[Mentalist]

lol
it was a good game, I won't lie.
it's just now, looking back at it, i realize we didn't stand a chance following day 2. and that hurts.
I mean, at the time, I saw it as a setback, but not a major, ZOMG, we're all gonna die type of setback.
I think I played all right up to day 4, and I walked the fine line b/w reps and Brutii up to the reveals that i've missed and had to catch up on. I may have overreacted, but hell, once I thought I was exposed, i decided to do what was best and I played the obvious spokesperson for the brutii. had I not been burdened with the extra powers (and yes, they were a burden--my play up to that point made me a VERY bad recipient for them), I may have been able to make something out of it.

teh combination of becoming a killer and having a find done on me while i was asleep and picked up an L-2 was simply lethal.
really, it was out of my hands.

[Path-Shaper]

Aye, there was that.
Maybe we should have given them to Ace, after all, but once again, that's done.

I'm going to take a short break. Getting square eyes, I really need some tea and something to do away from the screen. Will be back in 60 or 75 min or so.

[Mentalist]

you can still pass them to him, you know...

[Path-Shaper]

Twist has a request...

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Thank you if you have a few lynched players looking for another game would you be able to send them over to modcraft? I need one more person to run my game.
Also as you said I read some of Mafia 37 and holy crap that's intense and confusing...

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Hi Twist,

I saw you were reading the Mafia 37 game thread.
If you would like a behind-the-scenes view, please visit us in spoilerheaven (though what you read there, can't go out of it, naturally).

the password is: victoriouslegion

You'll be able to find spoilerheaven in the Games forum, at the top.

[Mentalist]

hmm
sorrys, i've got a lab to write still today, and then next week I have to start getting into this whole "school" thing again.....

[Mentalist]

oh, btw, when you're writing the Republican victory scene, I request Casca's ghost muttering "I told you all so"

[Mentalist]

and here comes HP fianlly telling them that they've won...

[Path-Shaper]

D'riss.

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You got my find, right? I put it back on myself.

Night!

And again:

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By the way... if Rashan is telling the truth and he got recruited during the day... nah, that's bull, right?

And if I really am naive, then I'm pissed off at my shitty role, when you gave so many cool ones out. I mean, you gave one guy the power to out all the leaders? And I got fuck all? Jesus.

Little does he know how right he is about the recruitment

[Path-Shaper]

Mentalist, on Jan 11 2009, 11:34 PM, said:

and here comes HP fianlly telling them that they've won...

HP wants to use his power, so he won't reveal.

[Path-Shaper]

Hello Morgoth!

[Path-Shaper]

Mentalist, on Jan 11 2009, 11:10 PM, said:

oh, btw, when you're writing the Republican victory scene, I request Casca's ghost muttering "I told you all so"

will do

[Morgoth]

Path-Shaper, on Jan 11 2009, 11:45 PM, said:

Hello Morgoth!

Hello ... Tapengance.

The whole dilema regarding factions being dependent on single roles is a tough one. I'm trying to work out ways for that to be avoided in my next game but the bottom line is that the moment a game climbs above a certain TDMI, there will be a chance of the game imploding because of the wrong day 1 lynch and night 1 kill..

[Path-Shaper]

Morgoth, on Jan 11 2009, 11:49 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on Jan 11 2009, 11:45 PM, said:

Hello Morgoth!

Hello ... Tapengance.

The whole dilema regarding factions being dependent on single roles is a tough one. I'm trying to work out ways for that to be avoided in my next game but the bottom line is that the moment a game climbs above a certain TDMI, there will be a chance of the game imploding because of the wrong day 1 lynch and night 1 kill..

That's a nice abbreviation/combination. It was the Tap part who waved

As for the TMDI thing... It's tough, I know that first hand now

Uff. My head hurts. I think I'll have some more to drink, then go to bed after announcing the start of night. Liosan should be able to PM me somewhere in the next 8 hours, so I can comfortably resolve stuff at work.

* fingers crossed *

[Path-Shaper]

Well, I'll call it a night, cause I could wait for ages on something that may happen just before breakfast :s

GL with the writing, Ment, and enjoy your whiskey, Morgy.
Cheers to Venge, the partner in crime if/when he stops by .

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 January 2009 - 11:08 PM

[Path-Shaper]

And Cheers to you Tapper.


It has certainly been a fun game. Now I got to go work on Morgy's and then mine again.

Mental the Predator role will be seriously different from what Morgy had. It was a last minute addition that I didn't have balanced out. This time around it won't be. There will be a proper counter to it.

