[Mockra]

oh joy

it's always nice to know that you're people's last resort.

[Shadow]

You know what.

vote Ruse

I feel like we are being forced to choose between D'riss and Mockra. In Mafia when I feel like I am being pushed I try to push back. I didn't like the Ruse reaction to the reveal. Mockra has pretty much convinced me he isn't scum. Omtose has had a good gut so far, and that statement that Ruse made about Omtose kind of fading off, makes no sense as the only fading Omtose did was in day 2. He has been front and center with discussion usually. Even if D'riss or Mockra are symps... their just symps. we can win with them alive. We need to kill Killers and Necros. i am out. I will try to be back before a lynch..(I might have a window in a few hours) but if not, I am happy with this vote.

[Meanas]

Ok I am back for a minute. Could I get a vote count and a time update if there is a mod around.

[Mockra]

1 vote for me (Rashan)
2 votes for Ruse (Omtose, Shadow)

and its about....10? hours left

I think

[Path-Shaper]

This is day 6, 10 hours to go

12 players still playing, 7 votes to lynch, 6 votes for night

1 vote Mockra (Rashan)
2 votes Ruse (Omtose, Shadow)


9 have not voted: D'riss, Galain, Hood's Path, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Silanah, Thyrllan.

[Mockra]

thanks, PS!

This post has been edited by Mockra: 29 January 2009 - 04:27 AM

[Meanas]

I am torn. I really feel that we shouldn't let Mockra and D'riss live due to shit that I have already gone over and am to tired to do again.

I don't really see the case for Ruse. I have been over his posts several times and I just didn't see something that jumped out at me. I did not like how D'riss countered and I find him to be the more suspicious of the two. But honestly I could go either way. I am going to bed and probably won't be back before the day runs out. So

Vote D'riss


Night all.

[Silanah]

Vote Mockra
I have had suspicions of him being a symp for a long time and feel he is currently the best suspect.
Getting too close to night for my liking and I am going to be going offline in about 4 or so hours so I wont be here before day times out if it does.

Edit: Bold

This post has been edited by Silanah: 29 January 2009 - 04:42 AM

[Mockra]

Night Meanas...

I guess Silanah's gonna be all alone again, because i'll be heading to bed fairly soon too

I'll be back 2.5 hours befroe deadline.
not gonna vote now, because I don't see any strong candidacies.

EDIT: cross-post, as always,

This post has been edited by Mockra: 29 January 2009 - 04:40 AM

[Mockra]

Sil, care to share your thoughts as to who i'm symping?

and you need to bold that vote for it to count, btw

[Path-Shaper]

This is day 6, 9.5 hours to go

12 players still playing, 7 votes to lynch, 6 votes for night

2 votes Mockra (Rashan,Silanah)
2 votes Ruse (Omtose, Shadow)
1 vote D'riss (Meanas)


7 have not voted: D'riss, Galain, Hood's Path, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Thyrllan.

[Shadow]

Checkin in. Not much going on. I am leaving my vote where it is. anyone around?

[Mockra]

not really, was doing somethign else, thread was minimized
now i'm going to bed.

i'll be back 2.5 hours before deadline

if you decide to vote me off before then, good luck team inno!

[Galain]

OK, sorry for my scarceness. It's explainable but I won't bore you with that here.

My thoughts on the reveal and counter-reveal are that: the supposed wisdom I've been told is that you lynch the both of them, starting with the initial revealer. However, I'm not sure this works as well as it should when there is no CF.

My worry, however, is that one of them, probably D'riss, could be a symp, and that he could be playing on the perceived wisdom to ensure that we lynch two people, one of them innocent (I think of Mockra as perhaps innocent at the moment due to the way he's been acting recently), which would buy time for more kills if they're a psycho symp, or more conversions if they're symping any remaining necros.

I'd like to steer away from voting symps, I don't think it really helps, and as long as people continue to flag likely symps it shouldn't be a problem.

