[Korvalain]

Tellan, on Oct 8 2008, 05:33 PM, said:

Korvalain, on Oct 8 2008, 04:27 PM, said:

Tellan, on Oct 8 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

I think the best place to look would be on the three or four OMGUS type votes placed on Telas early yesterday. There were a couple of votes after Telas accused Korv of being corleon that had no sort of argument or anything attached to them.

One of them was Shadow, who later backed down I'm not sure why. Maybe something was said, eitehr by Telas or someone else, that made him pause and retract.

Was that after Telas changed his story from "Korv is a Korvleon to Korv is a don?". That might explain it - Suddenly he's not so sure he's defending his teammate and withdraws his vote...

Well, there you go then. I don't mind switching for Shadow if you want to hammer the Corleones, although for this there's even less chances of making a mistake if we vote Ruse, I mean, he was quite obvious this morning.

[Kaschan]

hmm
I want to get the Serc situation resolved before I start leaning one way or the other. if he's dead, I want his CF to see how it reflects on the faction balance.

[Gamelon]

That reminds me, I have to re read posts...

[Fener]

Ok I am back and I see that I missed a lot. To lose Dibs and Dkt on the same day/night is funny.

I am really suspicious of those that came in like hoods path and just dropped a quick vote.

I think that there was another one who hadn't posted hardly at all then came in and vote. I am going to go back and look.


DIBS

[Shadow]

Tellan, on Oct 8 2008, said:

Korvalain, on Oct 8 2008, 04:27 PM, said:

Tellan, on Oct 8 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

I think the best place to look would be on the three or four OMGUS type votes placed on Telas early yesterday. There were a couple of votes after Telas accused Korv of being corleon that had no sort of argument or anything attached to them.

One of them was Shadow, who later backed down I'm not sure why. Maybe something was said, eitehr by Telas or someone else, that made him pause and retract.

Was that after Telas changed his story from "Korv is a Korvleon to Korv is a don?". That might explain it - Suddenly he's not so sure he's defending his teammate and withdraws his vote...

clearly you do not read enough!

Shadow, on Oct 8 2008, said:

Korvalain, on Oct 8 2008, 07:30 AM, said:

OK, after a coffee I still can't believe Dibs would have gone so strongly against the suspected Corleones if he was one. Not unless he knew he could make it clear to his team eventually who he was.

I don't think he was the don (from experience and personal opinion, smart dons lay low), could he have been the poisoner hoping his don would bail him out if he got in a bind? Maybe that's what Barghast did, sending signals to his team to not attack Telas. That explains why it was so hard and took so much time to get him lynched, and why Shadow took off his vote a bit after.

That would make Barghast don Vito Corleone, and Shadow a family member. Anything else is too... reckless to imagine, even for Dibs.

I removed my vote, because Telas actually made a case and I might have gone with it if he had not then tried to buddy up with you and change the focus to other players. Am rather surprised that Telas was Corleone! Glad about it too as that is not my family and hence one less threat to my don.

To make it clear:

My initial vote on Telas was OMGUS, then when he made a (decentish day1) case on Korv, I removed my vote on him and then said I would wait for Korv's response and then my internet connection died on me and I only got back online hours later.

When I got back there was a lot to catch up on and while catching up I noticed that Telas had changed his attitude, to me it appeared that when his attempt at a lynch on Korv went south he tried to buddy up with Korv and attempted to make everyone go looking elsewhere (I could have been giving Dibs to much credit though ). So I voted the bastard!

[Korvalain]

What case? That I was a don? That our point exactly...

[Path-Shaper]

In regards to the Serc situation, i have pm'ed our missing player but will leave the decision to the Norwegian, who cant be with us at the moment due to health reasons. So assume Serc to be still alive until further notice.

@fener - antagonising newly reborn mods is a dangerous game

[Fener]

Naked, you are naked sir

I see london, I see france, I see Mental underpants

[Tellan]

No problem Shadow, I just wanted the names of the people who dropped votes on Telas early game.

HP is looking pretty suspicious. A grand total of 3 out of 500+ posts, one of which was a vote. Could the mods please give us an update on the Serc situation?

[Korvalain]

Tellan, on Oct 8 2008, 06:26 PM, said:

No problem Shadow, I just wanted the names of the people who dropped votes on Telas early game.

Oh, stop with the pressure, you're gonna hurt him!

[Korvalain]

Fener, on Oct 8 2008, 06:25 PM, said:

Naked, you are naked sir

I see london, I see france, I see Mental underpants

And the hairiest is not the one we thought!

[Shadow]

Korvalain, on Oct 8 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

What case? That I was a don? That our point exactly...

His case about you either being a don or being Corleone. So far as a day 1 cases go it was better then most and made my existing vote pointless.....

Tellan, on Oct 8 2008, 05:26 PM, said:

No problem Shadow, I just wanted the names of the people who dropped votes on Telas early game.

HP is looking pretty suspicious. A grand total of 3 out of 500+ posts, one of which was a vote. Could the mods please give us an update on the Serc situation?

Where is that "warning cross-post" button when we need it!

[Korvalain]

Shadow, on Oct 8 2008, 06:33 PM, said:

Korvalain, on Oct 8 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

What case? That I was a don? That our point exactly...

His case about you either being a don or being Corleone. So far as a day 1 cases go it was better then most and made my existing vote pointless.....

I understand, I don't really want to vote for you.

I'm actually toying with Tellan right now. He's been there all day, posting a lot, putting pressure around but never really seriously, participating without showing anything. Waiting in security.

