[champ]

Yeh, gotta love Sons...

The season in Ireland isn't the best but every other rocks!

And with you Traveller, I was like WTF!

[Abyss]

Finished S4, into S5...

Traveller, on 08 February 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

I'd quite like to see Lincoln Potter come back for an episode, just to hear him say 'anarchy'.

He was such a highlight of S4, and I loved how his story concluded.

Really? because ...
S4 FINALE SPOILERS

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while i liked how his entire plan got fucked by the CIA agenda, i thought his whole 'good guys need a win so i'm going to fuck mayor Hale's plan with sex toys' thing came out of virtually nowhere.

Traveller, on 21 February 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

S5... episode 3.

Holy. Fucking. Shit!

I did not see that coming. Although

Spoiler

I guess he'd lost everything.. wife, kids, and father. Still, I sort of hoped he'd get himself together at some point.

Traveller, on 21 February 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

I was talking about

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Ope.

Just mad when u have a character that's been through so much end up like that. This program has always had moments where you can see what is about to happen and can't quite believe it, and you wonder how they'll get out of it. Then it happens anyway.

That was one of them.

Yeah, just watched that last night actually.
S5 ep 3 major SPOILER...

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i suspected we were going in that direction when Clay of all people convinced Ope to stick with Jax (as an aside i think Clay did that hoping that Ope and/or Jax would be taken out), and once Pope set the stage for what Jax was going to have to do in solitaire i was certain Ope was on deck because killing Chibs made less sense and drama required that it not be Tig, because the entire situation was his stupid fault. Relatedly, i know it's unlikely, but i won't weep if Tig ever gets offed...
Extra credit to the show runners for not making the kill some sort of glorious moment where Ope pulls a Warf and takes out the four Niners and ten more guys before going down. The scene was violent and brutal and played out the only way it could. His smile at Jax at the end, which was i think the first time he's smiled since the abortion thing, was wrenching.

Am consistently blown away by this show.

[Abyss]

Season 5, episode 5, contains one of the funniest things i have ever seen on television, ever.

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During the She-male scene, when they're trying to convince the teenager that the whole MC is way into the she-man bone...
and Chibs, absolutely deadpan, thrusts both fists towards his own face and says "Lots."

I had to watch that four times and it's the next day and i'm still cracking up when i think of it. Tommy Flanagan is a great actor, but this was his bestest moment ever.

Unrelatedly, i didn't know showrunner Sutter plays Otto. neat.

[Traveller]

They REALLY needed an episode like that after the previous two. Or 5..

I thought

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Ope might be on the way out after that comment to Jax.. ' this just ain't fun any more.' But yes, a well-done, brutal but realistic exit. Jax will so get that prison guard later.

And yes, that she-male scene was goddamn funny.

[Abyss]

S5, up to ep11.... things are building nicely... but

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FFS JUICE GROW A FUCKING SPINE ALREADY!!!! OR JUST DIE!!!!!

Sorry, had to vent.

Juice's entire plotline S4 and S5 hinges on the 'his Dad is black' thing, which is ridiculous to start with, but compounded by the fact that every time another Son learns about it, THEY CONFIRM IT'S FUCKING STUPID.
When your own characters keep stating how dumb something is, it doesn't exactly sell the idea to the audience, especially since Juice was like the MC boy genius up until this started.

They've tried to counter it with the 'he has no other family' and the 'Clay as father figure thing', but at root i thought this was the weakest development in the show to date.

Still loving it tho'.

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Briar King, on 21 March 2013 - 04:13 AM, said:

How many do you watch a day? There what, 13 a S? That's alot to watch plus those last 4 were in the 90 min(on TV) mark. Glad your almost caught up though! Also does this air in Can the same time as it does for us or y'all gotta wait?

The pattern has been 2-3 eps at a time. S5 is 13 eps so 2 left. No commercials on On Demand, so 90min is more like 65.