[Gavin]

First up: Very well played Ment, you were doing a great job there, pity no one was listening, but I really appreciated your efforts. I couldn't say much to help out unfortunately.

Also my saying I didn't know numbers and had no clue who was in my team. It was for the benefit of the recruits. The day before I had said I suspected Serc and Fener. When I heard about we'd be getting extra powers I presumed there would be kills/Vigs for my recruits so I wanted to make it clear I had no idea who was in my team in case they looked at my suspects and thought lets go for them. Serc I didnt' spot at all as my team. (Well played Serc BTW)


Looks like I missed all the interesting role discussion, the high rated games are always very hard to balance first time. Also I'm sure if it started again things would end up differently. Kesso has been lucky with Thyrllan. Although after that Fener was out in the open enough to be spotted. I'm sure Julii would go differently another time. And obviously Omtose was Modkilled.

There's probably a few roles tweaks I'd change. What was the thinking behind the Julii two leaders fighting it out? Its just their team is so small to start with, the infighting seems like a hinderance. I'd think about removing that the team was originally only 3 in size, and two happy to vote for each other. Seems a bit rough.

Obviously I'd get rid of the automatic reveal on Brutus obviously. Its always going to lead to Brutii's downfall, and Brutus doesn't have any chance to see past Day 3 unless he's extremely lucky and MA gets killed. I think everyone should start the game with a fair chance of making it to the end game if they play well. Otherwise it seems against the whole point of playing.

So any role that dies day 2 (Ment!) or whatever I think should be rethought in general. I know there is something for historical/canon accurancy in some games, but its still a game and people know it, so it should err towards game fun, rather than accuracy to a role.

And although I know Republican don't get to know whose in their teams, but both Rashan and Korlat seem awefully useful. 4 BPs? And every day Korlat gets to Guard 2 people, and then recruit both? Being able to guard two people and then recruit them is really really good.
Then there is Cicero and all the other finds and such. Not to mention the large numbers of Republicans. But the other teams haven't done so well so they may be ok.

Basically for me, I'd leave Republican probably as is. Maybe spread out Rashans BP's, give him a lynch and a normal BP, and then maybe the guys with no vote counting a BP or something. Not having a vote is pretty weak so a BP would help them out.

Julii - I'd remove the infighting and just have recruiting pass down from MA to Octavian. And remove the auto find on Brutus.

Brutii - Not sure if change is required once the auto find goes. Perhaps limit Brutus to only 2 or 3 recruit attempts and then if Brutus dies give the team 2 or 3 Vigs if they have 2 or more recruits, or one Night killer if they have less, this to balance out the Julii recruiting passing down.

This way you have one team that recruits well, one team that has more kills and one team with good roles and plenty of numbers.

[Mentalist]

Thanks, Gavin
It feels stupid now, because I realize I was telling a swarm ofRepublicans about the dangers of Republicans getting numbers...

the double reveal hit me hard, i won't lie.
and the way i've played the game up to that point left me in a very bad position to be the team saviour with kills/recruits.

ah well, I don't regret playing like I did, knowing what I knew I still believe it was the best I could've done.

[Gavin]

Sure I think we did the best we could under the circumstances, I feel rather sorry for JA and Yellow both who got recruited and its gone horribly wrong for them.
D'riss especially.

JA will be recruited tomorrow I imagine, his loyalties aren't obvious so seems a good target for Korlat to recruit up. Serc is doing well staying undercover, so it might be a long series of days as they try to find him. They'll probably vote Ruse tomorrow now he's been outed as Juli. Either that or Emur for being a suspected Brutii.

[Path-Shaper]

Twist over in Modcraft is looking for a few good players or at least one.

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Thank you if you have a few lynched players looking for another game would you be able to send them over to modcraft? I need one more person to run my game.
Also as you said I read some of Mafia 37 and holy crap that's intense and confusing...

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Hi Twist,

I saw you were reading the Mafia 37 game thread.
If you would like a behind-the-scenes view, please visit us in spoilerheaven (though what you read there, can't go out of it, naturally).

the password is: victoriouslegion

You'll be able to find spoilerheaven in the Games forum, at the top.

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I posted your request in the spoilers so that people could see. So far Mental has said that he has school starting. I myself also have school starting. When is your start date for the game?

Liosan

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Hiya, did I get overly enthoussiastic when clearing out my PM box, or have yuo not yet submitted a night action?

Cheers,

Tapper

I used all my powers, but if you want to give me more... that would be cool heh.

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:snigger: I will let Tapper know. Lots of stuff is going on in SH as you can image. Don't worry about it.

Vengeance

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 January 2009 - 03:40 AM

[Mentalist]

wait, weren't we waiting for him?