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Mafia 41.5 CLUE Its not a game anymore

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 09:59 AM

How much time left, and are we any close to a lynch?

I've been focusing on pulling Ment's balls to see what would happen, but in no way is he the only one I'd be willing to lynch.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:01 AM

think its dk or sixty at the moment, and although sixty gives out some odd vibes i am much more inclined to dk, or morgo if his response is suitably fishy. got an sla meeting now :p back ina n hour or two depending on how much i get shouted at :p
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:04 AM

@Dibs

So you completely ignore the case on sixty?


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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:05 AM

I would also be willing to vote Sixty.

His comment about Obdigore being possibly a symp was odd, he put him at L-1 with tons of time left in the day (saying he was leaving until after end of day but staying around for quite a while)

Then there is his bizarre "confusion" about the mechanics that Gavin pointed out. I myself wondered if he knew about the 0 nights or not, being the one who booed the originally mentioned 12 hours nights.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:09 AM

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

think its dk or sixty at the moment, and although sixty gives out some odd vibes i am much more inclined to dk, or morgo if his response is suitably fishy. got an sla meeting now :p back ina n hour or two depending on how much i get shouted at :p



So for you its going to be gunning for me until i am dead?
Not going to look anywhere else heh?

You might say that you like to focus on one play NOW...but is that really a good strategy, what if you are wrong? What a waste of time and effort that would be!
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:17 AM

It's this post that gets me, I think Gavin already quoted it:

View PostSixty, on Mar 24 2009, 03:35 PM, said:

Is this still 12-hour nights? Since day was shortened, I'm hoping the same was done to nights...


How did he know the days were shortened if he hadn't read that PS post? This comes back to Ment's "I didn't know this" comment. Acting clueless instead of being assertive is common in killers IMO, and this one I don't get. He read half the post, then skipped the night part? When he was the one unhappy with how "long" they were originally?

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:28 AM

View PostJump Around, on Mar 25 2009, 12:17 PM, said:

It's this post that gets me, I think Gavin already quoted it:

View PostSixty, on Mar 24 2009, 03:35 PM, said:

Is this still 12-hour nights? Since day was shortened, I'm hoping the same was done to nights...


How did he know the days were shortened if he hadn't read that PS post? This comes back to Ment's "I didn't know this" comment. Acting clueless instead of being assertive is common in killers IMO, and this one I don't get. He read half the post, then skipped the night part? When he was the one unhappy with how "long" they were originally?



Whats worse is his reasoning behind voting for me is that i got the night times wrong.
If he did it himself then why would you then use it as a reason to place a vote on someone else.

Much like ment and kurts slip up, i did the same as them, so i find it plausable that they they could be telling the truth, how can I then use it as a basis for my vote on someone?

Makes no sense, unless you dont give a fuck and are looking for an easy lynch target, or even just a easy excuse to put a vote on someone.


edit - sentence structure all fucked up

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:30 AM

View Postdktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

think its dk or sixty at the moment, and although sixty gives out some odd vibes i am much more inclined to dk, or morgo if his response is suitably fishy. got an sla meeting now :p back ina n hour or two depending on how much i get shouted at :p



So for you its going to be gunning for me until i am dead?
Not going to look anywhere else heh?

You might say that you like to focus on one play NOW...but is that really a good strategy, what if you are wrong? What a waste of time and effort that would be!


I think you will find i have been using this strategy for more than a few games. Also it tends to work quite well as focusing on one person does not necessarily imply blinkers, you just build a case and possible outline around that suspicion and look for blips. Sixty is a viable lynch, as posted above, that i prefer you is my opinion and expressed as such. Why you are so worried by one player finding you suspicious is strange. Surely if you are innocent you have nothing to worry about.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:51 AM

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 12:30 PM, said:

I think you will find i have been using this strategy for more than a few games. Also it tends to work quite well as focusing on one person does not necessarily imply blinkers, you just build a case and possible outline around that suspicion and look for blips. Sixty is a viable lynch, as posted above, that i prefer you is my opinion and expressed as such. Why you are so worried by one player finding you suspicious is strange. Surely if you are innocent you have nothing to worry about.



You only started voicing other suspect after i brought your single minded attitude up.
You were very singular in your attacking me before i said as much. There was allot going on that you flat out ignored.
I dont agree with your strategy if you are innocent.
And I am voicing my opinion towards that strategy.
Yet if you are scum this strategy could hold true aswell, as you just coast along and point all ten fingers at lil' ol me and then you seem as if you are contributing a great deal when in fact you are not contributing anything at all.

The fact that it is focussed on myself has just brought this to my attention allot sooner than what it would have if you were focussing on some one else.
And saying things like "surely if you are innocent you have nothing to worry about " is such a bullshit statement.
As an innocent, if someone keeps attacking you over and over even if other things are going on that you would expect him to at least acknowledge yet is blatantly ignoring it should set off alarm bells....no?
Yet it all just gets written off as OMGUS.

