[Emurlahn]

2 votes for Barghast (Korvalain, Gamelon)
1 vote for Tellan (Mockra)
1 vote for Mockra (Ruse)
1 vote for Hood's Path(Kaschan)

There's a list of current votes for whoever was wondering.

[Omtose]

Just read up to here over lunch,

Path Shaper you are on the list!!!!!

Keep your gay golden shower fantasies to yourself.

People slow the heck down on voting, we have a but load of time left.

[Kaschan]

ahem, yeah, Clearly DiBs was the one who wrote that morning scene...

and, oh, noes, someone has a single vote on him, *gasp*

seriously, though
Emu, if you read what I've said, and not just my actual voting post, I've made it quite clear for most of day 1, why i wanted to vote Telas.
a) at first, like many others, he was annoying me.
b ) then, I realized he was acting like that on purpose/because he was DiBs, so I've let him go on gathering info by provoking reactions from others.
c) then his whole "Korv is a Corleone" thing came up, and we were starting to get closer to the end of the day with 4 "cases", 2 of which (Barghast and Tellan) were weakly based on odd behaviour, and of the other two, voting for Korv would give away more about my allegiances than voting for Teals (which revealed nothing). So, I've stated about 15 times that I would vote for him before I had to leave. I admit to being slightly selfish--i wanted to see the lynch happen before I leave, because I knew I wouldn't be back before the end of day. so I made that post at omtose, since Telas was dead anyhow.
If Omtose happened to come by 30 min later, I would have voted and then left for footy, leaving himt he honour of being the hammer. all the same to me, provided we got a lynch.

[D'riss]

Omtose, on Oct 8 2008, 12:07 PM, said:

Just read up to here over lunch,

Path Shaper you are on the list!!!!!

Keep your gay golden shower fantasies to yourself.

People slow the heck down on voting, we have a but load of time left.

Do you have anything to add besides talking about getting golden with DIBS?

I do approve of the HP pressure votes to try and get him to speak up, right now I don't see any real 'cases' out there on anyone. I will be back later to try and do an enitre read-through and see what I can find.

[Kaschan]

Any word on Serc?
Like D'riss I don't see much to go on. my don's not threatened, and one of the reasons I started throwing votes out there was to try to get a reaction if I stumble onto a don.
other that that, i've got nada to go on, so sticking with HP seems to be the best option. sure, he could be of my family, but if he doesn't contribute and gets modkilled it would be more detrimental that if we take him out ourselves. I think.

[Emurlahn]

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 03:23 PM, said:

Checking in bla bla bla don't have time to post bla bla blaWill be on and able to play laterBla bla bla

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 06:28 PM, said:

The only reason I can see for him to be doing this is, If he is a don he could be letting the rest of the family see who they are by them avoiding the vote....I know weak, but what else is there

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 09:16 PM, said:

It would be funny as hell if the alt he choose already had one token

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

I am a bit put out, looking at all these cool new avatars. Mine sucks

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 09:26 PM, said:

no, it sucks. J/K.




But it is not as cool as the rest.

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 09:31 PM, said:

Don't get all pissy.

Edit: I'm sure if I changed it there would be a Modkill in my near future.lol

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 09:40 PM, said:

still waiting on Serc, Mocra, Galain, and Tennes

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 09:44 PM, said:

The one you have is pretty snazzy

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 09:51 PM, said:

It wasn't me, A bunch of kids came by and did this to me.

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 09:57 PM, said:

and before any of the powers that be freak, the kids where nice enough to save a copy of the original.

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 10:17 PM, said:

hit refresh

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

av_8001.jpg av_8002.JPG
can you see these?.


Yes I am going to add some game content.




I will wait on voting, there is a shitload of time left and there is enough presure on Telas as is.

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 10:49 PM, said:

In sostanza, ho detto un sacco di merda in italiano, solo per dimostrare che posso che parlare. In questo modo, uno FM può nemmeno pensare di sorpasso di me, perché avranno a dimostrare che si può parlare il giorno successivo. Che egli non è in grado di, a meno che egli davvero lo sanno. Possibilitá di che sono scarse.

E credo che sarebbe logico che uno FM eredita il token già presenti sul sorpasso alt. Un mod chiarimento sarebbe grande.

your post via google translate. You may want to rethink your FM defences

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

6shifwk.jpg

Omtose, on Oct 6 2008, 11:16 PM, said:

Sì, ho appena ricordato che a lui.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 02:57 AM, said:

Well I'm here, just wasn't in me alt duds

[Emurlahn]

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 03:01 AM, said:

I concur that all those roles may be in play, but not all in the same families.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 03:03 AM, said:

I think he said he was from one of the families, not sure what he said also. I will go look now.