But that leaves the question of where to drop my vote. I haven't been able to keep on top of the thread anywhere near as much as I would have hoped. I see Ruse is the highest out of everyone else, but I wouldnt have any reason to vote for him save his occassional abrasiveness. I'm a little stuck.

[Ruse]

Shadow, on Jan 28 2009, 06:05 PM, said:

Omtose, on Jan 28 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

Oki, I caught up.

two things need adressing:

1. the two witches. I think it is not totally fucked-up that we have 2 of them, operating independently, especially not since the game swelled to a gigantic size, and team inno probably already had 2 finders. All things considered, even if it is a blanket kill & recruit stop, there are also 2 possible NKs (vigs excluded) in the game, and the chance that 2 independent ones might fire theirs on the same night when things get hairy. Lastly, they'd also hinder the Medium on account of there being no dead guy to ask answers of.

Doesn't mean that I'd legitimize both reveals, but their story is not directly conflicting either - I guess I hope our Psychic mindreader-hypnotist(s) are actively investigating them tonight.
As such, I do find it complete and utter bull to now lynch either of them to test their reveal. There's no CF to tell us anything, after all.

Also, we have to examine who would reveal like this and get away with it - we currently have lynched a psycho and one undead (probably a recruit) and then, imho, most or all necros. The Creature wouldn't reveal like this, and I doubt a final necromancer would - same for the psycho's - so that means either a recruit or a symp and neither can win the game on their own.

2. Ruse. I see you fingering a LOT of people. Casting doubt here and there - see my reaction above for a gross error (if I'm positive) or deliberate misrepresentation (if I'm negative) on your part. You've also called Mockra a symp, pushing his half reveal, now calling attention to D'riss, naming Galain and oh, wait, Silanah too, I think.

Never presenting a definate case.

I name thee symp, and since I don't have a whole lot better to do right now:

Vote Ruse.

Why are you voting for a suspected symp? Who is he protecting? Who hasn't he fingered. (get your mind out of the gutter!)

Its just OMGUS
Ive been sying he and galain are scum from day one.
Dunno where he gets me "fingering ALOT of people from"
More thumb sucking

[Ruse]

Shadow, on Jan 29 2009, 12:04 AM, said:

You know what.

vote Ruse

I feel like we are being forced to choose between D'riss and Mockra. In Mafia when I feel like I am being pushed I try to push back. I didn't like the Ruse reaction to the reveal. Mockra has pretty much convinced me he isn't scum. Omtose has had a good gut so far, and that statement that Ruse made about Omtose kind of fading off, makes no sense as the only fading Omtose did was in day 2. He has been front and center with discussion usually. Even if D'riss or Mockra are symps... their just symps. we can win with them alive. We need to kill Killers and Necros. i am out. I will try to be back before a lynch..(I might have a window in a few hours) but if not, I am happy with this vote.

At least make some effort at a case...this is all bulshit.

My "reaction to the reveal" ?
What the fuck are you talking about exactly?

Vote Shadow

Because I dont like your reaction to my reaction the the reveal, two can play at this nonesense.

edit - missingspace

This post has been edited by Ruse: 29 January 2009 - 08:19 AM

[Omtose]

Ruse, on Jan 29 2009, 08:59 AM, said:

Shadow, on Jan 28 2009, 06:05 PM, said:

Omtose, on Jan 28 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

Oki, I caught up.

two things need adressing:

1. the two witches. I think it is not totally fucked-up that we have 2 of them, operating independently, especially not since the game swelled to a gigantic size, and team inno probably already had 2 finders. All things considered, even if it is a blanket kill & recruit stop, there are also 2 possible NKs (vigs excluded) in the game, and the chance that 2 independent ones might fire theirs on the same night when things get hairy. Lastly, they'd also hinder the Medium on account of there being no dead guy to ask answers of.

Doesn't mean that I'd legitimize both reveals, but their story is not directly conflicting either - I guess I hope our Psychic mindreader-hypnotist(s) are actively investigating them tonight.
As such, I do find it complete and utter bull to now lynch either of them to test their reveal. There's no CF to tell us anything, after all.

