[Meanas]

Very quiet this weekend everyone must be hung over. Rashan has made several mistakes lately but your right (thyrllan) that it is his defense of D'riss and then his subsequent action of ignoring and pushing another lynch that is really suspect. I do think that your wrong and that there is a big enough difference between the words Korlat was night killed and "we lynched Korlat" for it to be an actual mistake by either a symp or a killer. He then lied about when he put his vote back on to galain and for the reasons why he took it off in the first place. There was no reason for him to lie about it. All he had to do was to look back a page. Those moves smack to me of someone who is starting to panic and is making a lot of small mistakes. The connection between D'riss, Rashan and to a smaller extent Omtose is very worry some at this stage of the game. I am fine with voting for D'riss and he has defended himself several times, really there is nothing that he can say. It comes down to mafia rules and so we have to lynch him. I think that it was a mistake to have not lynched him yesterday.

So

VOTE D'riss

[Path-Shaper]

it is day 8, 36 hours left weekend freeze is in effect

8 people are still alive (Hood's Path, Ruse, Lioasan, Meanas, Omtose, D'riss, Thyrllan, Rashan)

takes 5 votes to lynch or 4 to go to night

1 vote for Ruse (Thyrllan)
3 votes for D'riss (Liosan, Omtose, Meanas)

4 people have not voted (Hood's Path, Ruse,D'riss, Rashan)

[Hood's Path]

I have to say your case on Rashan does make sense. The strangest thing to me so far is that Rashan has not presented any type of defense. He posted to say he was going to have his defense and a case on you (Meanas) shortly, but it never appeared. The most he did was comment on Ruse's drunken posts. That strikes me as odd, someone has just made a fairly good case against you, but rather than defend yourself or give an explanation you just talk about someone's drunken posts. Then he says he's tired an going to bed claims he'll be back today with a case but still nothing. Is it possible he didn't make a defense because he didn't want to draw anymore attention to himself? Or he needed time to come up with something that would look plausible? Very suspicious!

I too support voting D'riss, the only reason I'm not voting right now it that I want to hear from Rashan. I'm worried about a double voter being on the D'riss train, if that's the case my vote would give us the lynch. I don't want to send us to night without hearing what Rashan has to say for himslef.

Edit for clarity

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 31 January 2009 - 08:16 PM

[Rashan]

Vote D'riss

My defense is this. I forgot to vote off D'riss because of the amount of scummy ness Galain had shown. I have no time now, but I will explain everything after night is over. So please don't speed lynch me. Let night go through and if I am still alive (I know scummy to say that) I will explain. If not, well, you need not worry about an explanation I guess. Sorry, really fucked up RL shit going on, I'll be back in 20 hours or so.

[Path-Shaper]

it is day 8, 36 hours left weekend freeze is in effect

8 people are still alive (Hood's Path, Ruse, Lioasan, Meanas, Omtose, D'riss, Thyrllan, Rashan)

takes 5 votes to lynch or 4 to go to night

1 vote for Ruse (Thyrllan)
4 votes for D'riss (Liosan, Omtose, Meanas, Rashan)

3 people have not voted (Hood's Path, Ruse,D'riss)

The day goes on, accusations go flying. Some mumble about other being inconspicuous from day 1, others keep treatening to bring forth cases that never come, others just call everyone "cunts" on the tops of their lungs..

but more and more often, one name comes up

"D'riss said he was a witch"
"We lynched one witch, why not the other?"
"wait, i thought the witch was on our side?"
"Yeah, but HOW CAN WE KNOW? HOW WE CAN WE KNOW???"
"hmm, good point. let's lynch him"

"But... but... But I thought I was a HERO", mumbles D'riss in his noobish innocence.

"Well, you were.. kinda. But we don't know for which side"

And with that, the rope swings, and D'riss' neck is attached to it.

D'riss (Hinter) is dead

It is now night, please submit your actions

[Hood's Path]

Crap! So much for my waiting to hear from Rashan before casting my vote! We heard from him alright! I just didn't expect him to come in offer no real denfense of any kind and then vote Driss on top if it all!

[Path-Shaper]

the sun is definitely out of whack these days--seems as soon as it sets in the west, it pops right back u in the East.

you awaken to find another one of you pummeled into bloody pulp in the night.
If one were to describe the murder, it'd be "quick and hard"

Thyrllan (Grief) is Dead

it is day 9, 36 hours on the clock, weekend freeze is in effect

6 of you are still alive (Liosan, Hood's Path, Ruse, Rashan, Meanas Omtose)

Takes 4 votes to lynch or 3 to go to night

no one has voted

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 31 January 2009 - 08:52 PM

[Hood's Path]

Holy shit! What is going on?! I thought weekend were supposed to be dead! Thoughts on all of this anyone?!