We can finally look up user posts.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 03:07 AM, said:

I just tried to look at all of Korvies post, all the forum will let you see is the last four. Big time bummer.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 03:20 AM, said:

Just tried again, I still only get the last 4, I will check a few other browsers and skins

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 03:27 AM, said:

Found the problem, It was between the keyboard and the chair.


I was clicking on the avatar and going into the user profile. I didn't know there was a dropdown menu attached to the user name

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 03:41 AM, said:

Well i don't see the slip. The slip every one is ltalking about seams to be in response to what someone else said. But am ready to vote for him just for the RPing

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 03:55 AM, said:

I guess I see it, But why don't those time stamps make any sense?...

I'm going to bed. Night

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 08:17 PM, said:

I'm here and reading up

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

Fuck me. That sucked. An hours worth of reading and I gave up halfway thru reading todays posts.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 09:19 PM, said:

Fuck it,
vote telas

We need to lynch, no exceptions

[Emurlahn]

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 09:24 PM, said:

Up your's driss, I read all his posts, all of them

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 09:29 PM, said:

So your saying we shouldn't lynch? Why is that?

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 09:33 PM, said:

Because I hate people who plant seeded posts for shit ass cases latter.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 09:54 PM, said:

I think the main reason was his playing style. I personally think anyone who posts 70 times in the first day SHOULD have his throat stepped on. It clouds the day so bad that people(myself included) don't want to read the thread.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 09:57 PM, said:

Is it just me or does this not make a lot of sense. That works both ways.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 10:12 PM, said:

Well he was telling the truth, good for me.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 10:25 PM, said:

Let me go reread the rules. that statement doesn't make sense to me.
Edit: The Don is only immune to the FM, and he can't be recruited. He can still be guarded, healed, and Viged.

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 11:12 PM, said:

I will be around.

Omtose, on Oct 8 2008, 06:07 PM, said:

Just read up to here over lunch,

Path Shaper you are on the list!!!!!

Keep your gay golden shower fantasies to yourself.

People slow the heck down on voting, we have a but load of time left.

Right, here is EVERY SINGLE post omtose has made.
He has been posting lots, but with very little content.
His posts also seem bigger due to the fact he quotes a lot, such as, the questions he is answering.
This is all the content he has posted. At present he is the 4th highest poster of those left alive.

vote omtose

Here are my reasons:
I think he is the FM/Triad.
I think this because I'm pretty certain the FM and Triad would both try to be inconspicious. He has been posting a lot, so not in risk of lurking accusations.
He has posted enough to seem like content, but with little actual content that he could be brought up on. He has avoided any large confrontations, except a little row with D'riss, after it was obvious that he would not be lynched anyway.

It seems like very FM/Triad behaviour to me. He has been avoiding posting much content to raise anyones attention, and has been posting a lot of posts, to avoid raising suspicion that way. Now, while there are many other players that I cannot get a grasp on how they are playing(mainly due to lack of posts to judge on), but it seems to me that omtose is trying very ahrd not to make anyone suspect him. He makes it seem like he is posting a lot, when in fact he is not. He has posted little in the way of anything that could bring him into conflict with other players, save the aforementioned tiny conflict with D'riss.

Apologies for the gigantic posts.

Edited to bold the vote. I had to copy into miocrosoft word, which unbolded for some reason. Apparently there is a quote limit.

Edit: I removed all of omtose's quotes form his posts to shorten the case, and too give you a proper idea of the amount he is posting.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 08 October 2008 - 06:31 PM

[Kaschan]

ok, tried this again, worked now,
I give you the Telas Train:

Korvalain, on Oct 6 2008, 08:45 AM, said:

Well,

vote Telas

His way of thinking is so far removed from mine'a I can't imagine he's in any kind of faction. And those that don't start in a faction are those I want removed quick'a

Gamelon, on Oct 6 2008, 01:11 PM, said:

So Telas thinks it is fine to go against family? Because that is basically what he's saying. No matter if he's bad for me or not, he's bad for me. Never go against the family.

vote Telas

Edit: switched 'to' with 'for'.

Emurlahn, on Oct 6 2008, 04:43 PM, said:

Just back for a bit. Ive got a basketball game on tommorow so I wont be on until quite late. Im not sure about times and when the deadline is so Im going to:

vote Telas

because he's irritating the hell out of me. Not the best reason, but he worries me, because im really not understanding why he's doing what he's doing. Just to provoke a reaction? Well, there you go, enjoy your reaction. Heres to hoping that he's someone important taking a gamble, or at least, not on my team.

