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#221 User is offline   HoosierDaddy 

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 07:04 PM

Which EPIC fail, Macros?
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 07:07 PM

filthy cheating dane

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 07:08 PM

The picture still stands, Mac.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 07:10 PM

You've obviously editted your post to make it sound like I wrote something about Erikson, then copied it. Silly Macros :p
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 07:19 PM

yes, my secret appointment to a moderators position has finally paid off.
Now off to invade poland!
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 07:21 PM

View PostMacros, on Mar 31 2009, 02:19 PM, said:

yes, my secret appointment to a moderators position has finally paid off.
Now off to invade poland!


Yeah, I reckon it's a good idea to make simple moves at first. Maybe wait awhile for the land war in Asia, though.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 08:42 PM

View PostAptorian, on Mar 31 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

I heard that in the final book Goodkind pulls one hell of a Deus Ex Machina and reintroduces the Boxes of Orden. Richard more or less becomes a god and he creates a non-magic world and a magic world. All the anti-magic jerks that doesn't understand Richards crazy logic get sent to this alternative world (earth) and the rest of the world gets to live on... then Richard probably goes off to be a woodsman again or some complete crap like that.


Ha. Terrible.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 08:45 PM

View PostRodeoRanch, on Mar 31 2009, 01:42 PM, said:

View PostAptorian, on Mar 31 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

I heard that in the final book Goodkind pulls one hell of a Deus Ex Machina and reintroduces the Boxes of Orden. Richard more or less becomes a god and he creates a non-magic world and a magic world. All the anti-magic jerks that doesn't understand Richards crazy logic get sent to this alternative world (earth) and the rest of the world gets to live on... then Richard probably goes off to be a woodsman again or some complete crap like that.


Ha. Terrible.


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Posted 31 March 2009 - 08:49 PM

Ummm, actually I expect it will.

I certainly wouldn't want to mess with him :p

If not, he can always call on every single other person on the forum, who will come to his defence :p

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Grief is right (until we abolish capitalism).
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 08:54 PM

View PostGrief, on Mar 31 2009, 01:49 PM, said:

Ummm, actually I expect it will.

I certainly wouldn't want to mess with him :p

If not, he can always call on every single other person on the forum, who will come to his defence :p


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Posted 31 March 2009 - 09:55 PM

Possibly even unknown to you... :p

Anyhow. The Yearded One.

I know it's all a matter of personal taste, but I don't get the love for him. His skills aren't all that great - I mean, I dislike Bakker intensely, but at least he writes competently. The Author Tract aspects of Goodkind's work really gets on my tits too.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 10:43 PM

Iirc, apples weren't poisonous at all - people from the midlands were just dumb shits who thought all red fruits and vegetables were poisonous...

The last book...oh, it was pure trash. I love that part where Dick falls face-first in the mud right before Darken Rahl sees him chained up in the Jai Alai (whatever it's called) camp. "Oops, fell on my face, now it's covered with mud and you can't tell who I am...."

His psycho face-painting and subsequent smackdown of Rahl's squad in the rugby match was the only thing I slightly enjoyed in that whole book.

Jagang DOES capture Kahlan, iirc. He almost rapes her, but not quite....

Dick does create a separate world for those, like Rahl's bastards, who are immune to magic and are destroying it somehow - or just wanna live w/out magic. Jagang gets put in a collar thing and killed by Nicci (I think) - who he RAPED RAPED RAPED AND RAPED AGAIN....

Then there's the fairytale epilogue where every (well, a lot of them) loose end Goodkind forgot to tie up is supposed to be concluded. Basically, it's Dick and Kahlan's wedding reception and as they're walking through the streets they meet with all the secondary characters that didn't make it into the last book. The secondary characters are all happy and everything worked out great for them...yays!

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:02 PM

View PostSlumgullion Spitteler, on Mar 31 2009, 06:43 PM, said:

Iirc, apples weren't poisonous at all - people from the midlands were just dumb shits who thought all red fruits and vegetables were poisonous...

The last book...oh, it was pure trash. I love that part where Dick falls face-first in the mud right before Darken Rahl sees him chained up in the Jai Alai (whatever it's called) camp. "Oops, fell on my face, now it's covered with mud and you can't tell who I am...."

His psycho face-painting and subsequent smackdown of Rahl's squad in the rugby match was the only thing I slightly enjoyed in that whole book.

Jagang DOES capture Kahlan, iirc. He almost rapes her, but not quite....

Dick does create a separate world for those, like Rahl's bastards, who are immune to magic and are destroying it somehow - or just wanna live w/out magic. Jagang gets put in a collar thing and killed by Nicci (I think) - who he RAPED RAPED RAPED AND RAPED AGAIN....

Then there's the fairytale epilogue where every (well, a lot of them) loose end Goodkind forgot to tie up is supposed to be concluded. Basically, it's Dick and Kahlan's wedding reception and as they're walking through the streets they meet with all the secondary characters that didn't make it into the last book. The secondary characters are all happy and everything worked out great for them...yays!

The rugby game or whatever was definitely entertaining. As for the ending, it's a reception for his torturer-rapist-dominatrix buddy, and he happens to meet...well, no one. In fact, the ending sucked huge balls. Complete cop-out IMO.

That was my opinion even when I liked the series years before I read anyone good (that is, I also though stuff like Harry Potter was well-written).

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:52 PM

:p I don't remember that part about the dominatrix's receptionist.....

"I'm sorry, our torture sessions are booked clear until next month. Can I offer you some complimentary nipple-clamps as consolation..."
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 12:02 AM

durr reception* haha. fix'd.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 12:06 AM

Oh, right, it was Cara's wedding to the soldier guy. My bad....see how close a reading I did of this monumental contribution to the canon of fantasy lit? :p
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 01:03 AM

You should be ashamed of yourself. :p
But if I made the kind of money Terry does from writing, I'd sure as hell do it. Sure, I'd rather do it and write uber-amazing, but I could accept less quality if I was a multi-millionaire from it.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 04:36 AM

hmm, when Apt combined the threads, the post synchronized themselves in chronological order.

he has, indeed made an art.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 06:02 AM

View PostMentalist, on Mar 31 2009, 09:36 PM, said:

hmm, when Apt combined the threads, the post synchronized themselves in chronological order.

he has, indeed made an art.


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Posted 01 April 2009 - 08:02 AM

View PostAssail, on Apr 1 2009, 07:02 AM, said:

View PostMentalist, on Mar 31 2009, 09:36 PM, said:

hmm, when Apt combined the threads, the post synchronized themselves in chronological order.

he has, indeed made an art.


Apt is ugly. His lone eye does not have the depth perception needed to make art.


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