[Meanas]

WTF! I think that Rashan is the killer and that Omtose is his symp. That is my thought. It was super scummy of rashan to come on and drop a hammer vote like that. He offered no defense at all and then comes on and quickly as you please votes off D'riss. Then night ends almost immediately. Actually it could go either way. Omtose could be the killer and Rashan the symp. Shit at this point they could both be killers.

[Hood's Path]

It is shady! He could have come on and said what he had to say without voting for Driss! I think you could be right about a connection between he and Omtose, but now apparently have to wait 20 hours for him to grace us with his prescence again! The other person I'm unsure of is Ruse, I don't really like his behaviour and his argument with Thyrllan. I'm not sure if it was just drunking ranting or if the whole thing was designed to throw us off his trail. I'm going to have to go back and take a look.

[Omtose]

And it's going exactly like I feared it would... killers won't target me because I'm contaminated (and drunk while tuping this) by my day 1 behavior.

Seriously, I have been actively participating since my absence day 2 and actively searching for stuff - of course I could be m,isleadiong you all, but can'ty you all see how close to a loss we are?

6 players left - time to think for yourselfs, people! Who is scummy, and why?

I know I am scummy for day 1 behavior - but look at stuff that happened since then! Yesterday, the only new case made was mine on Liosan and it wasn't even a good one, for fucks sake - we're always going on stuff at least one day old, we never ever analyse previous trains... I tell you, things ae not going as they should. More, we'e still divided on what to do and on who could be scummy!

As said, i can take swinging for my day 1 behavior (it';s a lesson I learned and won't repeat), but I really feel that somewhere between the anomander lynch and now, we've been led astray, and it will be only luck if we do not lose the game by today's (=game day's) end.

My scum list is:

Ruse - for shouting out loud, it makes people recoil and not read it, which is exactly what a killer wants
Liosan - for leading a few fairly important lynches and as said, he hasn't been uestioned enough! (same as goes for me)
Rashan - for reasons mentioned by HP and Meanas.

And that's three where we can lynch only 1 today.

Also, a uiet word in my defense: look at everyone you have linked me with, people. Rashan now, D'triss before that, then Galain before that. The killing hasn't stopped. Either I'm a fucking killer and you should have stringed me up days before (when I said it would be a good time, ffs) or you're staring yourself blind on what happened day 1 and what I explained a couple of times before and fail to look at other options.

Right now, you're clutching at straws and try to see connections that aren't there. Shadow and I agreed on multiple issues, and shadow's word was good enough to lynch D'riss on - yet it now seems forgotten. Morgoth and I agreed on stuff (oki, we always do) and he was a fucking CI. I never dealt directly with either D'riss, Rashan or Galain (him outside day 1) and yet you all assume there is a connection somehow despite absence of a connection, or maybe because of it.

Make up your minds, but try and form a view for once in which I am not a part of the spider's web, even if it is just as a theoretical excersize - if you were so certain of it, you should either have ridden me harder and uestioned me far more thoroughly, or you should have ignored me completely.

As it stands, you did neither and it is hurting our chances (= team inno) massively right now.
As said, I don't care if I die, but if I do and it costs us the game, aside from blaming me for day 1 RP, you should also examine your own way of looking at things thoroughly, for right now, you're all far too convinced of one thing yet every time failed to face the conseuences and pursue my lynch.

That being said,

Vote Ruse

B ecause I think he is scum, and I thus, I want him dead.
I'll be damned if I vote for myself. I never did that and am not going to the school of theatrics and do it now.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 01 February 2009 - 12:11 AM

[Mentalist]

not to mention those votes still don't count. read the rules

incidentally, i'm going out for the night soon, so the thread will be modless for a good number of hours

[Hood's Path]

Ok I have a question for you Omtose, just to kick some ideas back and forth. What do you think about Meanas? Rashan keeps saying he's going to make a case against Meanas and it never appears. I went throguh Meana's posts and didn't see anything particularly scummy. Do you think Rashan keeps mentioning Meanas in hopes that we'll focus on him even without the case and just try going for the lynch. Or do you think there really is something to Meanas and we've missed it all along? No one else has really accused him of anything, it's mostly Rashan. Which makes me wonder why? Discuss please!

