[Hood's Path]

Never mind I forgot undead don't live without a necro, sorry.

[Meanas]

Hood's Path, on Feb 1 2009, 06:30 PM, said:

Well it's possible Rashan is trying to deflect attention with this reveal. I know he's short on time but that small case on Meanas was nothing much, especially since he had been going on about it for so long. Perhaps he was hoping that by telling us he was the executioner we wouldn't think of the possibility he could be undead and would take him at his word.

That was a case on me. I thought that it was just random accusations. Ruse followed me in voting on the day one lynch. WTF is that!

[Liosan]

Hood's Path, on Feb 1 2009, 06:30 PM, said:

Well it's possible Rashan is trying to deflect attention with this reveal. I know he's short on time but that small case on Meanas was nothing much, especially since he had been going on about it for so long. Perhaps he was hoping that by telling us he was the executioner we wouldn't think of the possibility he could be undead and would take him at his word.

I am pretty sure those guys are gone with ano, unless you think they arent?

[Omtose]

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 06:28 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 07:24 PM, said:

So we have two double voters and a claim for two witches? Well one of you has got to be a symp. There is no way we had two witches and two double voters on our team. The killer is one of the other four, well i will leave my vote where it is, because if we pick the wrong bully, the game ends and i am happy with voting for omtose. There hasn't been enough evidence posted to convince me that hp or ruse are killers while omtose has enough suspicions about him to be worth a roll of the dice. The symp can't win without a master, omtose, i think you are that master.

Fair enough... you have stated the why's and how's, and in your shoes, I may have done the same.
Also, there's fairly little I can say in defense - when a case is made on me, well... I can answer that, but the day 1 stuff is there all in black and white.
At the least, if we do have a vig (it's been ages since I last read the role descriptions), he knows which ones to throw a number for once I'm lynched.

Also, Liosan, does this now mean that you think D'riss was town?

I voted mockra off because i thought he was the symp if you remember correctly. I voted driss off because he counter revealed and we had no way to prove it wasnt a set up, not because i thought he was a symp.

okidoki. But that then begs the question: do you think that in an evil team of 4 (2 killers, 2 symps), both symps would be roled, meaning one witch, one double voter?

After all, 2 necromancers sharing a recruit list + a killer creature is maybe unbalanced when compared to 2 killers sharing a kill, and 2 roled symps.

[Meanas]

Hood's Path, on Feb 1 2009, 06:33 PM, said:

Never mind I forgot undead don't live without a necro, sorry.

Do they die? Or can they just not win.

Also HP could be a potential killer

[Hood's Path]

No, I don't think we have a necro left, as I say I forgot the undead could not survive without a necro.

[Meanas]

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 06:28 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 07:24 PM, said:

So we have two double voters and a claim for two witches? Well one of you has got to be a symp. There is no way we had two witches and two double voters on our team. The killer is one of the other four, well i will leave my vote where it is, because if we pick the wrong bully, the game ends and i am happy with voting for omtose. There hasn't been enough evidence posted to convince me that hp or ruse are killers while omtose has enough suspicions about him to be worth a roll of the dice. The symp can't win without a master, omtose, i think you are that master.

Fair enough... you have stated the why's and how's, and in your shoes, I may have done the same.
Also, there's fairly little I can say in defense - when a case is made on me, well... I can answer that, but the day 1 stuff is there all in black and white.
At the least, if we do have a vig (it's been ages since I last read the role descriptions), he knows which ones to throw a number for once I'm lynched.

Also, Liosan, does this now mean that you think D'riss was town?

I voted mockra off because i thought he was the symp if you remember correctly. I voted driss off because he counter revealed and we had no way to prove it wasnt a set up, not because i thought he was a symp.

okidoki. But that then begs the question: do you think that in an evil team of 4 (2 killers, 2 symps), both symps would be roled, meaning one witch, one double voter?

After all, 2 necromancers sharing a recruit list + a killer creature is maybe unbalanced when compared to 2 killers sharing a kill, and 2 roled symps.

If we assume that there were only 2 necro's starting off.