Never mind you keep discrediting me, as an innocent i would like for people to listen to what i have to say and therefore would like my name not to be tainted by your lame cases based on things you "think" i "might" be doing.

Remember one thing, you might also be wrong...well i KNOW you are wrong, I did in fact read the PS post wrong. But you seem un willing to even consider factoring this in.
Kurt also messed up, sixty also didnt know what was going on at one stage, ment admitted to not knowing a mechanic and i fucked up. All of this and you STILL persist to gun for me...i find that strange. And i dont see how you could no understand my dismay at the way you have been playing.


anyways...im rambling...hopefully you get my point. If not then i know you are playing dumb.

edit - typo didnt becomes did in...my typing getting better though!!!

This post has been edited by dktorode: 25 March 2009 - 11:01 AM

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:03 AM

Because I'm not sure at the time I'll

remove vote
vote Sixty


24-hour days are mighty short, but we should still try to get lynches.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:05 AM

View Postdktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 10:51 AM, said:

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 12:30 PM, said:

I think you will find i have been using this strategy for more than a few games. Also it tends to work quite well as focusing on one person does not necessarily imply blinkers, you just build a case and possible outline around that suspicion and look for blips. Sixty is a viable lynch, as posted above, that i prefer you is my opinion and expressed as such. Why you are so worried by one player finding you suspicious is strange. Surely if you are innocent you have nothing to worry about.



You only started voicing other suspect after i brought your single minded attitude up.
You were very singular in your attacking me before i said as much. There was allot going on that you flat out ignored.
I dont agree with your strategy if you are innocent.
And I am voicing my opinion towards that strategy.
Yet if you are scum this strategy could hold true aswell, as you just coast along and point all ten fingers at lil' ol me and then you seem as if you are contributing a great deal when in fact you are not contributing anything at all.

The fact that it is focussed on myself has just brought this to my attention allot sooner than what it would have if you were focussing on some one else.
And saying things like "surely if you are innocent you have nothing to worry about " is such a bullshit statement.
As an innocent, if someone keeps attacking you over and over even if other things are going on that you would expect him to at least acknowledge yet is blatantly ignoring it should set off alarm bells....no?
Yet it all just gets written off as OMGUS.

Never mind you keep discrediting me, as an innocent i would like for people to listen to what i have to say and therefore would like my name not to be tainted by your lame cases based on things you "think" i "might" be doing.

Remember one thing, you might also be wrong...well i KNOW you are wrong, I didnt on fact read the PS post wrong. But you seem un willing to even consider factoring this in.
Kurt also messed up, sixty also didnt know what was going on at one stage, ment admitted to not knowing a mechanic and i fucked up. All of this and you STILL persist to gun for me...i find that strange. And i dont see how you could no understand my dismay at the way you have been playing.


anyways...im rambling...hopefully you get my point. If not then i know you are playing dumb.


Just because i dont post every supsicion on thread doesnt mean i dont have them, but naming every suspect just leaves you open to a nk which will provide no information to your team. yes people put stock in things being wifom but you cant always do that. voting and accusations are solid connections between players, i find you suspicious so until i have a more viable target it is you i will focus on. if you believe that makes me coasting fine, make a case and lay a vote.

I am not playing dumb, on the contrary i am feeling quite smart today and following through with the strategy i chose to use for this game because i feel t gives my team the best chance of winning. Regardless of your opinion by voting for you i learned a good few things about other players, and other players did too. There have been reactions to the case from different sides, and also players moving in other directions as well.

I have named three suspects with reasons, and also said i would vote sixty on the back of evidence put forward by jump around. You on the other hand are scrabbling for a defence not by answering the points put against you but rubbishing them with scorn. It isnt a very smart way of doing things as you are just making me more suspicious. The golden rule, dk, saying a case is rubbish doesnt prove it is rubbish.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:05 AM

how many votes is that?
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:06 AM

Hmmm....My money is on DKT as the killer, with Dibs as the back up symp at this point. This is Gut on both players, but it is jumping out strong to me, so I want to get it out on thread. And I'm more basing this on Dibs play at this point, than DKT.

I'm not going put a vote on Sixty because I don't see the scummy aspect yet, (But I don't know him yet ether)

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:10 AM

The case on DKT is rubbish. But rubbish cases end up getting people killed later in game. If I was a back up killer I would be pushing a rubbish case early on my master knowing later after he is lynched I have the best distancing defense there is.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:13 AM

View PostBubba, on Mar 25 2009, 11:10 AM, said:

The case on DKT is rubbish. But rubbish cases end up getting people killed later in game. If I was a back up killer I would be pushing a rubbish case early on my master knowing later after he is lynched I have the best distancing defense there is.


oh what glorious insight, you have seen through my dastardly scheme. how did i ever get myself into this situation...................

