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That's the bit I do my best to hide.
LOTR the looooooooooooong editions
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 01:44 AM
If an opinion contrary to your own makes you angry, that is a sign that you are subconsciously aware of having no good reason for thinking as you do. If some one maintains that two and two are five, or that Iceland is on the equator, you feel pity rather than anger, unless you know so little of arithmetic or geography that his opinion shakes your own contrary conviction. … So whenever you find yourself getting angry about a difference of opinion, be on your guard; you will probably find, on examination, that your belief is going beyond what the evidence warrants. Bertrand Russell
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 01:48 AM
Thelomen Toblerone, on Feb 3 2009, 05:51 PM, said:
But I loved the first two, especially the Fellowship OTR - could watch that again and again. Sean Bean was inspired casting.
The only problem with the BoroBean is that I somehow always get this weird mental image of him Lady Chatterleying it up with Aragorn during his death scene. Really spoils the ambience! Must be the woodland setting.....
Just to take the geekdom in this thread down a notch or two!
I had been desperate to see FotR ever since I heard it was being made. Some friends came down to Bath to visit the opening weekend and we had had tickets for ages. Unfortunately, on the Friday evening, myself and one friend were attacked by a bottle of vodka. I had an epic hangover that day and recall vomitting a little in my mouth during one of the swoopy shots up Sarumans tower. I had to close my eyes through lots of the film to prevent it happening again! Oh dear oh dear.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 02:00 AM
Mezla PigDog, on Feb 6 2009, 01:48 AM, said:
The only problem with the BoroBean is that I somehow always get this weird mental image of him Lady Chatterleying it up with Aragorn during his death scene. Really spoils the ambience! Must be the woodland setting.....
Have you been spending too much time with Terez? Yaoi of the Rings is, I feel, just a final step too far... I mean, gay hobbits is one thing...
If an opinion contrary to your own makes you angry, that is a sign that you are subconsciously aware of having no good reason for thinking as you do. If some one maintains that two and two are five, or that Iceland is on the equator, you feel pity rather than anger, unless you know so little of arithmetic or geography that his opinion shakes your own contrary conviction. … So whenever you find yourself getting angry about a difference of opinion, be on your guard; you will probably find, on examination, that your belief is going beyond what the evidence warrants. Bertrand Russell
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 03:57 AM
stone monkey, on Feb 5 2009, 09:00 PM, said:
Mezla PigDog, on Feb 6 2009, 01:48 AM, said:
The only problem with the BoroBean is that I somehow always get this weird mental image of him Lady Chatterleying it up with Aragorn during his death scene. Really spoils the ambience! Must be the woodland setting.....
Have you been spending too much time with Terez? Yaoi of the Rings is, I feel, just a final step too far... I mean, gay hobbits is one thing...
It's more my own personal problem with constantly sexualising the BoroBean. There's nowhere for it to go due to lack of women in those movies! Put Seen Bean in a forest and any woman who has seen the BBC version of Lady Chatterley's Lover will think the same!!
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 09:00 AM
That thing about sexual tension between hobbits and the lacking gay scenes is very true.
When I watched the first one with my friend, all we could do was point out obvious childish places where there should have been sneaky hobbit sex going on.
From the opening scene where it looks like Frodo is sitting by a tree and masturbating, Samwells obvious gay enthrallment with Frodo's penis, to the long trek where a bunch of fully grown, horny old men are travelling for months with small childlike feminine, mini-men that were just up for grabs.
And of course then there's all the ring references. We were chuckling all through the film.
When I watched the first one with my friend, all we could do was point out obvious childish places where there should have been sneaky hobbit sex going on.
From the opening scene where it looks like Frodo is sitting by a tree and masturbating, Samwells obvious gay enthrallment with Frodo's penis, to the long trek where a bunch of fully grown, horny old men are travelling for months with small childlike feminine, mini-men that were just up for grabs.
And of course then there's all the ring references. We were chuckling all through the film.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 05:41 PM
Gay references? in Lotr? Surely not!
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:00 PM
Someone must have released a gay porn version of the LOTR by now, surely?
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:10 PM
the disturbing part of my brain wants to buy that
upon reading the reviews, it actually looks like it oculd be entertaining.
upon reading the reviews, it actually looks like it oculd be entertaining.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 11:16 PM
You do realize that the amount of slash fiction generated by the LOTR movies probably even dwarfs that of Star Trek.