Also, we have to examine who would reveal like this and get away with it - we currently have lynched a psycho and one undead (probably a recruit) and then, imho, most or all necros. The Creature wouldn't reveal like this, and I doubt a final necromancer would - same for the psycho's - so that means either a recruit or a symp and neither can win the game on their own.

2. Ruse. I see you fingering a LOT of people. Casting doubt here and there - see my reaction above for a gross error (if I'm positive) or deliberate misrepresentation (if I'm negative) on your part. You've also called Mockra a symp, pushing his half reveal, now calling attention to D'riss, naming Galain and oh, wait, Silanah too, I think.

Never presenting a definate case.

I name thee symp, and since I don't have a whole lot better to do right now:

Vote Ruse.

Why are you voting for a suspected symp? Who is he protecting? Who hasn't he fingered. (get your mind out of the gutter!)

Its just OMGUS
Ive been sying he and galain are scum from day one.
Dunno where he gets me "fingering ALOT of people from"
More thumb sucking

Yeah, you've been saying that, and made hmmm, no case at all on us. Way to prove you're right!
So, just saying for the saying? Not putting your mouth where your money is?

Now, after you dismiss my post above as OMGUS, care to point out how I'm scum, why I'm scum, what kind of scum I am, and especially where I am trying to be inconspicuous? For example, by comparing it with your own behaviour during those exact same days?

Oh, and please, while you're on it, don't ask the questions I already answered after the Kaschan lynch, I hate having to repeat myself, especially since it was a good and crystal clear defense.

Thanks in advance from yours truly,

Omtose.

[Path-Shaper]

This is day 6, 6 hours to go

12 players still playing, 7 votes to lynch, 6 votes for night

2 votes Mockra (Rashan,Silanah)
2 votes Ruse (Omtose, Shadow)
1 vote D'riss (Meanas)
1 vote Shadow (Ruse)


6 have not voted: D'riss, Galain, Hood's Path, Liosan, Mockra, Thyrllan.

[Ruse]

I dont get you people.
My reaction to the reveal?...

Seriously?....

I think Omtose and Shadow need to explain themselves.
What was so bad about my "recation the the reveal".

Being Aggressive/abrasive?
IM ALWAYS AGGRESSIVE ...

Being confused at why mockra (if inno) would reveal?
WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE?? MAKES NO SENSE. unless he is scum.

Not wanting to vote for the symps
VOTE THE SYMPS AS A LAST RESORT is all i am saying.

Please explain to me how i am all of the sudden being labelled a fucking symp...who am i protecting?
All i have been saying is that these two, D'riss and Mockra, one of them could be symps. As long as its not do or die we should perhaps go looking for killers, or at least discuss more before we have another 8 hour day.

CF doesnt matter with regards to these two anyway as they both would have turned up inno even if they were symps.

[Ruse]

Omtose, on Jan 29 2009, 08:23 AM, said:

Yeah, you've been saying that, and made hmmm, no case at all on us. Way to prove you're right!
So, just saying for the saying? Not putting your mouth where your money is?

Now, after you dismiss my post above as OMGUS, care to point out how I'm scum, why I'm scum, what kind of scum I am, and especially where I am trying to be inconspicuous? For example, by comparing it with your own behaviour during those exact same days?

Oh, and please, while you're on it, don't ask the questions I already answered after the Kaschan lynch, I hate having to repeat myself, especially since it was a good and crystal clear defense.

Thanks in advance from yours truly,

Omtose.

Your play on day one is what i didnt/dont like...we have already gone over that so wont start it up again.
Since then i have hardly ever been online when you are. I have made no cases because i have no time to make any cases.

All i have time for is commenting on what is happening right now. Having an unfortunately busy weak.

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"For example, by comparing it with your own behaviour during those exact same days?"

You cant even compare our two behaviors if you tried. Where to you get this from?...what thread have you been reading?
not this one thats for sure.


edit - added quotes

This post has been edited by Ruse: 29 January 2009 - 08:34 AM