[Kaschan]

we tried that metod last time we played this. then one of the other teams NKed most of the other during the nights and ended up cruising to victory.

I'm not convinced it's a good way to play. Besides, how would we go about "ferreting out" the other Corleones? you see a don-like figure we could pressure to elicit the protests of his loyal followers? because, really, that's all we can work with right now.

Regarding my earlier comment about Meanas--in merc games, it's quite common for a symp to try to send a subtle signal to his "master" (don). Of course, as we all know, DiBs has the subtlety of a runaway train, so I wouldn't put it past him to label his don among teh numerous accusations he made early on...

Edit: that was @ Tennes, btw.

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 08 October 2008 - 02:01 PM

[Gamelon]

It could be argued either way, Kaschan. But I am for leveling the field, although some families might go for the known, instead of bargaining on the unknown.

[Tennes]

Korvalain, on Oct 8 2008, 02:59 PM, said:

Tennes, on Oct 8 2008, 04:41 PM, said:

All the pressure and attention is on the Corleones. They're down to four already. Would it be a good plan to try and ferret out the last few and just remove them from the game entirely? One less family to worry about....

It doesn't matter what I am: yesterday Barghast voted me thinking I'm Corleone, so he's very much probably not one. So if we want to "level the field", he's my target. Plus, i have feelings he's FM, even if noone agrees.

I'm quite new to this style of game, I'm used to the standard good guys vs. bad guys set up. So I'm asking from a tactical point of view, why would you want to level the field? Surely that would be helping the corleones? Why would you want to do anything that is an advantage to them if you're not one of them?

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If you want to keep hunting Corleones, look at Ruse. When a second vote appeared on someone who's probably not Corleone, he jumped on the voter (and a bit on me too). So that would be the best choice.

Noted. I will have to read some more before I decide on it though.

Gamelon, on Oct 8 2008, 03:00 PM, said:

So Meanas is gone. I wonder why?


I still think Barghast is suspicious for being so nice to the bastard Telas. I don't know what he was thinking, but I've got a gut feeling he's up to no good. That he is FM is just a guess, not a case, but it's an educated guess. It might be wrong, it might be right. But the playing nice with Telas is what gets to me - not because it's that suspicious in itself, but because Telas got crap from everybody else basically.

vote Barghast

He didn't get any crap from me. People were only jumping on him because of his game style. He was being aggressive and that always rubs people up the wrong way. That's no reason to vote for Barghast, in fact, I'm more convinced by Korvalain's argument that he's probably not Corleone which makes me even more reluctant to vote for him.

[Gamelon]

Tennes, why would you be reluctant to vote for someone not corleone? There's only a small chance you'll hit someone in your own family, and there's always a risk you'll have to live with when choosing lynch targets. Unless you have a better idea? And do you want to take out all of corleone instead?

[Tennes]

Kaschan, on Oct 8 2008, 03:00 PM, said:

we tried that metod last time we played this. then one of the other teams NKed most of the other during the nights and ended up cruising to victory.

I'm not convinced it's a good way to play. Besides, how would we go about "ferreting out" the other Corleones? you see a don-like figure we could pressure to elicit the protests of his loyal followers? because, really, that's all we can work with right now.

Regarding my earlier comment about Meanas--in merc games, it's quite common for a symp to try to send a subtle signal to his "master" (don). Of course, as we all know, DiBs has the subtlety of a runaway train, so I wouldn't put it past him to label his don among teh numerous accusations he made early on...

Edit: that was @ Tennes, btw.

I don't have a number one suspect at the moment and I'm at work and have been posting/reading for about an hour now so I really have to go and come back in about 6 hours. That will still leave time before the end of the day.

[Tellan]

Yup, I agree with the hunt for the corleons plan. Barghast obviously isnt a corleon, and I really dont think he's an FM, so why are we pressuring him? Also, if Ruse symped Barg, and Barg isn't a corleon, then neither is Ruse? I think the best place to look would be on the three or four OMGUS type votes placed on Telas early yesterday. There were a couple of votes after Telas accused Korv of being corleon that had no sort of argument or anything attached to them. I think it's more than likely some of those a corleon. Emur was one of those players, but I cant find the others. I know someone quoted all the votes in one post, but I cant find it. I suggest we start looking there..

[Kaschan]

well, granted, you didn't get on till he was dead :lol

the very reasoning proposed by Korvalain makes me reluctant to vote him as well. Once again, I am unsure if he's on my team or not, but with less unknowns, the odds of lynching a teammate are getting highter.

I am unsure about barghast--while he did seem responsive to Telas, he's self-professed to be new here, so it may just be that. I mean, malazan mafia does have its... peculiarities.

[Tennes]

Gamelon, on Oct 8 2008, 03:17 PM, said:

Tennes, why would you be reluctant to vote for someone not corleone? There's only a small chance you'll hit someone in your own family, and there's always a risk you'll have to live with when choosing lynch targets. Unless you have a better idea? And do you want to take out all of corleone instead?