[Emurlahn]

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 09:19 PM, said:

Fuck it,
vote telas

We need to lynch, no exceptions

Kaschan, on Oct 7 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

that's the spirit!

you better not be on my team, Telas
Vote telas

stupid board, where you can't just ctrl+b....

Edit: whoa, people are showing up now...

Here are the two votes that I am most unahppy about, explanation wise. Especially considering they were L-1 and hammer votes.

Hello. Apologies for not being on, school ect, as I explained before bed. I am here for a grand total of 5 minutes, so again I apologize, but then I must leave for the next 2 hours. Anyway, I saw someone acussing me of not giving reasons, so im gonna quickly defend against that. I have also quoted what I find to be the most suspicious votes.

My reasons:

I didnt understand what he was up to, and it was worrying the hell out of me.
I suspected him(as I believe I stated) of being FM/Triad taking a gamble, that, if it worked, he would not be under suspicion for ages. Turns out I was wrong.

Now, im gonna re-read when I get back, in two hours, see you then, until then, im here for five more minutes.

[Emurlahn]

Hood's Path, on Oct 7 2008, 07:48 PM, said:

Yawn, a nice break. What to do, what to do.
Telas, based on my gut instinct, I find it hard to trust you. Thereby,

Vote Telas

Sorry mate, but your case on Korvalain is pretty good as well. I'm off now to work....so much for returning from vacation =.=

Shadow, on Oct 7 2008, 08:48 PM, said:

I distinctly remember Telas saying he did not mind dying.
I feel though that since then there has been a subtle shift in his behaviour and playing style since then and I get the impression that he does actually want to survive the day.

Besides those points above, I got the distinct impression he was twisting the meaning of a couple of peoples posts...
so Vote Telas

And putting up with another day of his spam and flying accusations going around in every direction, while provocative is painful enough especially with slow and frustrating internet connections. I doubt I could survive another day of it!

Noticed these two as well.

Edit: Anyhow, ive got to go now. See you all in two hours.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 08 October 2008 - 03:54 PM

[D'riss]

Do we really have 4 votes on someone this early in the day?

[Korvalain]

No, he's looking at yesterday, at the votes he finds "suspicious"

He forgot to mention what he means by "suspicious" in a merc/FM/Cult game, though


edit: I'm not making fun or undermining him, by the way, just saying it's hard for me to agree or disagree with him

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 08 October 2008 - 04:03 PM

[Emurlahn]

Back. Apparently theres an art exhebition, so badminton isnt on. Could have told me that last week
Or maybe they did

Anyway, what I mean by suspicious, is not giving explanations or anything. Just sneaking in. Now, even just a "I dont think he's in the same clan as me" would have done fine. Revealing completely nothing of why you voted, as Kaschan states his intent was. Well, fine, not revealing everything about yourself is fine. But since we didnt even know that much about him, since he wasnt that trustable for whatever he said anything, a little explanation wouldnt be amiss. I dislike the fact that later, if questioned they can just turn around and say "Oh, I was voting for the sake of it" etc, or that nothing can be found out about them. I dont trust people that I cant figure out a thing about. It makes me edgy. Im gonna read up today now.

[Fener]

Path-Shaper, on Oct 8 2008, 01:36 PM, said:

it is day 2 You have 31.5 hours left.

There are 18 players remaining: Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Korvalain, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Shadow, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn,Tellan,Tennes, Thyrllan

10 votes are needed for a lynch
9 votes are needed to go to night

1 vote for Barghast (Korvalain)
1 vote for Tellan (Mockra)
1 vote for Mockra (Ruse)

18 players have not voted: Omtose, Serc, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Shadow, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn,Tellan,Tennes, Thyrllan

Gamelon, on Oct 8 2008, 03:00 PM, said:

So Meanas is gone. I wonder why?


I still think Barghast is suspicious for being so nice to the bastard Telas. I don't know what he was thinking, but I've got a gut feeling he's up to no good. That he is FM is just a guess, not a case, but it's an educated guess. It might be wrong, it might be right. But the playing nice with Telas is what gets to me - not because it's that suspicious in itself, but because Telas got crap from everybody else basically.

vote Barghast

Kaschan, on Oct 8 2008, 03:30 PM, said:

hmm.. going off what Tellan said.
At least one of the early votes could also be the FM or triad jumping on a train--nothing easier than to say "Telas is annoying me" and throw a vote--after all, they don't care about faction allegiances.
Gamelon did that, because Telas allegedly posted too much. quite frankly, I don't consider that a good reason, that was NOT why I voted for him. I mean, mafia 12 had something like 35 pgs on its first day, with 40 posts per page, and there were less people playing. and people still read it all.
And today Gamelon's happy to jump on another train in formation, because that person "was chummy with someone I didn't like".
That's pretty scummy to me, and the only "scum-like" players we should have are the FM or triad. and I'd like both of them dead.

Vote Gamelon

Kaschan, on Oct 8 2008, 04:01 PM, said:

granted, I was fairly confident it was DiBs. so that may have biased my reasoning.
oh well

remove vote

Vote Hood's Path

for having a grand total of three posts, promising to contribute and throwing a drive by on telas based on "gut"

Edit: glad to see you've already assumed I'm a Corleone. Means you'll stay away from my faction then.

D'riss, on Oct 8 2008, 04:53 PM, said:

Do we really have 4 votes on someone this early in the day?

Actually so far today we have 5 votes tossed out. Starting off strong.

[Gamelon]

I don't see the Ruse thing bth. Anyone care to explain it to me?