[Omtose]

Meanas, on Feb 1 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Feb 1 2009, 06:33 PM, said:

Never mind I forgot undead don't live without a necro, sorry.

Do they die? Or can they just not win.

Also HP could be a potential killer

That little bit made them jump up higher on my suspicion list, too - it's not like a cult of 3 recruits + 1 necromancer would suddenly be mod-killed when the necro dies.
I think P-S said something rather specific about this occurance...

[Omtose]

Meanas, on Feb 1 2009, 07:37 PM, said:

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 06:28 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 07:24 PM, said:

So we have two double voters and a claim for two witches? Well one of you has got to be a symp. There is no way we had two witches and two double voters on our team. The killer is one of the other four, well i will leave my vote where it is, because if we pick the wrong bully, the game ends and i am happy with voting for omtose. There hasn't been enough evidence posted to convince me that hp or ruse are killers while omtose has enough suspicions about him to be worth a roll of the dice. The symp can't win without a master, omtose, i think you are that master.

Fair enough... you have stated the why's and how's, and in your shoes, I may have done the same.
Also, there's fairly little I can say in defense - when a case is made on me, well... I can answer that, but the day 1 stuff is there all in black and white.
At the least, if we do have a vig (it's been ages since I last read the role descriptions), he knows which ones to throw a number for once I'm lynched.

Also, Liosan, does this now mean that you think D'riss was town?

I voted mockra off because i thought he was the symp if you remember correctly. I voted driss off because he counter revealed and we had no way to prove it wasnt a set up, not because i thought he was a symp.

okidoki. But that then begs the question: do you think that in an evil team of 4 (2 killers, 2 symps), both symps would be roled, meaning one witch, one double voter?

After all, 2 necromancers sharing a recruit list + a killer creature is maybe unbalanced when compared to 2 killers sharing a kill, and 2 roled symps.

If we assume that there were only 2 necro's starting off.

That has been my assumption, at the least

[Meanas]

Hood's Path, on Feb 1 2009, 06:35 PM, said:

No, I don't think we have a necro left, as I say I forgot the undead could not survive without a necro.

HP who do you think is a killer?

[Meanas]

I think that it is either Omtose or Ruse. I don't see it being Liosan or HoodsPath. But Ruse has been to out in front and in to many peoples face. But he could be playing one hell of a game, and Rashan as his symp driving lynches over the last couple of days would make sense.

[Hood's Path]

I'm torn between Omtose and Rashan at the moment. For a while I suspected ruse, but I went back and looked at his posts from day one. He seems to be full of bluster, and overreaction but I don't think he's the killer. I think he's a symp trying to draw attention away from the actuall killer. I'm still bothered by Rashan's reveal as it doesn't automatically mean he's inno, but I think that's what he wanted us to assume. Omtose's actions were very suspicious on day one the he was laying really low and now I feel he's being overly helpful. If I had to pick one I would say Omtose is the killer Rashan is his symp.

[Liosan]

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 06:28 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 1 2009, 07:24 PM, said:

So we have two double voters and a claim for two witches? Well one of you has got to be a symp. There is no way we had two witches and two double voters on our team. The killer is one of the other four, well i will leave my vote where it is, because if we pick the wrong bully, the game ends and i am happy with voting for omtose. There hasn't been enough evidence posted to convince me that hp or ruse are killers while omtose has enough suspicions about him to be worth a roll of the dice. The symp can't win without a master, omtose, i think you are that master.

Fair enough... you have stated the why's and how's, and in your shoes, I may have done the same.
Also, there's fairly little I can say in defense - when a case is made on me, well... I can answer that, but the day 1 stuff is there all in black and white.
At the least, if we do have a vig (it's been ages since I last read the role descriptions), he knows which ones to throw a number for once I'm lynched.

Also, Liosan, does this now mean that you think D'riss was town?

I voted mockra off because i thought he was the symp if you remember correctly. I voted driss off because he counter revealed and we had no way to prove it wasnt a set up, not because i thought he was a symp.

okidoki. But that then begs the question: do you think that in an evil team of 4 (2 killers, 2 symps), both symps would be roled, meaning one witch, one double voter?