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Posted 24 February 2023 - 11:53 AM
So, since this is the only generic LOTR thread I could find (check that 14 year gap!), some shitty news:
https://www.news.com...a9ea694d2eb8953
New Lord of the Rings films in the works at Warner Bros
Warner Bros. and New Line have made a major Lord of the Rings announcement, 20 years after Peter Jackson’s original film trilogy wrapped up.
Warner Bros Pictures and New Line Cinema have announced they’re heading back to Middle-earth.
The studio has struck a multi-year deal with Swedish gaming company Embracer Group – which currently holds the rights to produce J. R. R Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings into films, games, merchandise, theme park attractions and live productions.
Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav revealed the deal on Thursday, explaining that new studio bosses Mike De Luca and Pam Abdy had negotiated to make “multiple” films based on the hugely popular books, which will be developed through New Line Cinema.
Amazon still holds the TV rights to Lord of the Rings, and released the first season of its blockbuster budget The Rings of Power series on Prime Video last year. Filming on its second season is currently underway in the United Kingdom.
It’s currently unclear what the new films will be focused on: Amazon’s new series tells stories from the lesser-known Second Age, while Peter Jackson's original LOTR trilogy was set in the Third Age, when most of Tolkien’s most famous characters lived.
The announcement that Tolkien’s beloved works will be revamped in cinemas comes 20 years after director Jackson’s LOTR trilogy wrapped up with 2003’s Return of the King.
The three films collectively raked in $3 billion at the box office, pulled off 17 Oscar wins from a whopping 30 nominations, attracted widespread critical praise and reshaped the movie-making landscape with its special effects.
Jackson later returned to direct The Hobbit trilogy – released between 2012 and 2014 – which received less favourable reviews than its predecessor but still proved a financial slam dunk at the global box office with a $2.93 billion profit.
Following the new announcement, Jackson and his LOTR collaborators, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, released a statement to Variety stating that Warner Bros. had “kept us in the loop every step of the way”, adding that they “look forward to speaking with them further to hear their vision for the franchise moving forward.”
https://www.news.com...a9ea694d2eb8953
New Lord of the Rings films in the works at Warner Bros
Warner Bros. and New Line have made a major Lord of the Rings announcement, 20 years after Peter Jackson’s original film trilogy wrapped up.
Warner Bros Pictures and New Line Cinema have announced they’re heading back to Middle-earth.
The studio has struck a multi-year deal with Swedish gaming company Embracer Group – which currently holds the rights to produce J. R. R Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings into films, games, merchandise, theme park attractions and live productions.
Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav revealed the deal on Thursday, explaining that new studio bosses Mike De Luca and Pam Abdy had negotiated to make “multiple” films based on the hugely popular books, which will be developed through New Line Cinema.
Amazon still holds the TV rights to Lord of the Rings, and released the first season of its blockbuster budget The Rings of Power series on Prime Video last year. Filming on its second season is currently underway in the United Kingdom.
It’s currently unclear what the new films will be focused on: Amazon’s new series tells stories from the lesser-known Second Age, while Peter Jackson's original LOTR trilogy was set in the Third Age, when most of Tolkien’s most famous characters lived.
The announcement that Tolkien’s beloved works will be revamped in cinemas comes 20 years after director Jackson’s LOTR trilogy wrapped up with 2003’s Return of the King.
The three films collectively raked in $3 billion at the box office, pulled off 17 Oscar wins from a whopping 30 nominations, attracted widespread critical praise and reshaped the movie-making landscape with its special effects.
Jackson later returned to direct The Hobbit trilogy – released between 2012 and 2014 – which received less favourable reviews than its predecessor but still proved a financial slam dunk at the global box office with a $2.93 billion profit.
Following the new announcement, Jackson and his LOTR collaborators, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, released a statement to Variety stating that Warner Bros. had “kept us in the loop every step of the way”, adding that they “look forward to speaking with them further to hear their vision for the franchise moving forward.”
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Posted 24 February 2023 - 01:28 PM
Well RINGS OF POWER (which I had been excited about) SEVERELY tempered my expectations of any non-Tolkien-based adaptation.
If they are remaking the trilogy, then that's a no for me dawg....there is simply no reason to remake them (other than capitalist ones; which David Zaslav....I get it) while the original PJ movies are still incredibly beloved, and have held up exceptionally well in the intervening 20 years.
Middle Earth Enterprises (which is what Embracer owns), formerly Saul Zaentz Company-owned as Tolkien Enterprises, ONLY has the same rights as WB/PJ had to LOTR and THE HOBBIT (and appendices)....so I don't know what they could do beyond remaking it....and just no.