Watched S1-4 on disk or OD so i don't know when they originally aired but i think Cnd was a bit behind the US initially.

S5 aired in Cnd back in Sept around the same time it aired in the US, on Superchannel which is special order here as opposed to 'normal' digital cable, but doesn't cost much.

[Traveller]

Season 5 is... heavy going.

It's just one big heap of escalating problems, followed by fuck-ups, followed by more people getting killed.

The early seasons built up the characters nicely, and also created sympathy for them, but this season has pretty much killed all of that. Jax keeps saying one thing and doing one out of character thing after another; the way things are going I am rapidly losing any interest in it, as they have all changed so much that I no longer care what happens to them anymore.

I'll watch the rest of it, no doubt, but as Opie said back in episode 3 of this season .. it's just not fun anymore.

Also.. how come all this money is always changing hands during the deals, but nobody ever seems to have any? They'd be living exactly the same way if they stuck to, you know, repairing motorcycles, but without getting themselves and their families killed.

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Traveller, on 25 April 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

...Also.. how come all this money is always changing hands during the deals, but nobody ever seems to have any? They'd be living exactly the same way if they stuck to, you know, repairing motorcycles, but without getting themselves and their families killed.

Sound fiscal planning isn't an MC strong point. I actually found it fascnating how despite all the work they put into their crime, the Sons weren't actually making that much cash on guns and protection. In S1 or S2 there were a few complaints that times were tight.

It was actually a fairly important element in why they started dealing w the cartels and everything that followed. The Mayans and the Niners were similarly non-profitable, which stands out any time anyone dealt with the Triad or Pope's people.

I agree that S5 was grimmer, but it also escalated the conflict on a number of fronts, and yah some people did some incredibly stupid things, but there was usually a semi-reasonable explanation. Usually. Tig's drive-by action at the end of S4 that triggers a hell of a lot of things this season bordered on outright stupid, and Gemma got annoying as fuck.

[Traveller]

I still think its a great show, but where season 2 did a great job of strengthening Gemmas character, season 4 had her

Spoiler

running around trying to manipulate people into killing Clay, and setting her up as the one who really killed JT. Similarly, the show has been revolving around whether Jax can get the club back to how JT envisioned it - and then has him injecting his rehabilitated ex with junk?

I hope its just trying to show how being Club Pres corrupts, and Jax pulls himself back in time, because if he goes off the rails, so does the show.

[Traveller]

Wow. Season 5 finale rocked.

Jax

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turning into Clay was done nicely. Even down to using Tig as triggerman. Could see the Tara thing going down, but that was kind of inevitable.

It was better as I didn't even know it was the finale until the end, when I thought, damn that was good.. that had to be the end though right?

[Gothos]

Not gonna read through the thread to avoid spoilers, but I just started on this today and.... THIS SHOW IS SO FUCKING AWESOME

[Gothos]

by now I've started season 3. and HOLY SHIT JEOR MORMONT! AS A PRIEST! A GANGSTER PRIEST!

[Gothos]

Loved it, aye.

On season 5 now, and I'm getting these like cyclopean Godfather Part II vibes...

[Jakovasaurus]

SAMCRO meeting tonight @ 11:00pm. Location: Elks Lodge #3 out on hwy 83. Leave your old ladies at home.

[tiam]

Where are people watching season 5? In the UK I bought season 1-4 finished them then bought netflix (for breaking bad) but that only has upto season 4 aswell.

[Abyss]

S6 started here last night. Superchannel is carrying it in Canada instead of FX.


Haven't watched yet but psyched!

[Gothos]

Just seen it. Looking very good so far, they're not just recycling old stuff, which is good. Great that the show is continuing


And they just couldn't let us not see charlie hunnam's bare ass, could they? Ah well.

[Jakovasaurus]

[Abyss]

I won't be watching S6 til Nov or so, but damn i'm psyched.

[Traveller]

We'll probably have to wait until January or something, like last time. Which means I should really be avoiding this thread...