After all, 2 necromancers sharing a recruit list + a killer creature is maybe unbalanced when compared to 2 killers sharing a kill, and 2 roled symps.

Not necessarily, i have been thinking about it quite a lot and if driss was the genuine witch the killers may have mistook night 3 for a recruitment and mockra may have actually been a killer claiming to take responsibility for a night without killing when in fact he simply withheld. Which would mean 3 killers and a double voter. we knew we had two double voters from day 1, so i assumed the symp was one of them, which would mean that we either did have two town witches or one was actually playing us. The only way they could be playing us was if they withheld a kill to make it to the end through a reveal.

They both had to go though as the uncertain they created needed to be addressed.

[Rashan]

hmmm, sorry I missed alot. I didn't know Meanas was the other double voter, I have been the only double voter on trains for he last couple of days. Shit. So I have made cases on our medium, a possible witch, and now pushed against the other double voter, fuck me, I am bad at this game. HA!

[Liosan]

Hood's Path, on Feb 1 2009, 06:41 PM, said:

I'm torn between Omtose and Rashan at the moment. For a while I suspected ruse, but I went back and looked at his posts from day one. He seems to be full of bluster, and overreaction but I don't think he's the killer. I think he's a symp trying to draw attention away from the actuall killer. I'm still bothered by Rashan's reveal as it doesn't automatically mean he's inno, but I think that's what he wanted us to assume. Omtose's actions were very suspicious on day one the he was laying really low and now I feel he's being overly helpful. If I had to pick one I would say Omtose is the killer Rashan is his symp.

my thoughts exactly.

[Rashan]

Is it too far of a stretch that both of us are innos, and one of us was expected to be recruited, but maybe we killed off the recruiters to early and now team inno has a major advantage, and why the fuck does everyone assume i am the symp and not Meanas?

[Liosan]

Omtose, on Feb 1 2009, 06:37 PM, said:

Meanas, on Feb 1 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Feb 1 2009, 06:33 PM, said:

Never mind I forgot undead don't live without a necro, sorry.

Do they die? Or can they just not win.

Also HP could be a potential killer

That little bit made them jump up higher on my suspicion list, too - it's not like a cult of 3 recruits + 1 necromancer would suddenly be mod-killed when the necro dies.
I think P-S said something rather specific about this occurance...

he said any recruits die when the last necro does and the creature turns sk on its own. I asked in pm twice; after that bit in thread to be sure and again when driss revealed because if ano was the last necro i expected the recruits to die, but if both were witches it meant that fener was possibly the only recruit.

I think thats what happened anyway, this game has been running so long i am starting to muddle the order up

[Hood's Path]

So do we take the risk of going with Omtose and hoping we're right about this which would send us into night? Or do we continue to discuss? I'm hesitant to vote as we have to be close to the end. We can't really afford a mistake.

[Meanas]

Rashan, on Feb 1 2009, 06:43 PM, said:

hmmm, sorry I missed alot. I didn't know Meanas was the other double voter, I have been the only double voter on trains for he last couple of days. Shit. So I have made cases on our medium, a possible witch, and now pushed against the other double voter, fuck me, I am bad at this game. HA!

That wasn't a case you made against me. I only revealed since I was outed by Omtose. I was trying to keep quiet and not reveal so that the killer would think that perhaps the other double voter had died and let me into the last day. Then it would have been surprise. You lose.

[Liosan]

Rashan, on Feb 1 2009, 06:43 PM, said:

hmmm, sorry I missed alot. I didn't know Meanas was the other double voter, I have been the only double voter on trains for he last couple of days. Shit. So I have made cases on our medium, a possible witch, and now pushed against the other double voter, fuck me, I am bad at this game. HA!

Rashan, on Feb 1 2009, 06:47 PM, said:

Is it too far of a stretch that both of us are innos, and one of us was expected to be recruited, but maybe we killed off the recruiters to early and now team inno has a major advantage, and why the fuck does everyone assume i am the symp and not Meanas?

I think it has something to do with that post above