[Liosan]

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

And it's going exactly like I feared it would... killers won't target me because I'm contaminated (and drunk while tuping this) by my day 1 behavior.

Seriously, I have been actively participating since my absence day 2 and actively searching for stuff - of course I could be m,isleadiong you all, but can'ty you all see how close to a loss we are?

6 players left - time to think for yourselfs, people! Who is scummy, and why?

I know I am scummy for day 1 behavior - but look at stuff that happened since then! Yesterday, the only new case made was mine on Liosan and it wasn't even a good one, for fucks sake - we're always going on stuff at least one day old, we never ever analyse previous trains... I tell you, things ae not going as they should. More, we'e still divided on what to do and on who could be scummy!

As said, i can take swinging for my day 1 behavior (it';s a lesson I learned and won't repeat), but I really feel that somewhere between the anomander lynch and now, we've been led astray, and it will be only luck if we do not lose the game by today's (=game day's) end.

My scum list is:

Ruse - for shouting out loud, it makes people recoil and not read it, which is exactly what a killer wants
Liosan - for leading a few fairly important lynches and as said, he hasn't been uestioned enough! (same as goes for me)
Rashan - for reasons mentioned by HP and Meanas.

And that's three where we can lynch only 1 today.

Also, a uiet word in my defense: look at everyone you have linked me with, people. Rashan now, D'triss before that, then Galain before that. The killing hasn't stopped. Either I'm a fucking killer and you should have stringed me up days before (when I said it would be a good time, ffs) or you're staring yourself blind on what happened day 1 and what I explained a couple of times before and fail to look at other options.

Right now, you're clutching at straws and try to see connections that aren't there. Shadow and I agreed on multiple issues, and shadow's word was good enough to lynch D'riss on - yet it now seems forgotten. Morgoth and I agreed on stuff (oki, we always do) and he was a fucking CI. I never dealt directly with either D'riss, Rashan or Galain (him outside day 1) and yet you all assume there is a connection somehow despite absence of a connection, or maybe because of it.

Make up your minds, but try and form a view for once in which I am not a part of the spider's web, even if it is just as a theoretical excersize - if you were so certain of it, you should either have ridden me harder and uestioned me far more thoroughly, or you should have ignored me completely.

As it stands, you did neither and it is hurting our chances (= team inno) massively right now.
As said, I don't care if I die, but if I do and it costs us the game, aside from blaming me for day 1 RP, you should also examine your own way of looking at things thoroughly, for right now, you're all far too convinced of one thing yet every time failed to face the conseuences and pursue my lynch.

That being said,

Vote Ruse

B ecause I think he is scum, and I thus, I want him dead.
I'll be damned if I vote for myself. I never did that and am not going to the school of theatrics and do it now.

Yet we are down to six people which means we must be doing something right because I have always played with the scenario 4 killers(be that 3 and a symp or 2 and 2 symps), 3 undead(2 necros and the creature), and 13 innos. At the most there are 2 evil in play, but i think i was right when hunting down the necros and i think i have been spot on in removing the killers team since ano too, so i think there is only one left. This is where we hit murky territory as well, because thyrllans death implies ruse, and lo and behold you come on spouting your whiter than white and vote ruse, when i think its between you and rashan.

vote omtose

[Omtose]

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 10:39 AM, said:

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

And it's going exactly like I feared it would... killers won't target me because I'm contaminated (and drunk while tuping this) by my day 1 behavior.

Seriously, I have been actively participating since my absence day 2 and actively searching for stuff - of course I could be m,isleadiong you all, but can'ty you all see how close to a loss we are?

6 players left - time to think for yourselfs, people! Who is scummy, and why?

I know I am scummy for day 1 behavior - but look at stuff that happened since then! Yesterday, the only new case made was mine on Liosan and it wasn't even a good one, for fucks sake - we're always going on stuff at least one day old, we never ever analyse previous trains... I tell you, things ae not going as they should. More, we'e still divided on what to do and on who could be scummy!

As said, i can take swinging for my day 1 behavior (it';s a lesson I learned and won't repeat), but I really feel that somewhere between the anomander lynch and now, we've been led astray, and it will be only luck if we do not lose the game by today's (=game day's) end.

My scum list is:

Ruse - for shouting out loud, it makes people recoil and not read it, which is exactly what a killer wants
Liosan - for leading a few fairly important lynches and as said, he hasn't been uestioned enough! (same as goes for me)
Rashan - for reasons mentioned by HP and Meanas.

And that's three where we can lynch only 1 today.

