[Terez]

I don't remember it, and I actually liked that series...

[Lisheo]

Finished Brisinger-shit... Ugh... That was a waste of almost a day of my life lol...
Well, its nice he rips of the burning sword in the Belgariad...
What a terrible book.

[lord of tragedy]

sparhawk? the ending was something about now having the blue rose they could go back in time to fix everything. i think it was some kind of postmodern joke ending or something. nothing could be that seriously shite. imagine writing that and thinking"wow this is fucking brilliant". he's a sick man eddings.

[Terez]

Like I said, I liked it when I read it. I just don't remember it. I remember the blue rose. And I do remember being disappointed that it was essentially the same story as the Belgariad. But I liked that praying dude. What was his name? The knight that prayed every time he killed someone? He was a funny chap...

Beric! Wasn't it?

[lord of tragedy]

i'd forgotten about him. i liked the idea of a pantheon of gods too. i always remeber being struck by the way the series opened with sparhawk watching the women on their way to the well to draw water. i don't know why, and nothing else was, but i always thought that particular part was beautiful. kept me reading for a while longer anyway. ahem. i've said too much

[polishgenius]

lord of tragedy, on Oct 15 2008, 02:35 PM, said:

sparhawk? the ending was something about now having the blue rose they could go back in time to fix everything. i think it was some kind of postmodern joke ending or something. nothing could be that seriously shite. imagine writing that and thinking"wow this is fucking brilliant". he's a sick man eddings.

Wasn't that Althalus? That might just be the worst ending of anything I've ever read. Not to mention it didn't even pretend to deal with the paradoxical indications of travelling back in time to fix the problem before it began.

In Tamuli it was basically that the blue rose turned out to be the elemental force for good trapped in stone form (basically the Prophecy and the Orb from Belgariad rolled into one), which fused with Sparhawk to make him some uber-powerful chosen one who could defeat the bad guys. I think.

[lord of tragedy]

polishgenius, on Oct 15 2008, 03:44 PM, said:

lord of tragedy, on Oct 15 2008, 02:35 PM, said:

sparhawk? the ending was something about now having the blue rose they could go back in time to fix everything. i think it was some kind of postmodern joke ending or something. nothing could be that seriously shite. imagine writing that and thinking"wow this is fucking brilliant". he's a sick man eddings.

Wasn't that Althalus? That might just be the worst ending of anything I've ever read. Not to mention it didn't even pretend to deal with the paradoxical indications of travelling back in time to fix the problem before it began.

In Tamuli it was basically that the blue rose turned out to be the elemental force for good trapped in stone form (basically the Prophecy and the Orb from Belgariad rolled into one), which fused with Sparhawk to make him some uber-powerful chosen one who could defeat the bad guys. I think.

i think your right polish. the tamuli was crap too though. wasn't there a quote on the blurb from the times that said "sparhawk is the best? realised figure in modern fantasy". top notch journalism.

[polishgenius]

Never trust a coverquote, unless you already know the reputation of the person quoting it as good.
Which for me is Neil Gaiman, GRRM, and SFX magazine (as I read their reviews anyway).

They're often made up on demand, especially the ones by other authors.

[lord of tragedy]

yeah it was donaldson's quote about erikson and slack jawed awe that caught my eye and turned me on. can you read sfx on line? i like the little once monthly review section in the english guardian too. it turned me on too reynolds. strangely enough they've only ever reviewed gardens of the moon. maybe its their policy to ignore big series of books?

[Terez]

It was RJ's quote that made me read GRRM.

[lord of tragedy]

Terez, on Oct 15 2008, 04:40 PM, said:

It was RJ's quote that made me read GRRM.

and i'll bet your sorry now oops!

[polishgenius]

lord of tragedy, on Oct 15 2008, 04:39 PM, said:

yeah it was donaldson's quote about erikson and slack jawed awe that caught my eye and turned me on. can you read sfx on line? i like the little once monthly review section in the english guardian too. it turned me on too reynolds. strangely enough they've only ever reviewed gardens of the moon. maybe its their policy to ignore big series of books?

SFX can be read online but you mostly only get the reviews and you have to check the specific review sections regular because the site is a steaming pile of awful and any reviews beyond the first page of each section get jumbled up with the reviews for everything else and there is no search function. I don't know why. Hopefully they'll change up soon, as their fellow Future magazine, total film, have recently revamped their site.

[lord of tragedy]

yeah its a bit puny alright polish. just had a look. it mentioned a book called acacia. might try it out. ever heard of it? i'm so desperate for something to read i'm reading talon of the silver shite...................

[polishgenius]

lord of tragedy, on Oct 15 2008, 05:22 PM, said:

yeah its a bit puny alright polish. just had a look. it mentioned a book called acacia. might try it out. ever heard of it? i'm so desperate for something to read i'm reading talon of the silver shite...................

I started Acacia and it' reads okay, but not great. It got put aside in favour of others, read into that what you will.

My personal recommendation for something to read is, if you haven't yet read The Scar by China Mieville, do. It's not new though so you probably have.

[lord of tragedy]

tried to read peridot station once. i think thats what it was called. something about post apocalyptic london. didn't get it all so i've steeered clear ever since. i'll give it a try though. only came to sf late in life. tended to read pure fantasy but i love dune and reynolds. the gap series not so much. good space opera is hard to find.

[polishgenius]

lord of tragedy, on Oct 15 2008, 11:11 PM, said:

tried to read peridot station once. i think thats what it was called. something about post apocalyptic london. didn't get it all so i've steeered clear ever since. i'll give it a try though. only came to sf late in life. tended to read pure fantasy but i love dune and reynolds. the gap series not so much. good space opera is hard to find.

Perdido Street Station is alright (it's not actually London, although New Crobuzon is certainly heavily based on it it's its own - and very original - universe) but it's not a patch on The Scar, imo. Same universe, but it's Discworld-type in that the books are only connected by the shared setting.




You read Banks or Hamilton, for space opera? Hamilton can be hard to get into for the sheer size of his books, but he's good.


We seem to have hijacked this thread.

[Salt-Man Z]

polishgenius, on Oct 15 2008, 05:58 PM, said:

it it's its

I wouldn't have thought this possible, but there it is.

[Terez]

Well, there is some missing punctuation...

[lord of tragedy]

hijacking is fine i think. i actually started the thread. not too sure about the etiquette. read a hamilton book once, something about al capone turning up in the future. it was bad.

back on thread, kevin anderson. worst sci fi writer of all time.

[councilor]

i've always felt that jordan could be a bit long winded. i mean, the world biulding is impressive, i can almost see the environment, but sometimes it's a case of not being able to see what's going on for all the damn trees in the way.