This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 18 April 2009 - 08:52 AM
Potter Six
#81
Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:50 AM
The books enjoyability increase by power from 1 to 4. Once you get to 5 you begin dealing with more adult material, and evidently because the age level has increased people wish a more complex and more difficult story-line. You get both. It just never tries to be more than it is, a sincerely complex teen novel. The 4th book remains my second favorite, only behind the 7th because I thoroughly enjoyed the 7th for what it was meant to be. Given a choice between book 7 of Harry Potter and book 5, 6, 7 or 8 of the Malazan Book of the Fallen, I would without a doubt, and without hesitation, have chosen Book 7 of Harry Potter time and time again.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#82
Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:53 AM
I'm not going to read another 4 books just because they get progressively better That's like continuously spooning turds into your mouth because you hope that after a while, they won't taste like shit any more.
I thought books 5-8 of MBotF were a let down, so meh on that one
I thought books 5-8 of MBotF were a let down, so meh on that one
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#83
Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:56 AM
Lol. Couldn't make you even if I wanted to!
However, I'd have rather read the Potter Series and everything that's come of it for me, than the Malazan series, despite my love of the MBotF.
However, I'd have rather read the Potter Series and everything that's come of it for me, than the Malazan series, despite my love of the MBotF.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#84
Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:59 AM
HoosierDaddy, on Apr 18 2009, 10:56 AM, said:
However, I'd have rather read the Potter Series and everything that's come of it for me, than the Malazan series, despite my love of the MBotF.
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#85
Posted 18 April 2009 - 02:35 PM
HoosierDaddy, on Apr 18 2009, 09:56 AM, said:
Lol. Couldn't make you even if I wanted to!
However, I'd have rather read the Potter Series and everything that's come of it for me, than the Malazan series, despite my love of the MBotF.
However, I'd have rather read the Potter Series and everything that's come of it for me, than the Malazan series, despite my love of the MBotF.
There is something seriously wrong with you. Medically.
As for my opinion on the series, the number of posts QuickTidal has made shouting at me about the series should tell you that. But a series with a protagonist who is a petulant vindictive STUPID asshole beyond what is expected of a teenager - in fact, one who is progressively getting younger and younger as the series goes on - with a pair of sidekicks, one of which is more retarded than he is and the other does every damn thing worth remembering; a supporting cast full of idiots and seemingly benevolent elders who could solve all their problems with literally a wave of their hand but don't because DURR HARRY HAS TO SOLVE THEM HIMSELF DESPITE NOT BEING MENTALLY EQUIPPED TO DO SO WITHOUT HELP FROM THE BADGUYS and who then turn out to be - shock horror! - NOT WHAT THEY SEEM in 'twists' a five year old could and did figure out; dumbass villains with ridiculously over-the-top plans which would never work if anyone with an ounce of intelligence or goodwill was present:
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I read the whole series, and by book 5 it had turned into something so bad I wouldn't want kids to read it. Book seven could easily have been called 'Hermione Granger and the Months-Long Camping Trip' for all Harry did besides exist. But yeah HD, that's your opinion and you're welcome to have it. Just as long as you know that it's WWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG
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#86
Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:46 PM
Sorry. There's no accounting for taste. The Malazan series is better, as I said above. In fact, many series are better: GRRM, Abercrombie, WoT, Dresden...
Despite being better, they haven't had the impact Potter has had in my life. Too many fantastic memories are intertwined with Potter for that to be the case.
Despite being better, they haven't had the impact Potter has had in my life. Too many fantastic memories are intertwined with Potter for that to be the case.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#87
Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:53 PM
Hmm, well I started reading them when I was much younger.
Finished the series for completion.
Contrary to what most people are I prefer the earlier books, by quite a lot.
The first books are obviously childrens books, and as childrens books they are good, childrens books shouldn't be too grown up.
The later books however, she tries to make it darker/more grown up.
Which I think made them worse, because as a childrens writer she is fine. However, I do not think she is really good enough to make it interesting as a more grown up book, so I feel she abandoned the childrens book, which she was good at, to try and make it more grown up, which she was not so good at.
So, the first few are good as childrens books.
But the later ones I felt tried to be grown up, and just weren't as good as many of the other grown up books around.
Finished the series for completion.
Contrary to what most people are I prefer the earlier books, by quite a lot.
The first books are obviously childrens books, and as childrens books they are good, childrens books shouldn't be too grown up.
The later books however, she tries to make it darker/more grown up.
Which I think made them worse, because as a childrens writer she is fine. However, I do not think she is really good enough to make it interesting as a more grown up book, so I feel she abandoned the childrens book, which she was good at, to try and make it more grown up, which she was not so good at.
So, the first few are good as childrens books.
But the later ones I felt tried to be grown up, and just weren't as good as many of the other grown up books around.
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#88
Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:00 PM
This being the movie thread, I recommend we move further critical discussion of Potter literature to the Other Fantasy Forum.