EDIT: A cynical part of me wonders if they want to make sequels...they have the rights to characters and names from LOTR and The Hobbit, so I don't know that they legally couldn't...but still. There's a reason that Tolkien stopped writing his sequel - THE NEW SHADOW; a satanic-like cult springs up in the years following Sauron's defeat as humans get bored living in a peaceful kingdom under Aragorn, and his successors slip back into evil....as he thought men would eventually do in the 4th Age...and they want to resurrect him because they are fascinated by him I think?....Tolkien stopped after 13 pages because “It proved both sinister and depressing.”
EDIT 2: Also if WB is looking for their new LOTR-worthy franchise to flog, DUNE is it....the first movie was a hit, the second comes out this year and will hopefully be more of the same, then you can still do DUNE MESSIAH as the 3rd, and further if you want....and the TV show that they are shooting about the Bene Gesserit....like if Zaslav wants his jewel for his crown, he needn't steal it from LOTR with The Lord Awakens...it's like these suits can't see the goods in front of them.
If they are remaking the trilogy, then that's a no for me dawg....there is simply no reason to remake them (other than capitalist ones; which David Zaslav....I get it) while the original PJ movies are still incredibly beloved, and have held up exceptionally well in the intervening 20 years.
Middle Earth Enterprises (which is what Embracer owns), formerly Saul Zaentz Company-owned as Tolkien Enterprises, ONLY has the same rights as WB/PJ had to LOTR and THE HOBBIT (and appendices)....so I don't know what they could do beyond remaking it....and just no.
EDIT: A cynical part of me wonders if they want to make sequels...they have the rights to characters and names from LOTR and The Hobbit, so I don't know that they legally couldn't...but still. There's a reason that Tolkien stopped writing his sequel - THE NEW SHADOW; a satanic-like cult springs up in the years following Sauron's defeat as humans get bored living in a peaceful kingdom under Aragorn, and his successors slip back into evil....as he thought men would eventually do in the 4th Age...and they want to resurrect him because they are fascinated by him I think?....Tolkien stopped after 13 pages because “It proved both sinister and depressing.”
EDIT 2: Also if WB is looking for their new LOTR-worthy franchise to flog, DUNE is it....the first movie was a hit, the second comes out this year and will hopefully be more of the same, then you can still do DUNE MESSIAH as the 3rd, and further if you want....and the TV show that they are shooting about the Bene Gesserit....like if Zaslav wants his jewel for his crown, he needn't steal it from LOTR with The Lord Awakens...it's like these suits can't see the goods in front of them.
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Posted 28 February 2023 - 07:24 AM
On Tolkein and rights:
https://www.theoneri...ngs-and-rights/
Quite an interesting look into who can do what with what based on the rights they have etc.
https://www.theoneri...ngs-and-rights/
Quite an interesting look into who can do what with what based on the rights they have etc.
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Posted 28 February 2023 - 12:51 PM
Some stuff just... doesn't need a remake or a sequel, and LOTR is that.
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Posted 28 February 2023 - 10:32 PM
Maark Abbott, on 28 February 2023 - 12:51 PM, said:
Some stuff just... doesn't need a remake or a sequel, and LOTR is that.
Agreed. And yet, whatever is made I will 100% watch. And I think they know that. The gits.
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Posted 01 March 2023 - 07:07 AM
I will give the second series of Rings of Power a try when it gets here, but I was pretty unimpressed with it overall so I don't have a lot of hope of any further adaptions.
Jackson's films were lightning in a bottle, we won't see another trilogy that strong for a very long time (as shown rather aptly by how mediocre the Hobbit trilogy was). I might not be the sort of Tolkien fan who was frothing at the mouth all over the internet about Rings of Power, but at the same time I like the source material too much to want to see it messed with carelessly - and I felt Rings of Power, despite some of it's good points, didn't really understand the spirit of the source material and it showed. That's how we got Galadriel the Stroppy Teenager.
Jackson's films were lightning in a bottle, we won't see another trilogy that strong for a very long time (as shown rather aptly by how mediocre the Hobbit trilogy was). I might not be the sort of Tolkien fan who was frothing at the mouth all over the internet about Rings of Power, but at the same time I like the source material too much to want to see it messed with carelessly - and I felt Rings of Power, despite some of it's good points, didn't really understand the spirit of the source material and it showed. That's how we got Galadriel the Stroppy Teenager.
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