain's refusing to write right now.

i'll be afk for an hour or two, will then check in before going to class.

[Jump Around]

drinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 11:44 AM, said:

Twoo things wee irish enjoy more than anything else is acting superior and making boasts.

I love those wee Irishes.

[drinksinbars]

that was actually a reference to the expected leprechaun comment from morgo