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.............. You are joking right?
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:24 AM

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 07:13 AM, said:

View PostBubba, on Mar 25 2009, 11:10 AM, said:

The case on DKT is rubbish. But rubbish cases end up getting people killed later in game. If I was a back up killer I would be pushing a rubbish case early on my master knowing later after he is lynched I have the best distancing defense there is.


oh what glorious insight, you have seen through my dastardly scheme. how did i ever get myself into this situation...................

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.............. You are joking right?

You are not playing your game.....Big long slobbering explanations from Dibs? No I don't think, so you are dirty.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:29 AM

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 01:05 PM, said:

Just because i dont post every supsicion on thread doesnt mean i dont have them, but naming every suspect just leaves you open to a nk which will provide no information to your team. yes people put stock in things being wifom but you cant always do that. voting and accusations are solid connections between players, i find you suspicious so until i have a more viable target it is you i will focus on. if you believe that makes me coasting fine, make a case and lay a vote.


Granted, but surely you must understand how i feel with your persistence...and why i cant understand how you dont even acknowledge anything else.
Theres a difference between not voicing your suspects and flat out ignoring things that are going on.
Another thing that buggs me about keeping everything to yourself is that not only are you are not putting any new idea's forward for the rest of the innos to think about, but what if you die?...then all your suspicions die with you?
But ok...thats the way you want to play then its cool, i now understand why you are doing what you are doing... even though i dont agree :p

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 01:05 PM, said:

I am not playing dumb, on the contrary i am feeling quite smart today and following through with the strategy i chose to use for this game because i feel t gives my team the best chance of winning. Regardless of your opinion by voting for you i learned a good few things about other players, and other players did too. There have been reactions to the case from different sides, and also players moving in other directions as well.


I never said you were playing dumb...just that if you started straw manning my last post again by seemingly (or purposefully) misinterpreting everything i am doing and saying then i would consider you acting dumb :p

You say you learned allot about other players?...thats cool, i just hope you share with us all at some point. Or all your "smartness" would be going to waist.

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 01:05 PM, said:

I have named three suspects with reasons, and also said i would vote sixty on the back of evidence put forward by jump around.


See here is where you start the "dumb acting", I just said that you only started naming other suspects once i brought up you being narrow minded, yet you ignore that and say "i have named three suspects" as if its NOW all right.

View Postdrinksinbars, on Mar 25 2009, 01:05 PM, said:

You on the other hand are scrabbling for a defence not by answering the points put against you but rubbishing them with scorn. It isnt a very smart way of doing things as you are just making me more suspicious. The golden rule, dk, saying a case is rubbish doesnt prove it is rubbish.


Here again....please refer to my previous post. I explain quite nicely why i am defending myself and why you seem to be thinking that i am "scrambling for a defense" which is most certainly not the case.
What points would you have me answer?
You are all up in my business because i got a game mechanic wrong, wich a few people have also done.
What do you wnat me to say Dibs?....hmmmm?
No saying a case is rubbish does not make it rubbish, but the opposite is true aswell.
Just saying your case is good does not make it so.

One of the main reasons i am suspect of you is that you refuse to even consider that i just read that one line wrong, even though 4 people have gotten things wrong...we can't all be faking it, if any.



edit - can becomes cant

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:32 AM

View PostBubba, on Mar 25 2009, 01:06 PM, said:

Hmmm....My money is on DKT as the killer, with Dibs as the back up symp at this point. This is Gut on both players, but it is jumping out strong to me, so I want to get it out on thread. And I'm more basing this on Dibs play at this point, than DKT.

I'm not going put a vote on Sixty because I don't see the scummy aspect yet, (But I don't know him yet ether)




This is quite a stretch considering the killer and symp cant talk.

Or am i wrong with this bloody mechanic as well :Surprise: :p
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:42 AM

i didnt say i never considered it, but that you referenced the following line a few times and soemhow missed the one before just strikes me as too much. the others, kurt was equally suspicious because he voted you with the same reason and it felt like distancing. ment said he missed it on first run through but didnt the second time which was why he voted kurt.

I didnt say my case was brillaint i just wanted some addressing of the point.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:45 AM

View Postdktorode, on Mar 25 2009, 07:32 AM, said:

View PostBubba, on Mar 25 2009, 01:06 PM, said:

Hmmm....My money is on DKT as the killer, with Dibs as the back up symp at this point. This is Gut on both players, but it is jumping out strong to me, so I want to get it out on thread. And I'm more basing this on Dibs play at this point, than DKT.

I'm not going put a vote on Sixty because I don't see the scummy aspect yet, (But I don't know him yet ether)




This is quite a stretch considering the killer and symp cant talk.

Or am i wrong with this bloody mechanic as well :Surprise: :p

Not much of a stretch at all really...you both know each other quite well as players. I imagine though if I am correct that your PMs to SH are quite colorful.


But as I said, THIS IS GUT. nothing more...yet.

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