Also, a uiet word in my defense: look at everyone you have linked me with, people. Rashan now, D'triss before that, then Galain before that. The killing hasn't stopped. Either I'm a fucking killer and you should have stringed me up days before (when I said it would be a good time, ffs) or you're staring yourself blind on what happened day 1 and what I explained a couple of times before and fail to look at other options.

Right now, you're clutching at straws and try to see connections that aren't there. Shadow and I agreed on multiple issues, and shadow's word was good enough to lynch D'riss on - yet it now seems forgotten. Morgoth and I agreed on stuff (oki, we always do) and he was a fucking CI. I never dealt directly with either D'riss, Rashan or Galain (him outside day 1) and yet you all assume there is a connection somehow despite absence of a connection, or maybe because of it.

Make up your minds, but try and form a view for once in which I am not a part of the spider's web, even if it is just as a theoretical excersize - if you were so certain of it, you should either have ridden me harder and uestioned me far more thoroughly, or you should have ignored me completely.

As it stands, you did neither and it is hurting our chances (= team inno) massively right now.
As said, I don't care if I die, but if I do and it costs us the game, aside from blaming me for day 1 RP, you should also examine your own way of looking at things thoroughly, for right now, you're all far too convinced of one thing yet every time failed to face the conseuences and pursue my lynch.

That being said,

Vote Ruse

B ecause I think he is scum, and I thus, I want him dead.
I'll be damned if I vote for myself. I never did that and am not going to the school of theatrics and do it now.

Yet we are down to six people which means we must be doing something right because I have always played with the scenario 4 killers(be that 3 and a symp or 2 and 2 symps), 3 undead(2 necros and the creature), and 13 innos. At the most there are 2 evil in play, but i think i was right when hunting down the necros and i think i have been spot on in removing the killers team since ano too, so i think there is only one left. This is where we hit murky territory as well, because thyrllans death implies ruse, and lo and behold you come on spouting your whiter than white and vote ruse, when i think its between you and rashan.

vote omtose

Yeah, timing was unfortunate, I'll give you that.
However, leave out the stuff about me and look at the rest of my post and you'll probably have to agree with me on those parts.

[Omtose]

Hood's Path, on Feb 1 2009, 01:36 AM, said:

Ok I have a question for you Omtose, just to kick some ideas back and forth. What do you think about Meanas? Rashan keeps saying he's going to make a case against Meanas and it never appears. I went throguh Meana's posts and didn't see anything particularly scummy. Do you think Rashan keeps mentioning Meanas in hopes that we'll focus on him even without the case and just try going for the lynch. Or do you think there really is something to Meanas and we've missed it all along? No one else has really accused him of anything, it's mostly Rashan. Which makes me wonder why? Discuss please!

It's scummy that the case wasn't forecoming - I think he (=Rashan) promised us that one when we lynched Galain, no?
However, there's no way of knowing what causes the delay

A few things about Meanas:
1) he's been instrumental in getting GL down, so he's dedicated in hunting necroes at the least (which says 0 right now, as I'm convinced that the only scum we have left, are the psycho's);
2) he's not as influential right now as he was then, but has been having opinions.

There's very little there, I'd say he's playing a good, typical RI game.

[Omtose]

Mentalist, on Feb 1 2009, 01:25 AM, said:

not to mention those votes still don't count. read the rules

incidentally, i'm going out for the night soon, so the thread will be modless for a good number of hours

Give me a break Ment, I was intoxicated

[Omtose]

And to make the quadrupple row complete:

@ Liosan: I fully agree we've gotten rid of all the necromancers and that it is us vs psycho's now.
Numberwise, I am not so sure if 4 is the exact number they had - imho, it could be 5, 3 killers sharing a kill, 2 symps - but in that case, the symps would be roleless.

If there's only 1 killer left and no symps, then today is a good day to get rid of me - otherwise, not so much

[Liosan]

Read my post, omtose. Do you or do you not agree that we have hit psychos? Oh and the timing is made worse by you being drunk, you realise that don't you?

[Omtose]

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 11:42 AM, said:

Read my post, omtose. Do you or do you not agree that we have hit psychos? Oh and the timing is made worse by you being drunk, you realise that don't you?

We must have hit at least one since Emurlahn if we made it to 6 players now, regardless of whether there were 4 or 5 scum to begin with. So yes, I agree, that's a fact.

We didn't hit the (last) killer(s?) though, so it is likely that we have removed a symp instead. Mind you, that symp could as well have been the day 1 lynch - and I find it impossible to distinguish which of our lynches since Anomandaris was the lynching of scum or inno.