Pretty much. I'd just rather vote for someone I think is on another team rather than someone I think isn't on a rival team but have no clue if they're on my team. The reason I'm focusing on Corleone is that they seem to be the focus of the game so far, noone has even mentioned the other two and they're already weakened by being two down.

[Tellan]

Gamelon, on Oct 8 2008, 04:17 PM, said:

Tennes, why would you be reluctant to vote for someone not corleone? There's only a small chance you'll hit someone in your own family, and there's always a risk you'll have to live with when choosing lynch targets. Unless you have a better idea? And do you want to take out all of corleone instead?

The risk of hitting someone in your team who if you're corleon is 25%, Still pretty low, but I'd rather take that chance thinking I'm gonna hit a corleon.

Also, people have suggested Barg is maybe a Don. I think the evidence is pretty weak, but if he is, dont we rather want to keep the dons around, cos they're immune to the FM. So long as we dont lose the original Dons, the FM cant hit a faction leader.

[Korvalain]

Tellan, on Oct 8 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

I think the best place to look would be on the three or four OMGUS type votes placed on Telas early yesterday. There were a couple of votes after Telas accused Korv of being corleon that had no sort of argument or anything attached to them.

One of them was Shadow, who later backed down I'm not sure why. Maybe something was said, eitehr by Telas or someone else, that made him pause and retract.

[Gamelon]

In don't think barg is a don.

[Kaschan]

hmm.. going off what Tellan said.
At least one of the early votes could also be the FM or triad jumping on a train--nothing easier than to say "Telas is annoying me" and throw a vote--after all, they don't care about faction allegiances.
Gamelon did that, because Telas allegedly posted too much. quite frankly, I don't consider that a good reason, that was NOT why I voted for him. I mean, mafia 12 had something like 35 pgs on its first day, with 40 posts per page, and there were less people playing. and people still read it all.
And today Gamelon's happy to jump on another train in formation, because that person "was chummy with someone I didn't like".
That's pretty scummy to me, and the only "scum-like" players we should have are the FM or triad. and I'd like both of them dead.

Vote Gamelon

[Tellan]

Korvalain, on Oct 8 2008, 04:27 PM, said:

Tellan, on Oct 8 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

I think the best place to look would be on the three or four OMGUS type votes placed on Telas early yesterday. There were a couple of votes after Telas accused Korv of being corleon that had no sort of argument or anything attached to them.

One of them was Shadow, who later backed down I'm not sure why. Maybe something was said, eitehr by Telas or someone else, that made him pause and retract.

Was that after Telas changed his story from "Korv is a Korvleon to Korv is a don?". That might explain it - Suddenly he's not so sure he's defending his teammate and withdraws his vote...

[Gamelon]

Ehm, that's not correct. I clearly said I voted for Telas because he said it was okay to go against family. That he pissed me off was just a bonus. Check your facts next time Kaschan.


Edit: @ Kaschan

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 08 October 2008 - 02:33 PM

[Tellan]

Wow, 10 people online and nothing is happening.. Hope eveyone is looking for clues Has anyone found the post with all of yesterday's OMGUS votes in it? I still cant find it.

[Kaschan]

ok, I went over all of Telas' day 1 posts (quite an undertaking), and nowhere did I see him seriously talking about "going against the family", which was the reason for your vote. only thing resmbling that was his post about "if you're not with me, good, if you are, you're a stepping stone", which I doubt should have been taken seriously at any point.
one thing I HAVE overlooked was that Telas HAS referred to Meanas as "don Corleone" at one point, while he called Korv a "don" at the same time. Also, Meanas DID drop a line "I expect you'll be getting some attention from the Corleone poisoner tonight". so, it IS a possibility that someone caught that and thought it was more than just random bs talk.

[Gamelon]

I didn't see that as a joke, Kaschan, and neither should you. It's a weird thing to joke about.

Edit:
It was one of the reasons for voting for him - that he made all these comments on stuff, sowing confusion and generally being an ass, and spamming posts.

It's okay that you feel angry that your corleone buddies are diminishing, and that you might be next, but please at least try to not make it so obvious.


Edit2: added 'and'.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 08 October 2008 - 03:00 PM

[Kaschan]

granted, I was fairly confident it was DiBs. so that may have biased my reasoning.
oh well

remove vote

Vote Hood's Path

for having a grand total of three posts, promising to contribute and throwing a drive by on telas based on "gut"

Edit: glad to see you've already assumed I'm a Corleone. Means you'll stay away from my faction then.

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 08 October 2008 - 03:02 PM

[Gamelon]

Yeah, we definitely need to put pressure on the low posters. Hehe, I need to fucking put pressure on myself.

[Kaschan]

speaking of which, unless I'm heavily mistaken, Serc with his grand total on one post should be modkilled...

EDIT: Gamelon, with oyur 20 posts you're in teh mid-range... so I wouldn't worry about that. Serc's last post was roughly 22 hours before night started... this game will totally suck if we'll keep getting modkills or close to them.

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 08 October 2008 - 03:07 PM