Edit: Made the vote a bit clearer.

Meanas, on Oct 7 2008, 11:16 AM, said:

Ok ...well thinking on it...i would be happy for either one of Telas or Korvalain to get lynched.

Telas's allegiance might give us allot more info than anyone else because of the amount of finger pointing and talking he has done, and if korvalain is a faction leader he will likely die tonight.

So i'll once again remove vote Vote Telas

And pray he is not on my team...

Im voting now because i am leaving soon and will not be online for a good 15 hours...so I will miss the deadline.

D'riss, on Oct 7 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

Vote Telas

Because the only option is Korv, and he has yet to earn it as much as Telas has.

Thyrllan, on Oct 7 2008, 01:00 PM, said:

Well 6 or 7 hours to go before Night and I need to head off. Will follow along and jump on the train on Telas I guess at this point, I don't see any other options around and just hope Telas is FM/Triad at best, or at worse not on my team.

Vote Telas

Tellan, on Oct 7 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

Alright, back and caught up.

Seems there's still a little bit of 'Tellan is an FM/triad' floating around. I discussed role stuff, and I dont see how that makes me one of those two roles. I'd also like to point out that 90% of those discussions were replies to what people had said before me. Someone asked about how many people could be recruited. I said one per team, Ruse corrected me and I agreed. Barghast was speaking in italian to avoid an FM. I pointed out an obvious flaw to his plan (as did a couple of other people) and put forward a better way to avoid an FM. I could go and find quotes for all this stuff, but my internet is slow and it'll take like 30 min.

The only time I speculated on roles other than that was trying to figure out Telas's role. A lot of other people did too, the only reason I'm now under suspicion is because Telas decided I looked guilty of something and tried to turn the game onto me after noone started going after Korv with him.

So without much further ado

vote Telas

I've mentioned a couple of times why I think he's the best option, and have fought with him a couple of times today. I was hoping someone better would come up, or he would expose something concrete with all his rooting around, but he's shutup and there's only a couple more hours left on the clock. I will check back in in an hour or two to see if anything's come up that requires me to change my vote.

Hood's Path, on Oct 7 2008, 02:48 PM, said:

Yawn, a nice break. What to do, what to do.
Telas, based on my gut instinct, I find it hard to trust you. Thereby,

Vote Telas

Sorry mate, but your case on Korvalain is pretty good as well. I'm off now to work....so much for returning from vacation =.=

Shadow, on Oct 7 2008, 03:48 PM, said:

I distinctly remember Telas saying he did not mind dying.
I feel though that since then there has been a subtle shift in his behaviour and playing style since then and I get the impression that he does actually want to survive the day.

Besides those points above, I got the distinct impression he was twisting the meaning of a couple of peoples posts...
so Vote Telas

And putting up with another day of his spam and flying accusations going around in every direction, while provocative is painful enough especially with slow and frustrating internet connections. I doubt I could survive another day of it!

Omtose, on Oct 7 2008, 04:19 PM, said:

Fuck it,
vote telas

We need to lynch, no exceptions

Kaschan, on Oct 7 2008, 04:22 PM, said:

that's the spirit!

you better not be on my team, Telas
Vote telas

stupid board, where you can't just ctrl+b....

Edit: whoa, people are showing up now...

ok, now I REALLY have to godo work, deadlines are looming on the horizon.. then I've got footy once again, so, may check in, may not (probably will ^ ^ ), but I'll be on in about 6 hours fo sure, for like 3-4 hours.

[Kaschan]

cross-post with Emu: the multiquote button's a wonderful thing... interesting case on Omtose.
bah, i gotta go. see y'all gents later!

[Hood's Path]

Right, morning all. Just read up, and found a vote on me. Oooh, wow.
The reason I went back on my word to"contribute more" is because I have pretty much nothing witty or convincing to say. Blame that on childhood english marks. While I did do a drive by vote on Telas, it was mainly because he was a liability, whether my clan or not, in finding the FM or TR(s). Sure, we ended up hitting a Corleone clan, but that meant the FM can infiltrate any of the clans while the RT might have already gained a follower. Hereby, my lack of posts as I've been thinking it all over.