Eager for this movie to come out. However, the PG rating is a bit disappointing. I've heard grumbles about certain scenes and I'm hoping those grumbles are false, otherwise I'll be perturbed.
Eager for this movie to come out. However, the PG rating is a bit disappointing. I've heard grumbles about certain scenes and I'm hoping those grumbles are false, otherwise I'll be perturbed.
This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 18 April 2009 - 09:02 PM
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#89
Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:27 PM
Hermiones undisgisable tits and tight ass alone ensures that this will be at least a PG13
#90
Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:28 PM
She makes me feel like a filthy old man.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#91
Posted 19 April 2009 - 03:48 AM
You're all perverts.
And the movie looks fucking awesome. I'm Potter fan too. Ripped through the books when they came out and love the movies too. They're just plain fun.
And the movie looks fucking awesome. I'm Potter fan too. Ripped through the books when they came out and love the movies too. They're just plain fun.
#92
Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:35 PM
Illuyankas, on Apr 18 2009, 03:35 PM, said:
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Or, what was to stop Moody from changing something like Harrys toothbush into a portkey instead?!
I think the trailer is great... can't wait for the film.
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#93
Posted 15 July 2009 - 03:16 AM
Movie is tracking at 95% overall and 96% amongst top critics at Rotten Tomatoes. Got tickets for this film tomorrow night. Very, very excited.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#94
Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:43 AM
Ive read some reviews, Apparently this one is allot more character driven, less pointless action and more story driven dialogue and character development.
Malfoy comes into his own and the Weasleys play a much bigger part. All in all its not just about harry, Harmoiny and Ron anymore. Which is good.
Also... lots more Dumbledore action...
Malfoy comes into his own and the Weasleys play a much bigger part. All in all its not just about harry, Harmoiny and Ron anymore. Which is good.
Also... lots more Dumbledore action...
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Why dont they make the whole plane out of that black box stuff?
Why dont they make the whole plane out of that black box stuff?
#95
Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:49 AM
I honestly don't recall Dumbledore doing that much in the book except
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#97
Posted 15 July 2009 - 01:41 PM
I saw the movie last night at midnight. I thought it was really good. I would say they have strayed the most so far from any of the books with this one. At the same time they did try to stay true to the book where ever possible. I think they've strayed a bit from the original story line in this one in orderr to properly set up the last two. There was a lot of material to deal with in this movie and they seem to have gotten all of the important parts. At times it felt a little rushed, but again I think they were trying to touch on everything they possibly could.
You do see more of the other characters in this movie, and they've begun developing the relationships between Ron and Hermione, Harry and Ginny. Dumbledore is featured quite heavily, although I was hoping for more of the memories regarding Voldemort. Also disappointed
Anyways I don't want to spoil it for anyone who's yet to see it. I will come back and discuss it further once people begin commenting. Overall an excellent movie, not as good as the book, but then movies never are. Chances are I will probably go see it again, but I am a huge HP fan so that's not unusual for me.
You do see more of the other characters in this movie, and they've begun developing the relationships between Ron and Hermione, Harry and Ginny. Dumbledore is featured quite heavily, although I was hoping for more of the memories regarding Voldemort. Also disappointed
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We also begin to see more of professor Snape. I don't know why this was called the most violent of the movies so far, because there really wasn't that much violence. Anyways I don't want to spoil it for anyone who's yet to see it. I will come back and discuss it further once people begin commenting. Overall an excellent movie, not as good as the book, but then movies never are. Chances are I will probably go see it again, but I am a huge HP fan so that's not unusual for me.
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#98
Posted 15 July 2009 - 01:53 PM
Well of course there is more focus on Tumbledoor
Apt, liked the ending of the sixth book.
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Apt, liked the ending of the sixth book.
#99
Posted 15 July 2009 - 02:33 PM
Aptorian, on Jul 15 2009, 08:53 AM, said:
Well of course there is more focus on Tumbledoor
Apt, liked the ending of the sixth book.
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Apt, liked the ending of the sixth book.
Yes, although the
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So you will be pleased Apt
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Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable… Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.
- Martin Luther King, Jr-
The only thing one can learn from one's past mistakes is how to repeat them exactly.
-Stone Monkey-
Muffins are just ugly cupcakes!
-Zanth13-
-Bubbalicious -
Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable… Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.
- Martin Luther King, Jr-
The only thing one can learn from one's past mistakes is how to repeat them exactly.
-Stone Monkey-
Muffins are just ugly cupcakes!
-Zanth13-
#100
Posted 15 July 2009 - 03:33 PM
I read up to .... Goblet of Fire (I think) because my mum had them one summer I had to stay with her. I haven't read the rest so the movies are a bit of a guilty pleasure. I was reading an interview with Daniel Ratcliffe last week and managed to spoiler the big deaths at the end of the last few books! Awwww shucks.
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