[Galain]

hey hey

fuckin hell last time i was able to get on here was last nite, didnt think ppl wud go for Meanas, ppl seemed to be thinkin the same as him loads yesterday

its a shame Telas isnt still here windin every fucker up ha we need more anger!

and wats with all these random votes so early on in the day? altho i do kinda agree that putting pressure on ppl who jumped on the anti-Telas bandwagon yesterday, ppl like Hoods Path, may force ppl to show more of their hand

i dont think there's any evidence that really points towards Barghast being the FM, duno wat ese he could be tho, Don or grunt for all i can guess righ now

[Emurlahn]

While rooting out the corleones is one(and probably quite easy, finding who is likely to be one isnt hard) option, its not the one im inclined to follow, atm. Id prefer to find either the FM or Triad first.

[Path-Shaper]

Serc (Laxon) has been modkilled due to inactivity, he was a member of the Di Lauro familia.

it is day 2 You have 25 hours lleft.

There are 18 players remaining: Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Korvalain, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Shadow, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn,Tellan,Tennes, Thyrllan

10 votes are needed for a lynch
9 votes are needed to go to night

1 vote for Barghast (Gamelon)
2 vote for Tellan (Mockra, Korvalain)
1 vote for Mockra (Ruse)
1 vote for Hood's Path (Kaschan)
1 vote for Omtose (Emurlahn)

12 players have not voted: Omtose, Serc, Fener, Galain, Hood's Path, Liosan, Shadow, Barghast, D'riss, Tellan,Tennes, Thyrllan

[Korvalain]

Well, I'm off to bed but before I go I think I'll go and put more pressure on Tellan.

Like yesterday, I felt like Tellan spent the whole day on the verge of saying something, without really doing it. He almost takes action, then fades back. Omtose says basically nothing, and a lot of it, and I agree that's suspicious. But for Tellan I have a feeling he can do way more than that and holds back on purpose.

Take today. He was around a lot, but what did he say at the end? He wants to kinda pressure those who voted early for Telas yesterday? Why, he also voted early for Telas yesterday. Then I point out Shadow, and he quickly released the pressure, as if he changed his mind, then disappeared.

He did the same yesterday, not really following but not trying to lead. He got accused of being a potential Triad, since he spent some time early talking about them. This, in itself, is not as weak as people make it to be. It's also part of my feelings for Barghast, but it's obvious that this is not shared.

So,

remove vote, vote Tellan.

Back in a few hours.

[Korvalain]

BOOOOO LAXON BOOOOOOOOO!

Oh shit wait he's a mod right?

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on Oct 8 2008, 07:47 PM, said:

While rooting out the corleones is one(and probably quite easy, finding who is likely to be one isnt hard) option, its not the one im inclined to follow, atm. Id prefer to find either the FM or Triad first.

how would you actually go about hunting the corleones, Fm or triads?

to find FM and triads seems like it would still be too much guess work, and the corleones are probly gona lay low now knowin they're in for a bummin!

[Kaschan]

Checking in (I'm a goddamn addict, yes, I am )

BOOO, Laxon!
especially since he WAS around

[Ruse]

Heh, nice twisting of my words a while back, Korvalain.
I said nowhere that I would take charge of the debate... I said you were trying to, and that I prefer an open debate that's not steered by anyone, and no trainbuilding at the start. Not that there is such a hot debate right now that I'd want to steer it anyway. My don isn't under attack and as long as I'm mentioned every now and then, I won't get the 'he's not appearing on my radar, panic, he must be the FM!! we need to lynch/poison/vig him!' bullshit.

As for Gamelon's question, I have no clue what the Ruse thing is about as well, but I guess it will be explained by Korvalain as me being in league with Barghast. Which, if true, would incidentally totally demolish Korvalain's theory of Barghast being the FM in the first place Not that he mentioned that.... doesn't suit him, I bet. He's a rather shifty guy so far.

Now, clearly me voting against Mockra and the starting train (2 votes in 6 posts, people, with 35 hours on the clock on day 2!!), and then me attacking Korvalain is constructed as a defense of Barghast by me. Which is all very nice, but only if you ignore that my displeasure with the train was on general principle. Just as my vote against Korvalain on day 1, I might add (to keep multiple options open).

So, only if you're willing to overlook my specific attack on Mockra and the subsequent comment to Korvalain (and you can glean my personal opinion on how Korv handles the truth by my accusation against him of twisting words/meanings in my first alinea of this post) and the reasons I mentioned in my vote against Mockra, then I'll concede the point that it makes it seem that we're connected and teaming up. But then, you'd need a rather selective memory/ reading capability.

So, I'll just add that that teaming up would have been rather pre-emptive, at 2 votes (one of which then withdrawn) and 30+ hours to go? I don't like pre-emptive, and that was precisely the entire gist of my attack on Mockra/Korvalain in the first place.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 08 October 2008 - 07:23 PM